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The 3600 was on sale for $145 just a day ago. I get the emails everyday and didn't see that at all. Frown

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re: cl16, one review says hynix
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I have this ram and I absolutely hate it. It doesnt work with AMD cpu's. I had to overclock it down just for it to be useable. I ended up buying Team TForce ram and an Intel cpu. Worst first pc build ever.
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I have this ram and I absolutely hate it. It doesnt work with AMD cpu's. I had to overclock it down just for it to be useable. I ended up buying Team TForce ram and an Intel cpu. Worst first pc build ever.
What do you mean doesn't work? I just built my first using a Ryzen 7 2700x, are there signs I should be looking for?
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What do you mean doesn't work? I just built my first using a Ryzen 7 2700x, are there signs I should be looking for?
Yes, the first sign is understanding it has little to do with the CPU.

While one can say 'RAM is not compatible with a CPU' and be factually correct, the issue probably starts with the motherboard not supporting it and issues roll down to the CPU.
First gen Ryzen systems DID have issues with RAM, but they were worked out before second gen (like the 2700X) were released.

It's about making sure the RAM is compatible with your motherboard, the easiest way to do that is look at the motherboard's Memory QVL list.

If it's not on the list, don't buy it is a good rule of thumb.
If it's on the list, it should work.

If your PC boots to Windows, it's working.
You can use CPU-Z to see what frequency (speed) it's running at, keeping in mind that in a dual channel (two slot) configuration you need to double the listed speed to know actual speed. If you're not reaching advertised speeds, first thing to do is pull the RAM and confirm you received what you purchased!

If it's not working, IE Windows is not booting - troubleshoot.
Could be a bad stick, improper installation, motherboard BIOS may need to be updated, try the other set of memory slots on the motherboard, etc.
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What do you mean doesn't work? I just built my first using a Ryzen 7 2700x, are there signs I should be looking for?
Different boards will have different issues with the timings. For example, I have an AsRock fatal1ty X370 Pro Gaming motherboard (from launch of 1st gen Ryzen) and had issues getting it to post with my 3200MHz CL16 G.Skill TridentZ [newegg.com] I ended up downclocking it to start with. A BIOS upgrade happened later that seemed to be stable for some time, but eventually something happened (maybe further BIOS updates caused issues) and I wasn't able to get my full speed. The machine would fail to post 3 times, then would choose a safer profile and boot into that.

I ended up recently using the Ryzen DRAM Calculator. Used some tutorial online, followed the recommendations, and even chose a fast RAM profile (not overclocking frequency, but definitely faster timings). It gives you all the timings to manually enter in your BIOS. After running memory tests for a while and using the system for several days without any hiccups, I feel pretty confident in the stability.
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Different boards will have different issues with the timings. For example, I have an AsRock fatal1ty X370 Pro Gaming motherboard (from launch of 1st gen Ryzen) and had issues getting it to post with my 3200MHz CL16 G.Skill TridentZ [newegg.com] I ended up downclocking it to start with. A BIOS upgrade happened later that seemed to be stable for some time, but eventually something happened (maybe further BIOS updates caused issues) and I wasn't able to get my full speed. The machine would fail to post 3 times, then would choose a safer profile and boot into that.

I ended up recently using the Ryzen DRAM Calculator. Used some tutorial online, followed the recommendations, and even chose a fast RAM profile (not overclocking frequency, but definitely faster timings). It gives you all the timings to manually enter in your BIOS. After running memory tests for a while and using the system for several days without any hiccups, I feel pretty confident in the stability.
What do you use for memory tests? I just checked my motherboards qvl list and this guy isn't listed on there, but i haven't noticed any issues for the last 3 months, maybe a random crash that's happened like 2-3 times would that be caused by the incompatibility?

The qvl list for my Aorus B450 pro WiFi mobo has the F4-3200C16Q-32GVK
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I have this ram and I absolutely hate it. It doesnt work with AMD cpu's. I had to overclock it down just for it to be useable. I ended up buying Team TForce ram and an Intel cpu. Worst first pc build ever.
i have exactly same experience as yours. any speed over 3000 of that ram cause spikes when i play lol, returned and bought a teamgroup dark za for amd and it works perfectly.
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Yes, the first sign is understanding it has little to do with the CPU.

While one can say 'RAM is not compatible with a CPU' and be factually correct, the issue probably starts with the motherboard not supporting it and issues roll down to the CPU.
First gen Ryzen systems DID have issues with RAM, but they were worked out before second gen (like the 2700X) were released.

It's about making sure the RAM is compatible with your motherboard, the easiest way to do that is look at the motherboard's Memory QVL list.

If it's not on the list, don't buy it is a good rule of thumb.
If it's on the list, it should work.

If your PC boots to Windows, it's working.
You can use CPU-Z to see what frequency (speed) it's running at, keeping in mind that in a dual channel (two slot) configuration you need to double the listed speed to know actual speed. If you're not reaching advertised speeds, first thing to do is pull the RAM and confirm you received what you purchased!

If it's not working, IE Windows is not booting - troubleshoot.
Could be a bad stick, improper installation, motherboard BIOS may need to be updated, try the other set of memory slots on the motherboard, etc.
Further, when i build Ryzen 3000 series PC's at Micro Center they always recommend G Skill. I have used their RAM 3 times. But if you have a Ryzen 1st gen dual rank sticks like these 16GB modules will not work. Ryzen 2000 series may also not like it.

If you don't buy RAM that is on the mobo QVL then go to pcpartpicker.com and find others with the same motherboard and RAM. I did that for my MSi B450 Tomahawk Max and that is has been staple for 2 months with G Skill RAM not on the QVL.

I sure do miss the days when you could bur RAM and it worked but we are getting better quality RAM with faster timings so there is more compatibility issues these days.
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that's user error, 1st and 2nd gen AM4 motherboards don't necessary do more than 2933MHz and if they do it's usually with a known list. The fact it works downclocked would be your first clue to check your motherboard specs.

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I have this ram and I absolutely hate it. It doesnt work with AMD cpu's. I had to overclock it down just for it to be useable. I ended up buying Team TForce ram and an Intel cpu. Worst first pc build ever.
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What do you use for memory tests? I just checked my motherboards qvl list and this guy isn't listed on there, but i haven't noticed any issues for the last 3 months, maybe a random crash that's happened like 2-3 times would that be caused by the incompatibility?

The qvl list for my Aorus B450 pro WiFi mobo has the F4-3200C16Q-32GVK
I use memtest86. It loads on a usb stick as a bootable drive. You can run 4 passes and call it good if you get no errors.
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This item is now back in stock! A few dollars more than before but available for $124.99 on eBay WaveApplause
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I use memtest86. It loads on a usb stick as a bootable drive. You can run 4 passes and call it good if you get no errors.
I used CPU-Z and found out that the ram are only at like 2133mhz
Every time I try activating XMP profile 1 then save and quit the mobo seems to reject the settings. When I reboot back into Bios it notifys me that "Bios has been reset" womp
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I used CPU-Z and found out that the ram are only at like 2133mhz
Every time I try activating XMP profile 1 then save and quit the mobo seems to reject the settings. When I reboot back into Bios it notifys me that "Bios has been reset" womp
Yeah it's your cpu not liking the XMP profile. 2nd Gen Ryzen's cant hit 3600mhz easily from what I read. I have the RGB version of this RAM with same timings on my 3900x with X570 board running 3600 fine.
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