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Fantastic clearance deals on Demeyere Industry5 at Cutlery and More with free shipping at $99. The remaining available is accurate as I picked up the last 8 qt stock pot with matched pasta insert and steamer insert then BOOM they were out of stock! I vetted most of the prices and they are fantastic except for the wok which can be had for less in the Demeyere 5-Plus rebrand (same item, different handles). Note that the discontinued Zwilling Sensation is also a rebrand of these cookware.

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The Demeyere Industry5 line is considered superior to All-Clad D3 and D5 (and arguably Copper Core) lines due to thicker aluminum layer, welded handles (no rivets to clean around), all items have rolled edges for pouring, arguably more comfortable handles, and the Silvinox finish that removes all impurities on the surfaces of the stainless steel layers for a long lasting finish.

https://therationalkitchen.com/be...tab-con-20

And to help those who aren't sure what cookware pieces to get:
https://forums.egullet.org/topic/...-cookware/
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Think it's worth getting the stock pot 12qt? No pasta insert that I can find for it, and that was sort of a bare minimum for me, although I'd love an amazing stock pot.

It's also only $50 cheaper than the 5-Plus rebrand on the same site, so not an insane deal at $250.
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Think it's worth getting the stock pot 12qt? No pasta insert that I can find for it, and that was sort of a bare minimum for me, although I'd love an amazing stock pot.

It's also only $50 cheaper than the 5-Plus rebrand on the same site, so not an insane deal at $250.
Well yeah, comparing the site to itself that's not a huge difference but compared to anywhere else it's a huge discount. Amazon is selling it for $400 and some no-name site has it at $353 so $250 is a real deal.

https://www.amazon.com/Demeyere-5...B07L524J53

I actually debated for a while whether to get the 12 qt as IMO it's a solid deal. But in the end decided to skip it as for that quantity I'd really only be looking at very fluid recipes (like soup or stock vs thick stews or chilis) so would prefer a disc bottom pot vs losing heat via the clad sidewalls into the kitchen. And you're right, I couldn't find matched pasta and steamer inserts for the 12 qt. The Demeyere Atlantis line only seems to go to 8 quarts as well. So if one day I do get a disc bottom 12 qt, it will probably have to be from Update International which gets solid reviews for a cheap stock pot.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X1JRX2/
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Well yeah, comparing the site to itself that's not a huge difference but compared to anywhere else it's a huge discount. Amazon is selling it for $400 and some no-name site has it at $353 so $250 is a real deal.

https://www.amazon.com/Demeyere-5...B07L524J53 [amazon.com]

I actually debated for a while whether to get the 12 qt as IMO it's a solid deal. But in the end decided to skip it as for that quantity I'd really only be looking at very fluid recipes (like soup or stock vs thick stews or chilis) so would prefer a disc bottom pot vs losing heat via the clad sidewalls into the kitchen. And you're right, I couldn't find matched pasta and steamer inserts for the 12 qt. The Demeyere Atlantis line only seems to go to 8 quarts as well. So if one day I do get a disc bottom 12 qt, it will probably have to be from Update International which gets solid reviews for a cheap stock pot.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X1JRX2/
This is basically the same logic I went through, ha.

I'll go w/ the cheaper disc bottom as well, I actually had this same brand on my watch list with a few others - but wasn't sure much about construction of the pots so i'm glad to hear that.
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This is basically the same logic I went through, ha.

I'll go w/ the cheaper disc bottom as well, I actually had this same brand on my watch list with a few others - but wasn't sure much about construction of the pots so i'm glad to hear that.
HA! Yeah, the use cases really start to merge at those larger sizes. Here are some comparison reviews where Update International gets recommended as a disc bottom stock pot.

https://foodal.com/kitchen/pots-p...stock-pot/
https://www.businessinsider.com/best-stockpot
https://www.kitchengearzone.com/best-stock-pots/

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Fantastic clearance deals on Demeyere Industry5 at Cutlery and More with free shipping at $99. The remaining available is accurate as I picked up the last 8 qt stock pot with matched pasta insert and steamer insert then BOOM they were out of stock! I vetted most of the prices and they are fantastic except for the wok which can be had for less in the Demeyere 5-Plus rebrand (same item, different handles). Note that the discontinued Zwilling Sensation is also a rebrand of these cookware.

https://www.cutleryandmore.com/cl...d:Demeyere
i have the copper core which i like but it has it disadvantages and advantages so should i even consider demeyere. the copper core are heavy but very durable. heat retention are great. i found the frying pan very sticky and a pain in the but to clean.
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i have the copper core which i like but it has it disadvantages and advantages so should i even consider demeyere. the copper core are heavy but very durable. heat retention are great. i found the frying pan very sticky and a pain in the but to clean.
Well the Copper Core line only offers a thin 1 mm of copper which works out to an equivalent of just over 2 mm of aluminum. In comparison, Demeyere Industry5 offers 2.1 mm of aluminum and the higher end Atlantis/ProLine offer significantly more. That being said, copper is more responsive to heat changes and disperses more evenly at the cost of a much lower heat capacity compared to aluminum and costs a LOT more than Demeyere Industry5.

https://www.centurylife.org/in-de...rying-pan/

https://www.centurylife.org/in-de...a-c%C2%B2/

IMO, I would get Demeyere Industry5 over AC Copper Core for the handles and welded handles (no rivets) BUT if you already have AC CC, I would not replace them. You could still pick up other items to compliment your existing set-up. For example, I really like the conical sauciers and these are reportedly very similar build to the higher end Demeyere Atlantis series. The rebranded 5-Plus wok on the site is going for $99 which is a STEAL as it's going for about $240 elsewhere and the aluminum heat capacity makes up for the low consumer BTU (vs commercial range output). So lots of quality options to choose from.
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Well the Copper Core line only offers a thin 1 mm of copper which works out to an equivalent of just over 2 mm of aluminum. In comparison, Demeyere Industry5 offers 2.1 mm of aluminum and the higher end Atlantis/ProLine offer significantly more. That being said, copper is more responsive to heat changes and disperses more evenly at the cost of a much lower heat capacity compared to aluminum and costs a LOT more than Demeyere Industry5.

https://www.centurylife.org/in-de...rying-pan/

https://www.centurylife.org/in-de...a-c%C2%B2/

IMO, I would get Demeyere Industry5 over AC Copper Core for the handles and welded handles (no rivets) BUT if you already have AC CC, I would not replace them. You could still pick up other items to compliment your existing set-up. For example, I really like the conical sauciers and these are reportedly very similar build to the higher end Demeyere Atlantis series. The rebranded 5-Plus wok on the site is going for $99 which is a STEAL as it's going for about $240 elsewhere and the aluminum heat capacity makes up for the low consumer BTU (vs commercial range output). So lots of quality options to choose from.
My biggest issue is the weight. I have no problem using them but my wife and pretty much everyone that comes over and use it complain it's too heavy
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My biggest issue is the weight. I have no problem using them but my wife and pretty much everyone that comes over and use it complain it's too heavy
I believe the Industry5 are lighter than Copper Core since copper weighs so much but the Atlantis series would definitely be heavier.
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The rebranded 5-Plus wok on the site is going for $99 which is a STEAL as it's going for about $240 elsewhere and the aluminum heat capacity makes up for the low consumer BTU (vs commercial range output). So lots of quality options to choose from.
What do you mean by that in bold? I actually have a high output range (blustar 22,000 BTU burner) - would you think that WOK is good over my existing (cheap) carbon steel wok? https://smile.amazon.com/gp/produ...UTF8&psc=1 - I don't use it that often, but this wok is constantly smoking MASSIVELY in my blustar when in use, and is really tough to cook in to be honest - not sure if it's technique/speed vs. the quality of the wok.
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What do you mean by that in bold? I actually have a high output range (blustar 22,000 BTU burner) - would you think that WOK is good over my existing (cheap) carbon steel wok? https://smile.amazon.com/gp/produ...UTF8&psc=1 - I don't use it that often, but this wok is constantly smoking MASSIVELY in my blustar when in use, and is really tough to cook in to be honest - not sure if it's technique/speed vs. the quality of the wok.
Yeah that's not that many BTU. See this article:

https://medium.com/@jamesheathers...1a100bfad6

So our problem is avoiding the drop in temperature when food hits the pan. That's why I suggest a higher end wok with an aluminum heat reservoir to partially make up for the lack of comparable BTU.
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Yeah that's not that many BTU. See this article:

https://medium.com/@jamesheathers...1a100bfad6 [medium.com]

So our problem is avoiding the drop in temperature when food hits the pan. That's why I suggest a higher end wok with an aluminum heat reservoir to partially make up for the lack of comparable BTU.
Nice, thanks for the info. I'll grab it for $99!

What do you think about the insane amount of smoke that woks produce (or even, for that matter, my dremeyere stainless sautee when i'm searing steak?
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Nice, thanks for the info. I'll grab it for $99!

What do you think about the insane amount of smoke that woks produce (or even, for that matter, my dremeyere stainless sautee when i'm searing steak?
Glad I could help! Well IMO I'd shoot for about 450 F and try to hold that temp. There are oils and fats that can take that temp. Not sure you're getting much value in stir frying any higher than that. Would be great if someone with more experience or knowledge of the science behind "wokking" could chime in.
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Nice, thanks for the info. I'll grab it for $99!

What do you think about the insane amount of smoke that woks produce (or even, for that matter, my dremeyere stainless sautee when i'm searing steak?
Seems like the maillard reaction temps still apply so better to keep it around 350 F and definitely below 400 F.

https://www.pork.org/cooking/meth...evelopment.
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