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Samsung 65" Q80T 4k TV (2020) - $1445.00

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I recently offered 1445.00 for the 65" Samsung Q80T 4k TV and it was accepted today. The current retail price is at least $1799.99 + Tax. This is my first post, I apologize if I missed something.

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Bad TV.

2019 Q80R is cheaper right now and a better TV.

Q80R Satisfactory condition at BB: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sams...Id=6331763

$1080

If you haven't followed the prior threads this is almost guaranteed to be a display model that will be nearly flawless with all accessories. It would normally be listed as Excellent, but they are clearing all 2019 models out.

With the money saved you can get a geek squad warranty that's BETTER than the factory one and still be cheaper (2 years).
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Depends on what you use the tv for. For just movies, yes the q80r is probably a better choice, for gaming, the T model has HDMI 2.1 as well as earc support. So it depends on your needs.
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Bad TV.

2019 Q80R is cheaper right now and a better TV.

Q80R Satisfactory condition at BB: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sams...Id=6331763

$1080

If you haven't followed the prior threads this is almost guaranteed to be a display model that will be nearly flawless with all accessories. It would normally be listed as Excellent, but they are clearing all 2019 models out.

With the money saved you can get a geek squad warranty that's BETTER than the factory one and still be cheaper (2 years).
I thought you didn't want display models generally because they're on for so many hours a day cranked to highest brightness. Did something change in the last 5 years or so that made that not the case?
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I thought you didn't want display models generally because they're on for so many hours a day cranked to highest brightness. Did something change in the last 5 years or so that made that not the case?
QLED has no such thing as burn in. You have your data terribly confused.
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Depends on what you use the tv for. For just movies, yes the q80r is probably a better choice, for gaming, the T model has HDMI 2.1 as well as earc support. So it depends on your needs.
You just throw around terms without knowing what they are?

eARC has no direct correlation with gaming.

HDMI 2.1... 8k or 120hz 4k? Cool. Now please show me a single GPU in the universe that has HDMI 2.1.

I will wait.
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You just throw around terms without knowing what they are?

eARC has no direct correlation with gaming.

HDMI 2.1... 8k or 120hz 4k? Cool. Now please show me a single GPU in the universe that has HDMI 2.1.

I will wait.
This year there will likely be GPUs with HDMI 2.1 (3000 series) and new consoles will as well. There's also really low input lag on this TV. There are definitely ways in which it's worse, but this TV has features that could be quite useful for PC gaming in the near future.
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This year there will likely be GPUs with HDMI 2.1 (3000 series) and new consoles will as well. There's also really low input lag on this TV. There are definitely ways in which it's worse, but this TV has features that could be quite useful for PC gaming in the near future.
Well, that's all fine and dandy, bit if someone is looking for a gaming TV, there are better options... Otherwise they are sacrificing what they actually want (PQ) for something that can be found else where.

I don't care what smoke they try to blow, next gen consoles will not be doing 4k @ 120hz with all graphics maxed out.

They will sacrifice to hit those numbers like any PC gamer on a single GPU who says they got more than 60hz at 4k in a AAA title... They lower the graphic quality to hit that so, no I am not impressed with buying a TV to fulfill a single function that will be manipulated anyways to achieve it's capabilities.

P.S. input lag is BS. last year's reviews spouted how good the R series had.... so far, time hasn't changed in human existence so the lower input lag of the T series is a moot point.
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Well, that's all fine and dandy, bit if someone is looking for a gaming TV, there are better options... Otherwise they are sacrificing what they actually want (PQ) for something that can be found else where.

I don't care what smoke they try to blow, next gen consoles will not be doing 4k @ 120hz with all graphics maxed out.

They will sacrifice to hit those numbers like any PC gamer on a single GPU who says they got more than 60hz at 4k in a AAA title... They lower the graphic quality to hit that so, no I am not impressed with buying a TV to fulfill a single function that will be manipulated anyways to achieve it's capabilities.

P.S. input lag is BS. last year's reviews spouted how good the R series had.... so far, time hasn't changed in human existence so the lower input lag of the T series is a moot point.
I don't think AAA console games will hit even close to 120hz either, however, PC games with high end cards should be at least 60 and of course it'll get better in years to come. Maybe this isn't possible, but if hdmi 2.1 can do 4:4:4 and use hdr simultaneously, that would be appealing to me since game mode tends to look worse, at least with PC games.
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You just throw around terms without knowing what they are?

eARC has no direct correlation with gaming.

HDMI 2.1... 8k or 120hz 4k? Cool. Now please show me a single GPU in the universe that has HDMI 2.1.

I will wait.
First if you actually read what I wrote I was saying 2.1 is good for gamers AS well as having earc support which is enhanced audio return channel for full lossless audio Atmos support (I guess I don't know right?). I didn't mean to imply earc was for gaming, but you're a tard that was just looking for something to pick apart.

There may not be a GPU out now that will utilize 2.1, but it's more for future proofing especially with ps5 and xbsx coming. Now go ahead and reply with some stupid snarky "clap back."
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QLED has no such thing as burn in. You have your data terribly confused.
I didn't see him say anything about burn in....there you go trying to pick something apart without reading what he wrote. I wouldn't want a used tv that's been running all day long QLED or not.
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I didn't see him say anything about burn in....there you go trying to pick something apart without reading what he wrote. I wouldn't want a used tv that's been running all day long QLED or not.
What else would he be talking about concerning screen life from being a display model? Being dense does not equate being knowledgeable.

Again though since you seem to have a hard time understanding - many of these "satisfactory" condition TVs are nearly flawless and with a better than factory warranty you are actually safer buying one... all for cheaper and with a TV that gets better picture quality.

I'm sure that 500 hours of use hurts the 30,000 hour life span...lol
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First if you actually read what I wrote I was saying 2.1 is good for gamers AS well as having earc support which is enhanced audio return channel for full lossless audio Atmos support (I guess I don't know right?). I didn't mean to imply earc was for gaming, but you're a tard that was just looking for something to pick apart.

There may not be a GPU out now that will utilize 2.1, but it's more for future proofing especially with ps5 and xbsx coming. Now go ahead and reply with some stupid snarky "clap back."
"for gaming, the T model has HDMI 2.1 as well as earc support."

Learn to construct your sentences better. Add a period at least to separate eARC from your message, "for gaming".

Learn how to correctly convey a message if you want it accurately interpreted.
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What else would he be talking about concerning screen life from being a display model? Being dense does not equate being knowledgeable.

Again though since you seem to have a hard time understanding - many of these "satisfactory" condition TVs are nearly flawless and with a better than factory warranty you are actually safer buying one... all for cheaper and with a TV that gets better picture quality.

I'm sure that 500 hours of use hurts the 30,000 hour life span...lol
Then you go ahead and continue to buy satisfactory used TV's. Enjoy.
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What else would he be talking about concerning screen life from being a display model? Being dense does not equate being knowledgeable.

Again though since you seem to have a hard time understanding - many of these "satisfactory" condition TVs are nearly flawless and with a better than factory warranty you are actually safer buying one... all for cheaper and with a TV that gets better picture quality.

I'm sure that 500 hours of use hurts the 30,000 hour life span...lol
I was not talking about burn in, I was talking about led lifespan which you covered with this comment.

I think your estimates for how long display tvs are powered on every day is wildly off, but your point still stands. At 10 hours a day for roughly a year you're looking at 3,000 hours give or take, but that's still only 10% off the tvs life. You're definitely saving more than 10% buying the satisfactory model.

Also fwiw, not all satisfactory models are in great condition too. I called my local bestbuy and one of the display models they have in stock is missing feet and remote. Not a big deal if you plan to wall mount, but that one wouldn't work for me.

Thank you for the comment though, I didn't realize that LED lifespans had gotten in to the multiple ten thousand's range.
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