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You would think. But in devices like this there is always "losses" in efficiency. Marketing uses VA which is what comes out of the wall (watts) but you have to look at the actual Wattage rating after power factor like other user said to see what actual wattage you can pull on the unit. e.g. 1500VA will pull 1500W at the wall but only power a 900W PSU in a desktop
It doesn't actively pull 1500W from the wall. When there is no outage, it's simply maintaining the battery charged, acts just like a surge protector, power is pass through from the outlet to the devices.
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Makes sense... no separate game box, no tv cable modem and no external speakers, you might get half an hour out of this 900 watt UPS and have surge protection.... you don't want to run these UPS batteries dead and as time goes on, their output is less and less.

Small UPS's were not designed to be a generator, per say, but more to give you time to shut things down when a power outage is going to be awhile. But, with a couple of lithium battery backups, or a solar system, this could work out.. albeit a bit inefficient with 1500 watts in and 900 watts out.

I do like the extra surge protection from the utility company... which they will deny, but if lightning hits close, no surge protector seems to help.
My current cyberpowers show you estimated run time at current load.Most are designed for 4-10 minutes at full load. Which means my 900W can run 100W load for about an hour... No reason not to get larger va/wattage
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Cyberpower Intelligent LCD 1500 VA Battery Backup UPS, 10-Outlets, Black (LX1500GU)
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It doesn't actively pull 1500W from the wall. When there is no outage, it's simply maintaining the battery charged, acts just like a surge protector, power is pass through from the outlet to the devices.
Yeah I was simplifying the power factor discussion that inevitably comes up. No one wants to read the wiki on it. Just know that the wattage is the only thing that matters.
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They have some BS method of calculating wattage. Yes, a Volt Amp is a Watt, but apparently that is assuming 100% efficiency, which these do not do. Some also refer to it as power factor. Most devices use part of the sine wave. For that reason, I refer a VA as a vili-amp (say it with a Russian accent for a laugh.)
1 volt amp is 1 watt on 120v AC ... and of course, that is the input, which is 1500 watts with an output of 900 watts.

Power factor and for simplistic sake, your PF is the ratio of input to output. In this case, the PF is 0,6 (6/15). But do remember, the UPS is consuming some energy, such as running a fan and doing other things, including producing a modified sign wave with cheaper circuitry that is of course, using more energy. In this price range, we are not going to find a pure sign wave.

When the exact variables are unknown and input AC is never exactly 120v or 115v, my Fluke tester for single phase does the calculation for me. I have never been around DC much, but just getting into solar and the numbers are a bit different, but very important for choosing component efficiency.
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Yeah I was simplifying the power factor discussion that inevitably comes up. No one wants to read the wiki on it. Just know that the wattage is the only thing that matters.
Good luck finding my post in your Wiki, which btw, was a bit revealing on your part... lol

Nevertheless, here is the deal.... Using this modified sign wave for any length of time will cause problems with computers. Use it long enough to save and shut down.
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It doesn't actively pull 1500W from the wall. When there is no outage, it's simply maintaining the battery charged, acts just like a surge protector, power is pass through from the outlet to the devices.
It pulls 1500w to charge itself. At least that is what the specs say. And the specs also say 900w output. Like any charge and conversion system, there is lossage and the cheaper the components, the more loss, but there will always be loss.
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Good luck finding my post in your Wiki, which btw, was a bit revealing on your part... lol

Nevertheless, here is the deal.... Using this modified sign wave for any length of time will cause problems with computers. Use it long enough to save and shut down.
Sources on simu sine "damaging" components please? Some psus that aren't up to ATX spec will simply not work with it. Others thst are A-PFC will have an audible hum while running. But it will not damage your components. I ran a 1000VA/600W on my EVGA-850GS PSU for 5 years. It's still kicking. Just rebuilt a new rig and have a 1000W GQ PSU and 1500W/910W Pure Sine UPS that is running it 24/7. Paying for pure sine is rarely worth it unless you have very sensitive electronics that are affected by the voltage provided
Edit: Just to clarify I see you said "cause problems"?not "damage" so ignore if that is not what you meant. No one is running standalone UPS as a generator. But you can expect it to run a few hundred watts for more than a few seconds. Idk why you're saying a 900W UPS can't run a typical TV setup?
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My LED TV is about 140W. My dual GPU w/ AMD 3900x is around 600W right now. 1000W PSU.
I am going to correct myself and leave this thread. You don't want to use a modified sign wave to run your computer for any length of time. The concept sounds great, but the fact is, long term will damage your computer and newer 'smart' TV's. Use the UPS long enough to save whatever and shut down.
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I am going to correct myself and leave this thread. You don't want to use a modified sign wave to run your computer for any length of time. The concept sounds great, but the fact is, long term will damage your computer and newer 'smart' TV's. Use the UPS long enough to save whatever and shut down.
Stick to Tool Deals... Adios. I can say from 5 years of Simu Sine on an up to spec PSU that there is zero issues. PSU is under 10yr warranty and I'm selling my old rig if anyone doesn't believe me
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Stick to Tool Deals... Adios. I can say from 5 years of Simu Sine on an up to spec PSU that there is zero issues. PSU is under 10yr warranty and I'm selling my old rig if anyone doesn't believe me
I am not going to argue with a wiki queen that does not even know what a "power factor' is.... I don't believe you have run a computer power supply for five years from a modified sine wave UPS with no issues and if you did, make sure you advertise that when you sell it.

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Simulated...notice how they left that part out of description...I currently have the CyberPower GX1325U which looks just like this one bought in March 2019 for $118 from NewEgg. Zero issues. Fantastic... Pure sine..
I have this same model and it just died after just over 1 year of daily use. The through power plugs work, but the battery backup plugs do not. I thought it was a fluke with the first CyberPower UPS I bought 2 years ago (the previous 1500VA version of this) which also died after 1yr of daily use. I'd suggest a "better" name brand for these UPS's. CyberPower has other good products, but these aren't one of them based on my experience with 2 different 1500VA models with the same results both times.
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It pulls 1500w to charge itself. At least that is what the specs say. And the specs also say 900w output. Like any charge and conversion system, there is lossage and the cheaper the components, the more loss, but there will always be loss.
1500W to charge a 12V battery, what the current would that be?
It's a miracle the house isn't burnt down.
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1500W to charge a 12V battery, what the current would that be?
It's a miracle the house isn't burnt down.
12.5 amps at 120v .... Watt/Volt=Amp ... (1500/120) ... 12 gauge Cu wire is 20amp and 14 gauge is 15amp in residential, so you will probably be fine as long as a coffee maker or toaster is not on the same circuit. Although we use all 12gauge copper wire and 20 amp outlets, most residential are 15 amp outlets because they are cheaper. Anyway, that is what circuit breakers are for. Smilie
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12.5 amps at 120v .... Watt/Volt=Amp ... (1500/120) ... 12 gauge Cu wire is 20amp and 14 gauge is 15amp in residential, so you will probably be fine as long as a coffee maker or toaster is not on the same circuit. Although we use all 12gauge copper wire and 20 amp outlets, most residential are 15 amp outlets because they are cheaper. Anyway, that is what circuit breakers are for. Smilie
I'm talking about the 12V battery which you can at most charge it at 18V, so 1500W? what current at the charging circuit?
To recap what you said earlier "It pulls 1500w to charge itself. ".
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