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Appliances Connection [appliancesconnection.com] has a Coyote C2SL30NGFS30 Inch Freestanding Natural Gas Grill with Standard Burners, Rotisserie, 700 sq. inch Grilling Surface Size, Warming Rack, Infinity Burners™ in Stainless Steel​ on sale for $2499.00 + Free Shipping (Get a 5% Appliances Connection Gift Card when using 12 months financing for this purchase)
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Thank you for sharing. I have been eyeing the Weber Genesis II S-435 that retails for $1,249.00. I have heard of Coyote grills, but am not too familiar with the brand. If anyone with an opinion about Coyote who wants to educate or insult me on my lack of knowledge, feel free to do it.

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Great deal! Bought one for my deck and one for my patio!
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I thought I was doing good with my $1k Weber. Just reminds me that I need to get rich.
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Great deal! Bought one for my deck and one for my patio!

Sure you did 🤣😂😅
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Sure you did 🤣😂😅
Lol... in for 4 myself: one for front yard, one for back yard, and 2 spares just in case.
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Thank you for sharing. I have been eyeing the Weber Genesis II S-435 that retails for $1,249.00. I have heard of Coyote grills, but am not too familiar with the brand. If anyone with an opinion about Coyote who wants to educate or insult me on my lack of knowledge, feel free to do it.

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Tofu Vic
If you can live with less grilling area, Costco has the S-345 for $950 in store.

https://www.costco.com/weber-gene...23600.html
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If you can live with less grilling area, Costco has the S-345 for $950 in store.

https://www.costco.com/weber-gene...23600.html
Thanks for sharing the information and link. I saw the Costco version, but highly prefer the 646 square inches of primary cooking area compared to the 513 square inches of the Costco version.

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304 stainless is why for the curious including frame ('d guess welded too? so no mositure between attachment points). That's why the price and yeah it will last couple decades even with serious abuse it should last many many many years or be easily salvageable after such time with a refresh.

S-435 is a good choice porcelain enamel cookbox, or go for one with cast aluminum cookbox like weber used to have (noticed napoleon as a few). If my summit was on it's last legs after 13-14 years which it's not that would be how i'd go. my porcelain cookbox 13 years yeah it would be junk in 5-8 yrs if i took metal scrapers to the cookbox like most do (if they even clean them at all). You'll still have to maintain touchup frame (wax goes a long way, vented breathable cover, out of the rain goes a long long way) but with care 10+ year grill. better yet buy a used weber and refresh it. Cast aluminum cookbox is practically lifetime but you'll still have to keep frame up, touch up repaint,etc in 10 -15 years give or take depending on care, location,etc.

If you do 0 maintance, don't care for anything buy cheap and replace often because only a full 304 cookbox (or aluminum cookbox) and 304 frame can take that abuse and why buy something pretty if you're not going to maintain it...pointless. or want features and pretty the 7-800 dollar 430 stainnless grills, you'll get lots of (needed really?) features, lot of burners (how much big a group do you cook for?) good looks for awhile but cookboxes without lots of maintenance will still rust out as 430 can't take the heat. good gauge porcelain can but don't go scraping the crap out of it with a metal scraper or let acidic sauces sit for ages..a lot depends how you cook. cast aluminum cookbox you can abuse the crap out of...good for low maintenance people...best for abuse that's why the ones in your park are still there after 20 years...you'll still have to keep frames up after number of years, replace burners, any grates (304 always better for mainteance and lifespan). cookboxes should have removable large drip tray bottom.

If you want features instead of longevity, no shortage of options but unless spending thousands don't expect 10+ years with no maintenance..amount of mainteance depending on the grill construction.

If you can cut some features and duplicate them other ways (sear other ways), smoke bombs or smoker instead of built in smokers which don't work that well, there's lots of longer life grills out there. Like anything it's features , lifespan and $ each at a different level.









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Thank you for sharing. I have been eyeing the Weber Genesis II S-435 that retails for $1,249.00. I have heard of Coyote grills, but am not too familiar with the brand. If anyone with an opinion about Coyote who wants to educate or insult me on my lack of knowledge, feel free to do it.

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Tofu Vic, did u see this deal https://www.appliancesconnection....5pss1.html

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Tofu Vic, did u see this deal https://www.appliancesconnection....5pss1.html

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Hey, DrClaw. I did see that yesterday, but the primary cooking area of only 485 square inches is a bit small for me; I want at least 600 square inches, and the Genesis II S-435 has 646 square inches.

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304 stainless is why for the curious including frame ('d guess welded too? so no mositure between attachment points). That's why the price and yeah it will last couple decades even with serious abuse it should last many many many years or be easily salvageable after such time with a refresh.

S-435 is a good choice porcelain enamel cookbox, or go for one with cast aluminum cookbox like weber used to have (noticed napoleon as a few). If my summit was on it's last legs after 13-14 years which it's not that would be how i'd go. my porcelain cookbox 13 years yeah it would be junk in 5-8 yrs if i took metal scrapers to the cookbox like most do (if they even clean them at all). You'll still have to maintain touchup frame (wax goes a long way, vented breathable cover, out of the rain goes a long long way) but with care 10+ year grill. better yet buy a used weber and refresh it. Cast aluminum cookbox is practically lifetime but you'll still have to keep frame up, touch up repaint,etc in 10 -15 years give or take depending on care, location,etc.

If you do 0 maintance, don't care for anything buy cheap and replace often because only a full 304 cookbox (or aluminum cookbox) and 304 frame can take that abuse and why buy something pretty if you're not going to maintain it...pointless. or want features and pretty the 7-800 dollar 430 stainnless grills, you'll get lots of (needed really?) features, lot of burners (how much big a group do you cook for?) good looks for awhile but cookboxes without lots of maintenance will still rust out as 430 can't take the heat. good gauge porcelain can but don't go scraping the crap out of it with a metal scraper or let acidic sauces sit for ages..a lot depends how you cook. cast aluminum cookbox you can abuse the crap out of...good for low maintenance people...best for abuse that's why the ones in your park are still there after 20 years...you'll still have to keep frames up after number of years, replace burners, any grates (304 always better for mainteance and lifespan). cookboxes should have removable large drip tray bottom.

If you want features instead of longevity, no shortage of options but unless spending thousands don't expect 10+ years with no maintenance..amount of mainteance depending on the grill construction.

If you can cut some features and duplicate them other ways (sear other ways), smoke bombs or smoker instead of built in smokers which don't work that well, there's lots of longer life grills out there. Like anything it's features , lifespan and $ each at a different level.
Great information. Based on your info it sounds like Im more interested in cast aluminum cookbox. I'd take longevity and robustness over more functions. Do you know what Napoleon grills offer that? Does this one. https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/14128469

you mentioned you like the s-435, that has a porcelain cookbox and requires some care to last 10 yrs+ , is that correct?

I checked the specs but didn't see any mention.
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[quote="DrClaw;138064409"]Great information. Based on your info it sounds like Im more interested in cast aluminum cookbox. I'd take longevity and robustness over more functions. Do you know what Napoleon grills offer that? Does this one. https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/14128469


it comes down to:
fire/cookbox
frame
how grill is stored
what's cooked
your propensity for maintenance
features of course

napoleon rogue is cast aluminum cook/firebox, weber has those still too, generally those seem to have less features and smaller grilling surface depending on cost i assume the large alum casting cost is the reason.

that one you link i can't tell looks to be porcelain box or maybe some stainless sides with porcelain main drip areas?, i'd wonder about stainless grade there but at a glance looks ok constructed check warranties normally that seems to be a good indicator, subtract some years if you're not OCD about grill cleaning.

s-435 looks good i can't remember if grates were 304 or what but those can be bought from online fabricators (ebay) .

aluminum cookbox you can abuse crap out of it, let stuff sit flame up flare up, scrape it with a metal scrapers, brushes, caustic chems to clean it's industructable. even let water collect in it, best for outside and low or harsh maintance, but yeah smaller cooking areas, less features typically.

porcelain enamel of good gauge last easily 10+ year as long as you tone down aggressive cleaning, no metal scrapers or brushes or caustic heavy cleaners. i use plastic scraper, light scrub pad, citrus cleaner and sometimes barkeeps friend and very high grit sand paper at times for crusty stuff no heavy metal scraping. Less good for outside as will have seams for water to collect. i use mine every other day if not daily for 14 years covered patio i roll out, cookbox is fine... i'm not heavy grease sauce griller but do every so often weekends and such rest of week is normally low fat stuff.

304 box or 304 drip pans i don't know how you could abuse those without trying extremely hard, don't let sauces sit for ages though the 304 will be fine but will etch a little. cleans up really easy. anything less will likely be a wear item too. my 304 (large) drip tray after i clean it still looks new.

430 box can't take the heat needs lots of regular maintenance inside and will rust out nexgrill etc the cheap stainless ones all general like that....just look inside ones left at curbs.

burners, drip bars, typically a metal drip bar space inside , grate depending on if it's 304 are not is all replace items. grates can be bought for just about anything in 304.

Frames, all unless like the OP 304 stainless one will be a YMMV thing depending on storage, outside/covered or not...just how it is even in a 1k+ grill. Don't store outside in rain if possible, breathable cover if do (even then corrosion starts at bottom). Touch up when needed, put some wax on it, it helps keep water moisture from sitting.

so even if you got indestrucable cookbox, you still have a frame which will last 10 years+ but yeah may not look prettiest the whole time without touchup.

Stainless enclosures for looks only and i've yet to go over to someone's place and see one clean .02c, i clean my summit it looks like a mess in a few grillings. Unless it's 304 panels + frame you'll corrode at sharp edges of panels (enclosed so they gotta vent it) and where panels meet frame. 430 stainless is ok for outside but mate with painted frame and you have moisture points. lifting tank in and out gets old, and rarely is inside of these cleaned. An open breathable frame is less maintenance, less chance for moisture to collect. FLat storage areas of course but normally it starts at sharp corners where paint, powder coat is thin. but all frames outside a 304 will get some corrosion here and there. That said a clean stainless enclosure with corrosion on frame bottom, looks better than an open frame with corrosion =) but less easy to clean, and paint back up.

that s-435 looks good to me. Large cooking area, 304 weber burners, btu, no features i rarely use or can't duplicate other ways, open frame, porcelain box, porcelain top last ages(don't go all nuts cleaning it either) large removable drip pan for regular cleaning (sooner the better after sauces). i like the looks of that open frame. I don't need one but i remember seeing it in the store

So just saying 2500 like this op one is costly, but the 304 box, frame + welded is why it's a very long life easy to maintain, takes a lot of abuse grill from the looks of it.
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Great information. Based on your info it sounds like Im more interested in cast aluminum cookbox. I'd take longevity and robustness over more functions. Do you know what Napoleon grills offer that? Does this one. https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/14128469

you mentioned you like the s-435, that has a porcelain cookbox and requires some care to last 10 yrs+ , is that correct?

I checked the specs but didn't see any mention.
I've been checking out grills lately and found Broilmaster and Phoenix grills offer aluminum cook boxes at a reasonable price point. These are also made in USA and seem to be built to last a long time. Unlike so many imported grills that look good upfront but by looking close at build quality so can tell they wont hold up after a few years.
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Great information. Based on your info it sounds like Im more interested in cast aluminum cookbox. I'd take longevity and robustness over more functions. Do you know what Napoleon grills offer that? Does this one. https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/14128469


it comes down to:
fire/cookbox
frame
how grill is stored
what's cooked
your propensity for maintenance
features of course

napoleon rogue is cast aluminum cook/firebox, weber has those still too, generally those seem to have less features and smaller grilling surface depending on cost i assume the large alum casting cost is the reason.

that one you link i can't tell looks to be porcelain box or maybe some stainless sides with porcelain main drip areas?, i'd wonder about stainless grade there but at a glance looks ok constructed check warranties normally that seems to be a good indicator, subtract some years if you're not OCD about grill cleaning.

s-435 looks good i can't remember if grates were 304 or what but those can be bought from online fabricators (ebay) .

aluminum cookbox you can abuse crap out of it, let stuff sit flame up flare up, scrape it with a metal scrapers, brushes, caustic chems to clean it's industructable. even let water collect in it, best for outside and low or harsh maintance, but yeah smaller cooking areas, less features typically.

porcelain enamel of good gauge last easily 10+ year as long as you tone down aggressive cleaning, no metal scrapers or brushes or caustic heavy cleaners. i use plastic scraper, light scrub pad, citrus cleaner and sometimes barkeeps friend and very high grit sand paper at times for crusty stuff no heavy metal scraping. Less good for outside as will have seams for water to collect. i use mine every other day if not daily for 14 years covered patio i roll out, cookbox is fine... i'm not heavy grease sauce griller but do every so often weekends and such rest of week is normally low fat stuff.

304 box or 304 drip pans i don't know how you could abuse those without trying extremely hard, don't let sauces sit for ages though the 304 will be fine but will etch a little. cleans up really easy. anything less will likely be a wear item too. my 304 (large) drip tray after i clean it still looks new.

430 box can't take the heat needs lots of regular maintenance inside and will rust out nexgrill etc the cheap stainless ones all general like that....just look inside ones left at curbs.

burners, drip bars, typically a metal drip bar space inside , grate depending on if it's 304 are not is all replace items. grates can be bought for just about anything in 304.

Frames, all unless like the OP 304 stainless one will be a YMMV thing depending on storage, outside/covered or not...just how it is even in a 1k+ grill. Don't store outside in rain if possible, breathable cover if do (even then corrosion starts at bottom). Touch up when needed, put some wax on it, it helps keep water moisture from sitting.

so even if you got indestrucable cookbox, you still have a frame which will last 10 years+ but yeah may not look prettiest the whole time without touchup.

Stainless enclosures for looks only and i've yet to go over to someone's place and see one clean .02c, i clean my summit it looks like a mess in a few grillings. Unless it's 304 panels + frame you'll corrode at sharp edges of panels (enclosed so they gotta vent it) and where panels meet frame. 430 stainless is ok for outside but mate with painted frame and you have moisture points. lifting tank in and out gets old, and rarely is inside of these cleaned. An open breathable frame is less maintenance, less chance for moisture to collect. FLat storage areas of course but normally it starts at sharp corners where paint, powder coat is thin. but all frames outside a 304 will get some corrosion here and there. That said a clean stainless enclosure with corrosion on frame bottom, looks better than an open frame with corrosion =) but less easy to clean, and paint back up.

that s-435 looks good to me. Large cooking area, 304 weber burners, btu, no features i rarely use or can't duplicate other ways, open frame, porcelain box, porcelain top last ages(don't go all nuts cleaning it either) large removable drip pan for regular cleaning (sooner the better after sauces). i like the looks of that open frame. I don't need one but i remember seeing it in the store

So just saying 2500 like this op one is costly, but the 304 box, frame + welded is why it's a very long life easy to maintain, takes a lot of abuse grill from the looks of it.
Great into. Thanks again. There are some rebates on the Napoleon rogue series as well. I don't have a covered patio so even with a cover it will be out in the elements at time. I'm in MA near the water so rust very quickly.
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