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This projector features a HDR10/HGL compatibility to produce a wide color gamut w/ compatible source content/equipment. Outputs 3000 lumens and has a 100,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio. Two HDMI inputs for all your devices from gaming, Blu-Ray player, to cable & more. Offer valid while promotion last - Discombobulated

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I've been looking at this for awhile.

Finally pulled the trigger. $1400 is the cheapest price I've seen.

https://www.amazon.com/Epson-Cine...ics&sr=1-1

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Last Edited by SkillfulThread2917 June 4, 2020 at 10:26 AM
This has fake 4K, AKA Pixel Shift.

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So much misinformation here it's amazing. Let me clear up some of these things for some of you guys:

The Basics

There are two current "pixel shifting" technologies in the sub $3K price range (will exclude the .67" DLP since everyone is going with the .47" one now)

The first one is XPR from DLP projectors. You get these from BenQ, Optoma, Viewsonic etc. This takes 2 million mirrors and and they "wobulate" or shift 4x to put 8 million addressable pixels on screen. The only thing that makes this even an iota of difference from a "true" 4K image like the high end Sony models is the bigger pixel density. But observing from 8' or more back you're not going to be able to tell the difference. This is "native" because you have 8 million observable different pixels on the screen when you look. Anyone who says they don't want DLP "pixel shift" but would rather "native' has no idea what they're talking about and I guarantee wouldn't pass a blind test on sharpness. It's 4K, let's be real. The Sony's real advantage is color accuracy, brightness, black level contrast etc, all make it look more dynamic. But it's going to cost 5x to 8x more.

The second is LCD "eshift" which currently only Epson does (JVC has something similar but those models are too high end for this price range). This takes 2 million pixels and thru some software magic and shifting the panels you get 4 million pixels on the screen, but they are not individually addressable. This means you're really getting a 2K image. It's sharper than 1080p but not as sharp as the DLP models in the same price range.

So according to this you would think DLP is the clear winner over Epson, correct? Not necessarily.

Epson uses 3 LCD panels (one per color), whereas DLP uses one light source with a color wheel that spins multiple times per second. This means that you get higher color brightness and accuracy with the 3800 and 5050UB than you would with any DLP, and you get much better blacks and better contrast. Some say that the higher contrast and better blacks of the Epson models give it the appearance of clarity over DLP, but I disagree. However DLP handles motion better. Espon also cannot do Frame Interpolation (motion blur handling by adding in frames) at "4K" - only at 2K. The DLP models can.

DLP also has what a very few people see called RBE (rainbow effect) because it has one chip with a color wheel, in high contrast scenes the bright object may have a little rainbow trail. The newer models have really been able to get away from that where it doesn't exist or isn't noticeable.

So if you want a brighter, punchier image with better HDR, and better color accuracy, then the Epson is king.
If you want a sharper picture with better motion handling then you go with DLP.

HDR

As has been pointed out, with a huge image the nits output is not enough for "true HDR" on these, but projectors do what's called "tone mapping" where they take the HDR information and apply various color highlights and give the appearance of HDR. I personally notice a difference and so I call it HDR fof functionality. Bottom line is movies and games (Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last of Us, Gears 5 etc) look much better in 4K HDR than they do with it off, whatever magic or software they use. Because the Epson has better color brightness than DLP, I say it has the edge here.

3D

Because DLP has only one chip, there is no "crosstalk" or "ghosting" that some LCD and LCOS (JVC) models have, where the image converages on itself. But the 3800 and 5050UB do very well and don't really ghost either, and have higher color brightness so I think give a better 3D image.

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The Epson 3800 and 5050UB are similar in nature, and will give a similar brightness experience. But the 5050UB has a much better lens, has electronic lens memory, has more color gamut coverage (better/more colors), and much better blacks and contrast. But you have to have a very light controlled room (no light) and non-white walls ot take full advantage. If you have any ambient light the 5050UB won't look much better than the 3800. I prefer the 3800 for cost and because during football season I have a lot of ambient light.

The DLP current kings in my opinion are the BenQ HT3550 and TK800. I have tried the Optoma UHD52ALV which is nice but the tone mapping isn't as good as the TK850.. The Optoma UHD52X has a cool gimmick of 240hz refresh rate and lower lag (15ms to 30ms) than the TK2550 and TK850 (50ms to 80ms on those), but I think it suffers worse colors which was a deal breaker for me.

The Benq 3550 has an RGBRGB color wheel (all colors, no clear or white slice) meaning richer colors but overall not as bright peak white image as the TK850 which has RGBW (a little weirder actually but that works for now) color wheel. You get higher peak whites, and birghter overall image, but color saturation and brightness can be a bit lower.

The BenQ models both have a dynamic iris which means nicer black levels when applied. I prefer the TK850 for the punchier image and overall brightness boost since I love 3D and have a bigger screen, I don't mind the slightly duller colors, honestly it didn't look that different to me than the 3550 unless you really look for it in skin tones etc.

Gaming

Epson ha much lower latency than all the DLPs, but the pixels take longer to "refresh" on LCD so you notice more blur on FPS type competitive games. my KDR on Warzone is about the same using the BenQ TK850, optoma UHD50X, and the Epson 3800, but then again I am not a Pro either.

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Having said all of that, taking everything into full consideration. I think it's a virtual tie beteween the TK850 and the Epson 3800. My keeper is the Epson 3800 because I value overall brightness, contrast, and black levels over a bump in sharpness and better motion that you get with DLP, but you go TK850 or 3800 those are the best bangs for the buck in my opinion.
It uses pixel shifting technology, I've done a lot of research on these and from the various in depth reviews I've read, like the one at projectorcentral, it seems most people cannot distinguish the difference between this "faux 4k" and an actual 4K projector. True 4K will run you around $3,000 or so minimum I do believe. I have been shopping for awhile and it came down to this or the Epson 4010. The 4010 runs $1,999 and IMO doesn't offer enough of an upgrade over this 3800 to be considered.
Nope....it is 2 x 1080p. Basically it is a 2k projector that can downconvert 4k content.

But is much better than a 1080p projector.

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Tempting price. Is this true 4K?
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Tempting price. Is this true 4K?
"4K PRO-UHD (1) Projection technology — a new type of 4K home theater experience, utilizing advanced technologies for resolution Enhancement, color and image processing"

I interpreted this as not true 4k
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Faux 4k at this price point I'm assuming. That said, I'm told it works quite well.
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Tempting price. Is this true 4K?
Nope....it is 2 x 1080p. Basically it is a 2k projector that can downconvert 4k content.

But is much better than a 1080p projector.
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Tempting price. Is this true 4K?
It uses pixel shifting technology, I've done a lot of research on these and from the various in depth reviews I've read, like the one at projectorcentral, it seems most people cannot distinguish the difference between this "faux 4k" and an actual 4K projector. True 4K will run you around $3,000 or so minimum I do believe. I have been shopping for awhile and it came down to this or the Epson 4010. The 4010 runs $1,999 and IMO doesn't offer enough of an upgrade over this 3800 to be considered.
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If you guys remember TVs from the early 2000s, the faux 4k projectors remind me of the EDTVs (enhanced definition TVs) from that time period.

True HDTVs were still prohibitively expensive at that time so some people opted for EDTVs to have a better experience than traditional standard definition tube TVs.
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Quick question here - the comparison to other Epson projectors on the Amazon page lists this projector as HDMI 1.4. But I also see at this marketing material states full HDMI 2.0 support...can it be both? Or is one of them mislabeled?
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Quick question here - the comparison to other Epson projectors on the Amazon page lists this projector as HDMI 1.4. But I also see at this marketing material states full HDMI 2.0 support...can it be both? Or is one of them mislabeled?
In order to do 4k/60 it has to be 2.0 also I believe if you look at the photos you can see HDMI 2.0 printed right above the ports
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Between the good brightness, decent input lag, and surprising amount of lens shift, I pulled the trigger. I've been waiting for a good 4k projector to fall below $1500. I wasn't aware of this model, but I was really happy with an Epson I used to have.
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Optoma UHD50 vs this?
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In order to do 4k/60 it has to be 2.0 also I believe if you look at the photos you can see HDMI 2.0 printed right above the ports
thank you for the clarification! You're right...i double checked the Epson website and it confirmed the HDMI specs as 2.0
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Optoma UHD50 vs this?
I believe the 3 chip LCD projectors like this Epson typically have a better contrast then DLP projectors and don't have the rainbow effect some users complain about - that's what I've read in reviews anyway... plus the low latency of this unit would be more comparable to the optoma uhd50x, which is still $200 more as far as I can tell
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