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AmpliFi ALIEN Router BACK IN STOCK $379

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Just got email reminding from AmpliFi

This router keeps out of stock, now it's back. I am always waiting for this. It's also no tax and free ground shipping depending on your location.

Features:
Wi-Fi 6 performance
5 GHz 8x8 Wi-Fi 6 radio (Max speed 4804 Mbps)
2.4 GHz 4x4 Wi-Fi 6 radio (Max speed 1148 Mbps)
5 GHz 4x4 Wi-Fi 5 radio (Max speed 1733 Mbps)
4-Port Gigabit Ethernet switch
Touchscreen display
Includes AmpliFi Teleport configuration-free VPN solution
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I was waiting for this router to be in stock, but now I question myself whether I should get the Asus ac86u and potentially another cheaper Asus router for aimesh (wired backhaul) to cover 3500 sq ft home. So far I have tried Google WiFi, amplifi hd, and eero and none of them provided stable connections and coverage needed. If I were to get this I might end up getting another one which would cost over $700 for both routers. Asus routers are cheaper and allow more flexibility with mix and match. I welcome advise and guidance.
Would be a waste of money, and if money is no problem why waste your money on this when you can get the ASUS RT-AX89X AX6000 which is superior by leaps and bounds for another $70.

My personal and professional opinion, if you have a system that works currently or needs minor fixes, spend as little as possible to do the job and wait on 6E and wave 2 to roll out EOY/ENY.
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More importantly no 160MHz support and no dedicated backhaul.
Not exactly sure how the Qualcomm radio works but apparently its setup more like a dual 4x4 rather than a true 8x8 internally. Kinda weird not to support 160mhz but I guess the specs get rather messy. Both Asus and Netgear market the qualcomm 12 stream design as AX6000 when its more than capable of competing with broadcom AX11000 solutions. At least the price reflects this when it comes to 89x and RAX120.

Specs might be misleading internally unless half the radios shut off for 160mhz mode (which is what I assume is going on with ASUS and Netgear models)


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As for comparing to other routers, the AX88U way cheaper and outperforms this, as well as supports 160Mhz. The AX11000 which is currently hard to find for a good price cause of stock levels should be under $400 vastly out performs this includes a 2.5 port and has 160Mhz. Then we have supposedly the best wifi 6 router out there the Asus AX89X has all the ports, bands, and then some and under $450. In most cases might save you money if your range with the AmpliFi Alien is not adequate and a second one is needed.
I wouldn't say AX88u is way cheaper. Was recently sold out at 350 MSRP for the longest time, but the average sale price was around 299 back in dec with an all time low of 250 on amazon.

Qualcomm wifi6 chips are better in terms of throughput apparently at least in terms of the only testing i've seen via Small net builder, though the broadcom stuff isn't terrible (as of may 2020) and works ok from my experience. I just didn't see the benefit when I owned a weaker 58u for a week which is a 4x4 chip limited to 2x transfer 4x receive.

I would think the issue with the amplifi would be lack of software refinement and actual antenna design. It is cool that it has a 3rd AC band. I think that adds value personally, especially when you look at the price points.

The hardware in the amplfi is competing with the RAX120/89x @ $450-500 and adding an additional AC 4x4 chip which those two models don't have. Pretty cool, though not sure how it works in practice.
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Would be a waste of money, and if money is no problem why waste your money on this when you can get the ASUS RT-AX89X AX6000 which is superior by leaps and bounds for another $70.

My personal and professional opinion, if you have a system that works currently or needs minor fixes, spend as little as possible to do the job and wait on 6E and wave 2 to roll out EOY/ENY.
"you can get the Asus RT-AX89X". Yeah not really.
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"you can get the Asus RT-AX89X". Yeah not really.
Brand new gear is usually in short supply and with the virus it has made it even more. That being said I have seen it come into stock on newegg a few times before going to back order status. Can still be back ordered as of now with a wait time of 3-4 weeks.
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Brand new gear is usually in short supply and with the virus it has made it even more. That being said I have seen it come into stock on newegg a few times before going to back order status. Can still be back ordered as of now with a wait time of 3-4 weeks.
The entire point of this thread is to point out "brand new gear" that actually is in stock. So it's kind of ironic when someone comes in hot recommending alternative products that aren't.
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The entire point of this thread is to point out "brand new gear" that actually is in stock. So it's kind of ironic when someone comes in hot recommending alternative products that aren't.
AX88U I recommended too and its in stock right now! You do know you have to read the rest of the posts before trying to focus on one thing. Clearly nothing in his question or my reply to his question said it NEEDED TO BE NOW! So yeah.....

Also back order with a 2-3 week wait time, is just as good as in stock for most people cause your guaranteed to get it. Unless your in real dire straights then you will be going to an electronics store anyway to get something same day.
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AX88U I recommended too and its in stock right now! You do know you have to read the rest of the posts before trying to focus on one thing. Clearly nothing in his question or my reply to his question said it NEEDED TO BE NOW! So yeah.....

Also back order with a 2-3 week wait time, is just as good as in stock for most people cause your guaranteed to get it. Unless your in real dire straights then you will be going to an electronics store anyway to get something same day.
Well, thanks to this exercise in asking you to use accurate language, you've made the caveats that you should have to begin with.

BTW, I ordered the Alien and already have shipment confirmation. Didn't have to wait 2-3 weeks (or more) or go to a B&M. Crazy.
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Well, thanks to this exercise in asking you to use accurate language, you've made the caveats that you should have to begin with.

BTW, I ordered the Alien and already have shipment confirmation. Didn't have to wait 2-3 weeks (or more) or go to a B&M. Crazy.
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This may not be the fastest router with all the bells and whistles at this price point. However reading as much as I could from different sources, it distilled down to these selling points for me.

Excellent stability
Excellent coverage, one of the best among stand alone routers.
Pretty solid hardware from one of the best networking companies.
Mostly plug and play with decent settings options for most users.

So unless you are a power user who love tweaking, digging into and diving into deep settings to squeeze out the best performance, I think this one is a good choice. Yes kinda expensive. But looks really cool and seems to work without much fuss. And that comes at a cost.

Only time will tell if the above is true, once I get my hands on mine.
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Just in case it helps anyone... I had to return this router today.

Design is BEAUTIFUL (even better than photos) and speed is great, but functionality is just way too basic for my needs (power user).

Don't remember I've actually seen any router before that doesn't even allow you to change IP address of router itself or configure subnet mask. I can imagine this works great for people with simple needs, but for that price point, I was expecting a lot more.
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This may not be the fastest router with all the bells and whistles at this price point. However reading as much as I could from different sources, it distilled down to these selling points for me.

Excellent stability
Excellent coverage, one of the best among stand alone routers.
Pretty solid hardware from one of the best networking companies.
Mostly plug and play with decent settings options for most users.

So unless you are a power user who love tweaking, digging into and diving into deep settings to squeeze out the best performance, I think this one is a good choice. Yes kinda expensive. But looks really cool and seems to work without much fuss. And that comes at a cost.

Only time will tell if the above is true, once I get my hands on mine.
I would strongly disagree with decent settings options for most users. Configuration options are extremely limited.
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Just in case it helps anyone... I had to return this router today.

Design is BEAUTIFUL (even better than photos) and speed is great, but functionality is just way too basic for my needs (power user).

Don't remember I've actually seen any router before that doesn't even allow you to change IP address of router itself or configure subnet mask. I can imagine this works great for people with simple needs, but for that price point, I was expecting a lot more.
This is inaccurate, you absolutely can change the routers IP address.
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Brand new gear is usually in short supply and with the virus it has made it even more. That being said I have seen it come into stock on newegg a few times before going to back order status. Can still be back ordered as of now with a wait time of 3-4 weeks.
Ummm yeah. Not. I've been waiting for 4 weeks and it said 3 days when I ordered. You can't get it anywhere.
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Ummm yeah. Not. I've been waiting for 4 weeks and it said 3 days when I ordered. You can't get it anywhere.
Like I said they were in stock when I looked, then it switched to backorder. People must have bought out their inventory and now supply chain issues.

If you dont mind open box they have an open box you can order right now for a huge discount $360 + $5 shipping. I am actually very tempted myself to buy it, if it wasnt for the fact that any of this current wifi 6 gear is going to get blown away by early next year so I dont want to shell out the big dough on stuff that will not be upgraded to 6E/W2 standards.

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rt-ax...lsrc=aw.ds

At almost double the performance and all the bells and whistles, which the alien has very little of, for cheaper looks like a very good pick up, as long as there is nothing wrong with the router.

The Dong gentleman mentioned here and his site list it as the best and most stable router out, when he did his long stress test on it no issues.
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I trust Dong erryday

curious how this would compare to my eeros
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