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are these JBL speakers better than these Klipsch r820's? (Link below) not too knowledgeable in the audio game, but my gf can get these klipsch r820's for around $250 each with her discount. I don't mind spending an extra $50 if the jbl's are better tho. Thanks in advance

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klip...Id=6241803
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are these JBL speakers better than these Klipsch r820's? (Link below) not too knowledgeable in the audio game, but my gf can get these klipsch r820's for around $250 each with her discount. I don't mind spending an extra $50 if the jbl's are better tho. Thanks in advance

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klip...Id=6241803
Sound is always subjective. Klipschs are bright, horn loaded, some ppl like them some don't, the ones that you linked are regular reference series and not their higher end RP line. I would recommend Jbls for sure. For what its worth, i had reference and then rp-8000s but sold them and drive 590s in my dedicated HT. I still use Klipsch RB61s bookshelves in my living room.
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Sound is always subjective. Klipschs are bright, horn loaded, some ppl like them some don't, the ones that you linked are regular reference series and not their higher end RP line. I would recommend Jbls for sure. For what its worth, i had reference and then rp-8000s but sold them and drive 590s in my dedicated HT. I still use Klipsch RB61s bookshelves in my living room.
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are these JBL speakers better than these Klipsch r820's? (Link below) not too knowledgeable in the audio game, but my gf can get these klipsch r820's for around $250 each with her discount. I don't mind spending an extra $50 if the jbl's are better tho. Thanks in advance

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/klip...Id=6241803 [bestbuy.com]
The 590 is comparable to Klipsch RF-7 iii which is 2 notches above r820. Here is a link comparing 590 and Klipsch RP8000

https://forums.audioholics.com/fo...st-1318396
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I am debating 580 vs R-625fa , 625FA has atmos inbuilt , so inst that a better deal on adorama?
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I am debating 580 vs R-625fa , 625FA has atmos inbuilt , so inst that a better deal on adorama?
JBL is the better speaker. Unless you get Klipsch RF8000 or RF-7iii there is no comparison. The only speakers I would get from Klipsch is RF-7iii or Cornwall 4
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JBL is the better speaker. Unless you get Klipsch RF8000 or RF-7iii there is no comparison. The only speakers I would get from Klipsch is RF-7iii or Cornwall 4
Thanks , ordered 580s , Now i m looking for receiver , there are so many options , totally confused.. my current AVR - yamaha 683 giving problems, the surround decoder doesn't work at all. it used to work, thats why looking for new AVR
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Thanks , ordered 580s , Now i m looking for receiver , there are so many options , totally confused.. my current AVR - yamaha 683 giving problems, the surround decoder doesn't work at all. it used to work, thats why looking for new AVR
The 2019 model Denon X3600 measured pretty good in ASR review, the 2020 model X4700 did not do well. Check if you can get the 2019 model on sale.

https://www.audiosciencereview.co...iew.12676/
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Which AVR are you using to drive r263? I have been thinking about emotiva basx 300
My AVR is Denon x3300w which has preouts but the signal level is pathetically low. This is a problem with many receivers and seems to be fairly inconsistent even within the same model (I read that my receiver would have good levels). The best solution might be to invest in a prepro with xlr outputs but those are expensive. A good stopgap on the way there is to use a cleanbox pro to boost signal levels out of the AVR preouts until one has the cash to go for the prepro. That's my plan. For movies this works great.

For music, I don't use my AVR at all. I use a surface pro 1 running tidal connected via short run USB to a smsl m300 dac. From the DAC I go XLR out to the same crown amp*. The signal level of the xlr balanced m300 is many times stronger than the AVR. More importantly. the quality through this chain is head and shoulders above any chain that involves the AVR. AVRs just aren't great for music... or at least, mine isn't and the prior Denon I owned also wasn't.

*How do I connect 2 sources (DAC and AVR/cleanbox) to the same 1-input amp? I picked up one of these pricey things... link below this paragraph. It works well, is passive (does not plug into the wall) and allows me to switch between music and movies with one nob. It took some calibration to set the levels such that movies and music would roughly be the same. Basically I had to turn my cleanbox up pretty far, and turn down the amp a bit. Had I not done this the music level would have been shockingly louder than movies.

https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-A...478&sr=8-5

Some people say this signal problem is a result of marrying "pro gear" to "consumer gear", however all amps, even consumer, suffer from the poor signal level my denon is pushing out. I tested this with several amps. My opinion of AVRs in general has suffered as a result of realizing they just aren't well designed for expanding into external amplification.

I think the emotiva would be fantastic and I considered it. I ended up going with crown xls1002 because I found a slick open box deal on it but it's only a stereo amp so my center is still powered by the denon.

There exists some dogma that all amps sound the same. It's not really true. But I will acknowledge that *at low volumes* the Denon and the Crown sound ALMOST the same. It's at moderate to high levels where the headroom of the Crown starts to shine. With the Denon, max volume is limited by progressively degrading sound quality. With the Crown, my eardrums are the limiter and the speakers stay poised and crystal clear with less boomy but more present and more textured bass at any obscene level. It's very noticeable. I would bet $1000 I could blind AB it with 100% accuracy at high volume.


TLDR! --- If you want really great music quality for about $1000 this is a decent route. I'm not saying it's the best, but it sounds great here:

1) Some kind of well built laptop Hi-res audio USB source (hopefully you already own)
2) USB to SMSL m300 DAC (~230 new but can be found used for cheap)
3) DAC XLR out to Crown XLS1002 (~300 new)
4) Send all this goodness to the JBL 580s
5) Enjoy
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The 2019 model Denon X3600 measured pretty good in ASR review, the 2020 model X4700 did not do well. Check if you can get the 2019 model on sale.

https://www.audiosciencereview.co...iew.12676/
thank you , but i m looking at something lower thn $500 , as i only have 5.1 setup for now, what i have noticed is , more thn quality all AVRs are expensive due to wireless options or connectivity in general. lets say i want the best "audio and video quality" 5.1 AVR , and i care less about it has wifi or not.
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thank you , but i m looking at something lower thn $500 , as i only have 5.1 setup for now, what i have noticed is , more thn quality all AVRs are expensive due to wireless options or connectivity in general. lets say i want the best "audio and video quality" 5.1 AVR , and i care less about it has wifi or not.
This is a hunch and I don't have direct experience but if I was shopping for a new AVR right now and didn't care much about expanding beyond 5.1 and I wanted the best possible sound quality and the potential for pre outs that aren't garbage.... I would check out integra used AVR or prepros. They used to sell them on accessories4less but now it's mostly relegated to ebay. At the time I shopped I was all into atmos so I insisted on a newish AVR with atmos. Meh..... and that's with ceiling mounted speakers. If I had a do-over I'd try an integra.

btw just to respond sloppily to a prior comment about atmos built in modules on tower speakers... man that is a bad compromise. Atmos is supposed to be ceiling mounted, the bounce of the ceiling trick is a poor compromise. It works well sometimes in certain rooms, but why would you mix a poor compromise with the goal of buying a set of audiophile speakers? To me that doesn't make sense. It breaks the rule of efficiency with electronics. just buy a pair of speakers where every penny of materials and R&D went into making them sound as good as possible. Then worry about atmos separately. Just my 2 cents.
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This is a hunch and I don't have direct experience but if I was shopping for a new AVR right now and didn't care much about expanding beyond 5.1 and I wanted the best possible sound quality and the potential for pre outs that aren't garbage.... I would check out integra used AVR or prepros. They used to sell them on accessories4less but now it's mostly relegated to ebay. At the time I shopped I was all into atmos so I insisted on a newish AVR with atmos. Meh..... and that's with ceiling mounted speakers. If I had a do-over I'd try an integra.

btw just to respond sloppily to a prior comment about atmos built in modules on tower speakers... man that is a bad compromise. Atmos is supposed to be ceiling mounted, the bounce of the ceiling trick is a poor compromise. It works well sometimes in certain rooms, but why would you mix a poor compromise with the goal of buying a set of audiophile speakers? To me that doesn't make sense. It breaks the rule of efficiency with electronics. just buy a pair of speakers where every penny of materials and R&D went into making them sound as good as possible. Then worry about atmos separately. Just my 2 cents.
makes total sense, that is why i ended up buying 580s , lot of good reviews, in my budget and not worrying abt atmos., with receiver I have couple of choices , YAmaha TSR-7850(Refurb) , Yamaha RX-V485 ( on SD today for %329) ,Onkyo TX-NR595 and Denon AVR-S750H , I know they all are not 5.1 but I am ok to pay extra if they sound great and will have option to add speakers in future. Any suggestion out of these ? I will check out Integra meanwhile.
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makes total sense, that is why i ended up buying 580s , lot of good reviews, in my budget and not worrying abt atmos., with receiver I have couple of choices , YAmaha TSR-7850(Refurb) , Yamaha RX-V485 ( on SD today for %329) ,Onkyo TX-NR595 and Denon AVR-S750H , I know they all are not 5.1 but I am ok to pay extra if they sound great and will have option to add speakers in future. Any suggestion out of these ? I will check out Integra meanwhile.
You're going to enjoy those 580s. Whatever receiver you go with, make sure when you're listening to music to use the Pure Direct mode or equivalent. It's the closest thing I can get to the purity of the amp/dac combo. I don't think in this case the problem is amplification... it's some sort of muddy processing that is useful for movies and destructive to stereo music.

My inclination with AVR is to buy based on features and spend as little as you can while preserving the features you want. They all seem decent and none pass the audiophile stereo test imo. Raw output/sound quality I personally haven't heard big differences among products in this range. With that said I did notice some people complain that Yamaha AVRs have especially poor preout signal strength so if adding an amp down the road is a possibility, then maybe avoid yamaha. But that said, my denon has bad preouts too, every AVR is different and im skeptical about brand-wide blanket statements... the best way to expand to separates is the prepro route, anything else is stopgap imo.
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Has anyone listened to the infinity r263 towers and compared them to the jbl 580
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thank you , but i m looking at something lower thn $500 , as i only have 5.1 setup for now, what i have noticed is , more thn quality all AVRs are expensive due to wireless options or connectivity in general. lets say i want the best "audio and video quality" 5.1 AVR , and i care less about it has wifi or not.
Best option audio quality wise is to use a separate power amp plus processor combo. Companies like monoprice, outlaw and emotiva makes pretty good 5 channel amps. You will have to use the rca out from your current receiver to a power amp. Eventually upgrade to a stand alone pre/ processor.
I think the outlaw amps are made by ATI and they are well regarded.

https://outlawaudio.com/shop/inde...er=product
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