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Appliances Connection [appliancesconnection.com] has a Napoleon LEX485PSS1 Lex Series 62 Inch Freestanding Liquid Propane Grill with Standard Burners, 485 sq. inches Grilling Surface Size, Warming Rack, Side Table, Jetfire Ignition System, Accu-Probe, i-GLOW Backlit, Infrared Rotisserie Burner, Porcelainized Cast Iron WAVE Grids in Stainless Steel​ on sale for $769 + Free Shipping
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just tired of cheap grills with cast iron grates, there is almost no way to keep them rust free my best was 2 year rust free with rigorous cleaning, then gave up.I wouldn't mind saving time from cleaning process and toss away cheap grill every 2-3 years but grates should at least be rust free. If anybody here could suggest a cheap grill with stainless grates that would help a lot! If I'd buy this grill I would at least expect 7-10 years of use out of it but I am also aware that it will cost me a lot of time to keep it clean and at top shape.
I hear ya, that's why I went the refurbish route. I picked up an old school Weber 2000 Platinum C and refurbished it and it's been one of the best grills I've ever cooked on. The old Webers are built like tanks and they still make parts for them. The grills are also cheap, sometimes you can get them for free...all you have to do is put some work into it to make it shiny and clean again. As far as stainless grates, there are a lot on amazon and on Ebay, there's a person on Ebay that fabricates the Weber bars and grates from 304 grade stainless steel so it'll pretty much outlast the life of the grill. Check out tvwbb.com if you're interested in going the rehab route.
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For stainless grates look on ebay for us fabricators, and check progrates.com they have them for just about any size. For example when i replaced my flavorizer bars i bought off ebay from a fabricator selling them, they were cheaper than webers but were 304 stainless and thicker gauge.

Yeah i like the weight and cooking of cast iron but really gotta keep em seasoned top to bottom, it's defiantly a maintenance item otherwise 100 bucks every few years or grill on the rust. Stainless 304 grates should last you a long long time (mine are original from 07) i've removed them twice and used a low abrasive flap disk on drill or angle grinder to clean them up. No idea on cost...that 304 stuff is expensive but with grates you pretty much need that or replace every few years or more maintenance.

But yeah that's an idea too, ok grill with decent heat, upgrade the grates, some independent side burner induction, smoker on the patio, aside from an infrared burner not sure what would be missing from a setup like that.
Yah, on Ebay there's a seller named RCplanebuyer and he fabricates Weber grates and bars from 304 grade stainless steel and I'm pretty sure they'll be the last sets I'll ever have to purchase. As far as cleaning them, I usually just scrape off the gunk with a scraper but if I want to make them shiny again I usually clean them with Member's Mark oven and grill cleaner.
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Yah, on Ebay there's a seller named RCplanebuyer and he fabricates Weber grates and bars from 304 grade stainless steel and I'm pretty sure they'll be the last sets I'll ever have to purchase. As far as cleaning them, I usually just scrape off the gunk with a scraper but if I want to make them shiny again I usually clean them with Member's Mark oven and grill cleaner.
Yep that's who i got my flavorizer bars from rcplanebuyer, great 304 bars. High temps and 430...not going to last. 304 will last a good long while, the burners and bars take the brunt.

Nice on ya for the 2000 platinum! You get it. familiar with tvwbb too. I've been looking to pick one of those 2000 series platinum or summits up for many years to refurb for a long time, missed out a few of those several times and i kick myself for it.. That was my original choice when i ran into this summit many years ago, getting read to clean this one up the second time but i've been looking for one of those again ..prefer that style...especially external tanks. When you get into a lot of burners, and use it frequently that open turn off gas, close, lift tank out, in gets old and it's easier to manually check the weight.

that napoleon with a cast aluminum cookbox aint cheap but it's a good compromise looks like. for those without the will or way...it's like the older webers with cast alum cookbox.

To refurb the grill and bars, I use an angle grinder with the paint strip discs , and drill with paint strip flat bits, not to aggressive it's for removing paint. I cleaned the original bars up on this and got many many years out of them before i switch to rcplanebuyers, still on the original grates.

All the extra features...lots of ways to skin that cat without it being built into the grill.




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Just another tidbit i thought of.

Porcelain cookbox area is long lasting (this is what webers have, there issues will be steel frames after 10 years or less if you abuse it). But if you clean it like you're scraping the grill you're gonna have issues. You can't go willy nilly with scraping the heck out of the thing which is what 9/10 people are gonna do. Cleaners are ok..your home oven is porcelain coated but i err on caution and use steam+citrus cleaner. But it will take some abuse for sure in terms of maintance, just don't get our your wire wheel or paint scraper and gouge the living crap out of it. I deep clean mine normally with a very hard plastic scraper, not metal and i do it's a putty knicfe with corners sanded off and dulled down any really baked on stuff i elbow grease it off scrub pads, steamer sometimes , sometimes really high grit sand paper in really bad spots,and citrus cleaner.

Now a 304 cookbox, you can let it ride too but don't let high acidity sauces sit for year it will etch, easy to clean. Can abuse it though for sure.

The cast aluminum cookboxes. You can scrap the living crap out of the things and let stuff sit there forever and really abuse the heck out of it, its why the ones you see in public parks outdoors after 30 years...are still there and the old weber gassers too.

Frames are another mater, unless you have 304 frame it's gonna get some corrosion, paint peel, powder coat peel ..don't think they're typically powder coated though, no matter what brand, that's gonna happen. how much depends on how much you abuse it, if you touchup,etc (most aren't). some buy the newer webers stick it out in the rain, or put some vinyl cover on it, never clean put a coat of wax on it. Yeah some paint peels off in few years. Easy to sand and touch up on your normal black frame old style. Not so much with a cherry moca whatever color =P those grills should be lasting longer but i'll bet the hood, cookboxes ,etc are still fine if not abused which is why that genesis II line is a good bet too is my guess.

My summit had some corrosion here and there on painted panels as previous owner had it in the rain and i got it a few years old, still does have some corrosion, gets a bit worse here and there after 13 years, i clean and spray wax it every so often, it's not out in the rain, but high humidity environment. If i abused the heck out of it it would be a rust bucket frame, with good stainless and rest of the grill.





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Yep that's who i got my flavorizer bars from rcplanebuyer, great 304 bars. High temps and 430...not going to last. 304 will last a good long while, the burners and bars take the brunt.

Nice on ya for the 2000 platinum! You get it. familiar with tvwbb too. I've been looking to pick one of those 2000 series platinum or summits up for many years to refurb for a long time, missed out a few of those several times and i kick myself for it.. That was my original choice when i ran into this summit many years ago, getting read to clean this one up the second time but i've been looking for one of those again ..prefer that style...especially external tanks. When you get into a lot of burners, and use it frequently that open turn off gas, close, lift tank out, in gets old and it's easier to manually check the weight.

that napoleon with a cast aluminum cookbox aint cheap but it's a good compromise looks like. for those without the will or way...it's like the older webers with cast alum cookbox.

To refurb the grill and bars, I use an angle grinder with the paint strip discs , and drill with paint strip flat bits, not to aggressive it's for removing paint. I cleaned the original bars up on this and got many many years out of them before i switch to rcplanebuyers, still on the original grates.

All the extra features...lots of ways to skin that cat without it being built into the grill.
Yah, I also have an 05 Platinum C that I converted to an open cart because Weber skimped on the cabinet for that grill. The frame is made of stainless steel (304 I believe) but they used cheap steel on the cabinet parts and they rusted out so I just converted it to an open cart. So not too bad for a $50 grill when I bought it.
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Yah, I also have an 05 Platinum C that I converted to an open cart because Weber skimped on the cabinet for that grill. The frame is made of stainless steel (304 I believe) but they used cheap steel on the cabinet parts and they rusted out so I just converted it to an open cart. So not too bad for a $50 grill when I bought it.I ha

I had a genesis 3 burner for 10 years i picked up for 150 on some local store closing sale ages ago(i think they were 250-350 or so back then). After 10 years doing nothing except frame touchups, it had been needing burners for a few years, i still got 50 bucks for it (couldn't believe it). Was looking for older platinum/summit and happened to run across this one couple years old at the time for 300-350 have had it probably 10 yrs or so. so about 300-400 for 23 years of grilling...lol not bad.
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I had a genesis 3 burner for 10 years i picked up for 150 on some local store closing sale ages ago(i think they were 250-350 or so back then). After 10 years doing nothing except frame touchups, it had been needing burners for a few years, i still got 50 bucks for it (couldn't believe it). Was looking for older platinum/summit and happened to run across this one couple years old at the time for 300-350 have had it probably 10 yrs or so. so about 300-400 for 23 years of grilling...lol not bad.
Yah, they don't build the Webers like they used to nowadays.
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