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BestBuy [bestbuy.com] has the Yamaha Model:RX-V485BL - 400W 5.1-Ch. 4K HDR Compatible A/V Home Theater Receiver - Black on sale for $329 ($70 off).

This is the lowest I've seen for this model.

This 5.1-channel AV receiver offers Wi-Fi®, Bluetooth® and the latest streaming technologies.
  • 5.1-Channel powerful surround sound
  • Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, AirPlay 2, Spotify Connect and MusicCast multi-room
  • Pandora®, Spotify, SiriusXM Internet Radio, TIDAL, Deezer, Napster and more
  • HDMI® with HDCP 2.3 (4 in/1 out)
  • 4K Ultra HD, HDR10, Dolby Vision™, Hybrid Log-Gamma and BT.2020
  • Voice control with Alexa and Google Assistant devices or Siri via AirPlay 2
  • MusicCast Surround capable: add MusicCast 20 or MusicCast 50 speakers to create a 5.1-channel setup with wireless rear surrounds
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Had Onkyo and Pioneer receivers which are the same company now that had mother/daughter board issues within the first year. They sound fantastic and have all the feature's you'd want and are reasonably priced, but simply are not reliable and you won't be happy about it. But when they work, they are fantastic. Yamaha seems to be much more reliable, But this doesn't seem to be a great deal, so i don't know why there is a thread on this. I see 4K 7.1 receivers posted here all the time for under $300. So what's so special about this 5.1 that makes it more expensive than those?
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Had Onkyo and Pioneer receivers which are the same company now that had mother/daughter board issues within the first year. They sound fantastic and have all the feature's you'd want and are reasonably priced, but simply are not reliable and you won't be happy about it. But when they work, they are fantastic. Yamaha seems to be much more reliable, But this doesn't seem to be a great deal, so i don't know why there is a thread on this. I see 4K 7.1 receivers posted here all the time for under $300. So what's so special about this 5.1 that makes it more expensive than those?
You just answered your own question. The only 7.1 receiver deals posted under $300 in 2020 are Pioneer or Onkyo, which you admitted are crap for reliability and only 1 year warranty.

How covid will affect supply and prices in the future is anybody's guess but it's not looking good so far.

If 5.1 is sufficent, this isn't a bad option. I personally would roll the dice on a BB open box (or a refurbed TSR-7850 just for the extra power), but that's me .
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This may help someone in the future that's debating on what system to get for movies/tv:
  • Entry Level Sound: Soundbar w/Sub - "longer" soundbars help create more left/right separation, and you'll really need a sub with speakers this size. This means you don't need a receiver (like the one in this thread). You'll probably hook your TV up to this through the HDMI ARC port, so HDMI-in for audio is a critical feature. Many can do Atmos and other codecs, but not a big issue on a soundbar setup. I'd personally go for better sound quality than worrying about Atmos here. I'd avoid the HTIB's --- usually the speakers are crap and you're running a lot of wires for stuff not much better off than a good soundbar+sub.
  • (this AVR) Entry Level AVR: 3.1 or 5.1 Setup - Similar to entry level, but now you have a separate AVR with speaker wires to run to locations. The ability to place speakers farther apart or to the sides creates a much more immersive environment with directional sound, and having larger speaker cabinets vs a sounder will have better performance / price ratio. All of these should have Atmos and some kind of Auddessey setup which are crucial IMO. You likely will run input sources HDMI right to your TV, so the ARC-out of the TV back to the AVR is what you'll use. These are cheap.
  • Home Theater Level AVR: 5.1.2 setup - This is where I recommend people go if they're going above soundbars. This setup requires a 7 channel amp/avr. It has 3 fronts, 2 heights (ceiling), 2 surrounds. If you're going to get a new AVR here, I recommend future-proofing where you can. Get one with HDMI 2.1 on both this and your TV for 8k/gaming compatibility, I personally find Airplay 2 a killer feature.
  • There's TONS of levels of above this in the HT hobby, but if you're considering any of those you probably already know this stuff and don't need this guide.
I'm currently running an 7.2.4 setup with some additional external amps. I love it, but it's a lot of work for not much benefit for the 2 rear surrounds and 2 rear Atmos speakers. Basically, those extra speakers are amazing to help the 2nd row of seating get the same immersive sound as the front, but for single-row seating it's barely noticeable outside of a few specific scenes. The sweet spot for most people is in the 5.1.2 setup. The front height speakers really help fill the front soundstage to sound more natural.

Hope this helps someone out there debating on what setup to run, and if this AVR is right for them.
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I need I guess an entry-level receiver that handles 5.1 - no other devices going into it except a smart tv and 4K streaming (Amazon, Netflix). Is this receiver overkill for basic purposes, and/or is there a better (cheaper) alternative?
if you just need basic 5.1 then there are other less expensive options (Does not mean they are better or you). it comes down to what you need the AVR to process signal wise. A basic AVR starts about $200-ish. You need to look at what you will use this for today as well as in the future. If your future entails something more elaborate then spending money on something this basic may be a waste.
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This Yamaha or denon avr-s540bt? Total watt is 400 to 700.
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You just answered your own question. The only 7.1 receiver deals posted under $300 in 2020 are Pioneer or Onkyo, which you admitted are crap for reliability and only 1 year warranty.

How covid will affect supply and prices in the future is anybody's guess but it's not looking good so far.

If 5.1 is sufficent, this isn't a bad option. I personally would roll the dice on a BB open box (or a refurbed TSR-7850 just for the extra power), but that's me .
I only need 5.1 but i am not paying $330 for one. I dont need special features. Just plenty of HDMI and good sound and reliability. I think they should be lower than $250.
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I only need 5.1 but i am not paying $330 for one. I dont need special features. Just plenty of HDMI and good sound and reliability. I think they should be lower than $250.
Again, we don't have time machine and can't go back to Black Friday. What's a better Deal that's available today?

Where do you live? I'll sell you my 2 year old RXV-383 for $150.
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I only need 5.1 but i am not paying $330 for one. I dont need special features. Just plenty of HDMI and good sound and reliability. I think they should be lower than $250.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/yama...Id=6198554

You might be able to find it cheaper on eBay.
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This seems to have everything I want, but I need to ask something, and I know that a LOT of judgement is going to come my way for asking this, so first a couple disclaimers: An old Bose Lifestyle 5.1 system came with the house when I bought it. It has been working fine, sounds fine, but the important part is that the speakers are all already mounted and it would be a huge pain to get new speakers that look right in the room.

So, I would like to drive the existing Bose speakers (you know, the tiny pairs of speakers front and rear, a decent middle above the TV, and a sub) with this receiver. Will that work? And how horrible will it be? Anyone have any experience with slowly upgrading from an old Bose system?
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A basic 5.1 can be found for closer to $220-$250 with patience and waiting for sales but this model has network functionality as well. All things considered, this is a good price for a good mid-range budget-ish setup.
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I only need 5.1 but i am not paying $330 for one. I dont need special features. Just plenty of HDMI and good sound and reliability. I think they should be lower than $250.
Then THIS particular unit is not for you because it has more features then YOU require. That doesn't make this a bad deal for someone who wants a 5.1 AVR with all these features.

BTW have you looked at the Yamaha RX-V385 [bestbuy.com] or the Denon AVR-S540BT [bestbuy.com]. Both are currently $279
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I only need 5.1 but i am not paying $330 for one. I dont need special features. Just plenty of HDMI and good sound and reliability. I think they should be lower than $250.
see post #64 for your answer.there are other less expensive options out there starting at just over $200
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This Yamaha or denon avr-s540bt? Total watt is 400 to 700.
you are misunderstanding the way AVR power ratings are reported. the specs are for 2 channels driven at 8 ohms (I have never seen a real life speaker that has 8 ohms resistance across the frequency spectrum). when you stress that small amp and try to drive 7 channels you will be lucky to get 50-70% of the rated power. so you won't ever get the rated power times the number of channels (400 or 700 in this case). once the speaker resistance is lower than 8 ohms (Which is very common) that stresses the amp even more.

you also need to figure in the THD level as well as the amp build quality. ratings are for "comparative" purposes only but are not that meaningful in real world applications. there are so many amps that have lower power ratings but can easily outperform a higher rated amp. the relevance of AVR power ratings is widely misunderstood.

from personal experience i have demo-ed a number of recent denon AVRs and found them to be a bit over-rated in performance.
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This Yamaha or denon avr-s540bt? Total watt is 400 to 700.
The Denon does not have any WiFi capabilities or network access. So it depends if those feature are worth an additional $50 to you.
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see post #64 for your answer.there are other less expensive options out there starting at just over $200

you are misunderstanding the way AVR power ratings are reported. the specs are for 2 channels driven at 8 ohms (I have never seen a real life speaker that has 8 ohms resistance across the frequency spectrum). when you stress that small amp and try to drive 7 channels you will be lucky to get 50-70% of the rated power. so you won't ever get the rated power times the number of channels (400 or 700 in this case). once the speaker resistance is lower than 8 ohms (Which is very common) that stresses the amp even more.

you also need to figure in the THD level as well as the amp build quality. ratings are for "comparative" purposes only but are not that meaningful in real world applications. there are so many amps that have lower power ratings but can easily outperform a higher rated amp. the relevance of AVR power ratings is widely misunderstood.

from personal experience i have demo-ed a number of recent denon AVRs and found them to be a bit over-rated in performance.
Thank you for the details. Kinda new to the AVR. I am trying to see which one to buy between this Yamaha and denon avr-s540bt. I just got the klipsch reference theater pack 5.1 and wanted to buy AVR for it. Any recommendations would be gladly appreciated.
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I heard that Deal parade usually has great condition yamaha TSR 7850 for like 350 with a year warranty on ebay. It's usually 270 ish but depending on taking the refurb route or new 485, that could have been a better option for you
Deal Parade has it for $329. I was on the fence a few weeks ago when they were $279, went to buy it an hour later and they had upped it to $329. Got it anyway since I couldn't find anything local with similar specs, I needed as many 4k hdmi inputs as I could get. A4L and other deals have dried up in light of current events so who knows when we'll see decent deals again.

To anyone considering this, if you can't wait, at $330 I would definitely get the refurb 7.2 7850 over the 5.1 V485. HDMI - 5 in / 2 out vs. 4 in / 1 out. LR and 2 sub pre-outs with zone 2 out vs just 1 sub out on the 485.
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Thank you for the details. Kinda new to the AVR. I am trying to see which one to buy between this Yamaha and denon avr-s540bt. I just got the klipsch reference theater pack 5.1 and wanted to buy AVR for it. Any recommendations would be gladly appreciated.
it is way too common that folks new to AV equipment shop specs and then end up disappointed in their purchase. there is a lot more that goes into purchasing the right equipment than specs.

i help out a number of members on these boards as i have worked in the industry for many years. message me and i can help guide you through the process to get you the equipment that works for you today as well as tomorrow. i hate making specific recommendations on the actual thread because the answer is not the same for everyone.
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