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If you want to fully cover Greys then I gotta say: Why not go with the full bottles of $3 Revlon, normal 2 part hair color kit, w/conditioner packet too. Buy it fresh; at your stuff mart or wherever. They sell a lot; but hair color lasts up to 3 years. If cool, in the dark and air tight...

The new Revlon formula($3 one) now has oils; that pros use. Those PREVENT the most damage (like the used doll hair look). This will last up to two months (SO HAIR STAYS Healthier WITH MILD STUFF, LESS OFTEN). Also known to be one of the longest lasting. And Use color-safe shampoo/conditioner. They really work. The kit a minimum of a month; if you wash it everyday. You can get 2 months before needing any reapplication. That cheap, the least process, the least harm and best total process and mainly results. A shot of Dry shampoo does wonders and can help extend; if you get a good one. Burns may start showing a growing-under(like shortest side burns), and show a little Grey in a month anyway; so it works out well. 25m every month or two is THE DEAL. Make sure your whole Gray patch is saturated, with the well stirred stuff. Comb it in different ways to get dry hairs and you can just use an old tooth brush; to apply it. Don't rub you skin or especially any bumps or scratches too hard. Wait until healed, if any kind of redness issue before you start.

The Revlon $3 Stuff smells way better and does not turn soot black, freaking you out like the air stuff. It just looks ONE shade darker as wet, at the END of the directed time. Nor, does it start with that 10m air active/effective countdown, as soon as the goop is squeezed out. Hair color generally would work up till about an hour(too long), so any 20+5m(think Greys) before an hour should work, with non-air activated stuff. By going 20m instead of 10m it then does practically no harm, opening up the strands; that the conditioner closes back down and protects. It's twice as gentle. It looks like your hair is in better shape after you follow all directions. Start a timer (phone?) AND note the time when you are about to start. A count down timer can be used. Remember to NOT forget to start the timer; AFTER you get the mix saturated the hair section. And if you forget the timer you can go by the actual time you noted beforehand, as a backup. You do not have to apply it overly fast, or to slowly. Just don't waste time and variable will not be significant. Do it the same way each time and you will know exactly how it works out for you.

If any of this concerns you then just time a lock or your hair first and note YOUR exact timing, assuming all else is the same. It's science (technique).

Please follow ALL directions; but you can mix just 5ml + 5ml of the developer instead, for only side burns, Grey coverage.

Advice: Maybe its best to do complete Grey patches on a different day from mixed lower % of Grey, in your regular color sections. Or just do not color all your non-full-Grey mixed hairs, at all.

I'll tell you how to REALLY match below.

Maybe you just want the Grey parts out. But in exception then you could tone over the rest of your whole head (for coolness or warmth TONE) for the last 1/3 of the directed count down, if the tone wouldn't otherwise match.

Less than 50% Interleaved Grey sections definitely need 1 shade lighter (or half lighter) than the non-Grey would be. Leaving the former mixed Greys as the next half shade up from your non-Grey hairs looks great. Dimensional. Natural.

How to pick:
LOOK at the hair boxes/pics on THE BACK/SIDE of the box kit. If your non Grey hair strands do not match any of the 3 before pictures then guess what? You will not get any of the after pictures. And note when you do; then that probably will not be the one on the top and front of the boxes.

Note: Look at all the before pictures on numerous kits and note the level or range they are calling them (Because the numbers for levels are all of the place; with different brands.) Then you can see sudo-matches of the level and the tone they are talking about; on differently done coloured pictures of hair patches. Noting some of the lighter strands are just highlight reflected highlights in brighter sun type daylight. Such as an all 100% white strand or two. Ignore those. Al these picture are keyed on full daylight, bright lighting. So standardize on daylight and get your some "Daylight" temp light bulbs, and an array of them about 60W equivalent ones(LEDs). But in store light they all compare under that temperature. So you may have to note your non-grey hair match under that same light (temp and brightness).

And if you see for example what what's "Light brown" (lets say all "ASH" or COOL tones in this case, of the "Light Brown's" before shots, and not the "Light (golden/warm) Brown" or not Neutral/unspecified tones then you don't want to confuse those with light level.

Another example is "Dark (whatever same tone) Blonde" this level BTW being analogous to middle Grey, this LEVEL has equal black and white % LIGHT level. As if it were seen in B&W. And note ASH/COOL may appear or register with most people (in different lighting) as slightly darker looking than Dark (warmer) Blonde would.

You should not normally do like the ladies, who want to drastically change their hair level; over 1 level or 2 max. Stay 0 level away (to your non-Greys); if you can. This is where all the jokes and stigma of a guy colouring his hair gets stupid. Now you can do wild stuff; but this theory is for making guys look look they have NOT coloured there hair. Which in our strange world of everybody going their own bad way; ironically hair coloring is what bad for guys? Science has proved there is NO real ladies vs. guys hair color. Just different MANY types, no matter who's on the box. The dominate feature of Mens hair color is it cost a lot more, for a lot less. i think it's cool we can take advantage of "womens" hair color kits, for much less, and then do just side burns (5ml+5ml dev mixed) about 10 times with one $3 box, with conditioner! And the Revlon <$3 stuff (color and dev formulas) are easy to measure out! (Don't use metal containers). Just close the rest air tight immediately, and store it well.

So if you got blue veins showing then only get Ash/Cool tone kits. It's like a negative thing. It only works if your before hair is ash, see? The Revlon (<$3) Dark Ash Blonde kit (#60 I think) though it very unusual, as it's warmer than it should be. It might be find on 100 grey areas only; but on non-Grey it is not really very cool. But that one kit i the only one I have even noted to be somewhat not as stated. FYI. The point was even acurate "Dark Blonde" is "Dark Neutral Blonde" (Subjective "Beige" BTW is between Neutral/unspecified and Ash tones) for example and will muck-up real Dark Ash Blonde. As even "Light (so neutral) Brown" would be to warm of a tone for your real Light Ash Brown.

If you're some % grey; then full Grey coverage at your otherwise non-Grey level would seem darker. That's another reason to pick lighter (% grey mixes can look lighter), rather than the darker choice, when narrowing it down to two closest matches.

AND if you are sure you're right in the middle, between levels and can not find that half-level like "Lightest (whatever matching tone) brown" then the Revlon stuff is super easy to mix 50/50. And so effectively cost the same. Almost nothing!

ASK a hair dresser (or two) what exact level and tone you are. No I am not a fan of going to the expensive hair salon. They get it right only half the time. And you should be concerned about where you hair will be when it need another round. I do think some spouses are an awesome help. With team work. You must be sure about your level and tone Many Pictures online may be not calibrated (to a sane white balance) and monitors do vary a lot also. So you can't go by or match to that.

I'm not against temporary hair color you can wash out; if you want to try something new; but that acts differently, and no one want to do that after every shampoo. AND some of that stuff doesn't really wash out, for days! So verify a washable one if you want to use it too see if it works. Like you may think you have it figured out and get a little to dark. Temporary color is cool (I mean great it can wash out) then.

Actual temp, and also demi(short timed) color runs warm, due to how they work (blue color molecules are bigger, stick in last and fall out first.) So ash hair color seekers need to consider permanent color, and ONLY using ash/cool kits, or ANYTHING else. And stay closest to your non-grey level.

Note that non-Gray hair gets darker about every decade. You probably will not look natural going back to lighter, more than decade or two. AKA 0, 1 or 2 max levels. And if going darker than what your non-Grey would NOW be (which is harder to fix!) then still within a level or two.

Hair grows about a half centimeter (half dime width) a month. So think of your first root half centimeter, and then each half, month by month. Out to whatever length.

Even guys with the shortest hair styles may typically leave it long, over 2 inches in the front. And that's over 5 centimeters or 10+ months! So 5 to 10 Grey covering treatments; where you DO NOT want to ADD UP damage. See. Use conditioner before salt water, or chlorine pools. Go easy on heat washing and blow drying. Do a dang hair mask a few days before coloring, it's just better conditioner! Protiens (like keritin) and certain oils (coconates, taht are acidic balanced). The stuff is cheap if you find a good one. It's no big deal to have stuff in your hair while shaving/trimming.

You got:
1. Real Temporary.
1? Lying "Temporary"
1? Some call their product "semi" so who knows.

2. You have Demi's; which only darkens and does not fully cover greys, or stay cool at all.
And demi's are only Dark (too warm) Blonde and lower light levels.

3. Then "permanent" a complete natural color replacement color; but eventually fades to a warmer toned hair color. Dye still not faded can mix with your new kit! So "permanent" does not "last" over 2 mos and roots still grow in. Permanent type is called "Level 3" technically. A level of formula type, and not the light level there. So basically 2 is Demi AKA "touch of Gray", and in-between temporary and permanent hair color.
Today you have many no ammonia types of "level 3". Like L'Oreal kits, last well; but are expensive, and the $3 Revlon has caught up.

Kits can be had cheaper than buying separate dye(color and ammonia substitute, oil and more) and developer(cream peroxide formula mix).

Oh yeah. Go by your roots (non-Grey) color (in bright Daylight); because roots are usually the darkest of your hair; even when mostly the same. Sun (Water, cleansers, salt water, heat) lightens out to the ends to some degree. The box kits are based on your root color and tone. Plus you can apply roots first or ends first, while streaking in slight low lights or highlights. But DO NOT get creative with timing. Don't short an area or especially go to long, UNLESS per directions your adding the allotted extra time for Greys(first), or just toning hair for 1/3 the time that almost doesn't need to change and where it already needs to be. Don't just keep colouring everything; when it doesn't need it. It can build up as to intense.

Don't mess up; but if you do as a newbie then it's like you have one chance, to do a proper fix. Usually you have to just wait. A darker demi alone might be a fix (for much to light). Especially if you mess up (or just not quite perfect) for two times. Then STOP. Maybe use temp color for a month FIRST. But I tell you how to not mess up, the first time. Anyone can do it; but you can't guess!

When and if also colouring non-Greys, it may be best to think about, know and remember; that being just slightly darker, right when done, and also yet just slightly too light in 1 or 2 months later, is when you can do it again. So target a slightly cooler tone! It will be perfect in the between. Fine enough at start and restart. And if your redoing is a different "before picture"; then you might match a different kit. Because you HAVE to be the before picture, then too, to get the after one; on the box!

Kits are made/targeted to uncoloured hair standards. Which is also previously coloured hair needing a refresh, after some months, and it works out. Same thing with slightly cooler, on day one and slightly too warm when time for a redo.

That's very manageable at $3 a box, and 25m every 2 months.

No there is NOTHING wrong with Grey hair. I just prefer all or not. Not generally mixed or sections. With some exceptions of course. Even then you can control WHERE. See?

The general public has a serious problem being cruel to guys about covering Greys. While at the same time they like pink-florescent or numerous colors of un-natural looking hair on women. Ladies muck up their hair all the time. It's (relatively) fun to them. The truth is the over all health of your stands overrides any color fixes. So do the LEAST damage. Which means you have to know the stuff above. It's like photography. It's a way deeper understanding (science) to do right, than it first seems. The boxes do not just magically give you the box top results. It's not like ice cream and trying everything. It highly depends on where you start. Level. Tone. The BEFORE picture. Be wise.

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Thanks for the lecture. Your wisdom dwarfs that of us mere mortals.
Could some of you beta males please stop telling other men not to dye their hair? Let them do them and you do you. stop worrying about what other men do. this is very clearly about hair dye for men, and if you are against it why in the heck did you click on this just to make a comment for other men not to do it? Pure beta worried about other men
If you want to fully cover Greys then I gotta say: Why not go with the full bottles of $3 Revlon, normal 2 part hair color kit, w/conditioner packet too. Buy it fresh; at your stuff mart or wherever. They sell a lot; but hair color lasts up to 3 years. If cool, in the dark and air tight...

The new Revlon formula($3 one) now has oils; that pros use. Those PREVENT the most damage (like the used doll hair look). This will last up to two months (SO HAIR STAYS Healthier WITH MILD STUFF, LESS OFTEN). Also known to be one of the longest lasting. And Use color-safe shampoo/conditioner. They really work. The kit a minimum of a month; if you wash it everyday. You can get 2 months before needing any reapplication. That cheap, the least process, the least harm and best total process and mainly results. A shot of Dry shampoo does wonders and can help extend; if you get a good one. Burns may start showing a growing-under(like shortest side burns), and show a little Grey in a month anyway; so it works out well. 25m every month or two is THE DEAL. Make sure your whole Gray patch is saturated, with the well stirred stuff. Comb it in different ways to get dry hairs and you can just use an old tooth brush; to apply it. Don't rub you skin or especially any bumps or scratches too hard. Wait until healed, if any kind of redness issue before you start.

The Revlon $3 Stuff smells way better and does not turn soot black, freaking you out like the air stuff. It just looks ONE shade darker as wet, at the END of the directed time. Nor, does it start with that 10m air active/effective countdown, as soon as the goop is squeezed out. Hair color generally would work up till about an hour(too long), so any 20+5m(think Greys) before an hour should work, with non-air activated stuff. By going 20m instead of 10m it then does practically no harm, opening up the strands; that the conditioner closes back down and protects. It's twice as gentle. It looks like your hair is in better shape after you follow all directions. Start a timer (phone?) AND note the time when you are about to start. A count down timer can be used. Remember to NOT forget to start the timer; AFTER you get the mix saturated the hair section. And if you forget the timer you can go by the actual time you noted beforehand, as a backup. You do not have to apply it overly fast, or to slowly. Just don't waste time and variable will not be significant. Do it the same way each time and you will know exactly how it works out for you.

If any of this concerns you then just time a lock or your hair first and note YOUR exact timing, assuming all else is the same. It's science (technique).

Please follow ALL directions; but you can mix just 5ml + 5ml of the developer instead, for only side burns, Grey coverage.

Advice: Maybe its best to do complete Grey patches on a different day from mixed lower % of Grey, in your regular color sections. Or just do not color all your non-full-Grey mixed hairs, at all.

I'll tell you how to REALLY match below.

Maybe you just want the Grey parts out. But in exception then you could tone over the rest of your whole head (for coolness or warmth TONE) for the last 1/3 of the directed count down, if the tone wouldn't otherwise match.

Less than 50% Interleaved Grey sections definitely need 1 shade lighter (or half lighter) than the non-Grey would be. Leaving the former mixed Greys as the next half shade up from your non-Grey hairs looks great. Dimensional. Natural.

How to pick: LOOK at the hair boxes/pics on THE BACK/SIDE of the box kit. If your non Grey hair strands do not match any of the 3 before pictures then guess what? You will not get any of the after pictures. And note when you do; then that probably will not be the one on the top and front of the boxes.

Note: Look at all the before pictures on numerous kits and note the level or range they are calling them (Because the numbers for levels are all of the place; with different brands.) Then you can see sudo-matches of the level and the tone they are talking about; on differently done coloured pictures of hair patches. Noting some of the lighter strands are just highlight reflected highlights in brighter sun type daylight. Such as an all 100% white strand or two. Ignore those. Al these picture are keyed on full daylight, bright lighting. So standardize on daylight and get your some "Daylight" temp light bulbs, and an array of them about 60W equivalent ones(LEDs). But in store light they all compare under that temperature. So you may have to note your non-grey hair match under that same light (temp and brightness).

And if you see for example what what's "Light brown" (lets say all "ASH" or COOL tones in this case, of the "Light Brown's" before shots, and not the "Light (golden/warm) Brown" or not Neutral/unspecified tones then you don't want to confuse those with light level.

Another example is "Dark (whatever same tone) Blonde" this level BTW being analogous to middle Grey, this LEVEL has equal black and white % LIGHT level. As if it were seen in B&W. And note ASH/COOL may appear or register with most people (in different lighting) as slightly darker looking than Dark (warmer) Blonde would.

You should not normally do like the ladies, who want to drastically change their hair level; over 1 level or 2 max. Stay 0 level away (to your non-Greys); if you can. This is where all the jokes and stigma of a guy colouring his hair gets stupid. Now you can do wild stuff; but this theory is for making guys look look they have NOT coloured there hair. Which in our strange world of everybody going their own bad way; ironically hair coloring is what bad for guys? Science has proved there is NO real ladies vs. guys hair color. Just different MANY types, no matter who's on the box. The dominate feature of Mens hair color is it cost a lot more, for a lot less. i think it's cool we can take advantage of "womens" hair color kits, for much less, and then do just side burns (5ml+5ml dev mixed) about 10 times with one $3 box, with conditioner! And the Revlon <$3 stuff (color and dev formulas) are easy to measure out! (Don't use metal containers). Just close the rest air tight immediately, and store it well.

So if you got blue veins showing then only get Ash/Cool tone kits. It's like a negative thing. It only works if your before hair is ash, see? The Revlon (<$3) Dark Ash Blonde kit (#60 I think) though it very unusual, as it's warmer than it should be. It might be find on 100 grey areas only; but on non-Grey it is not really very cool. But that one kit i the only one I have even noted to be somewhat not as stated. FYI. The point was even acurate "Dark Blonde" is "Dark Neutral Blonde" (Subjective "Beige" BTW is between Neutral/unspecified and Ash tones) for example and will muck-up real Dark Ash Blonde. As even "Light (so neutral) Brown" would be to warm of a tone for your real Light Ash Brown.

If you're some % grey; then full Grey coverage at your otherwise non-Grey level would seem darker. That's another reason to pick lighter (% grey mixes can look lighter), rather than the darker choice, when narrowing it down to two closest matches.

AND if you are sure you're right in the middle, between levels and can not find that half-level like "Lightest (whatever matching tone) brown" then the Revlon stuff is super easy to mix 50/50. And so effectively cost the same. Almost nothing!

ASK a hair dresser (or two) what exact level and tone you are. No I am not a fan of going to the expensive hair salon. They get it right only half the time. And you should be concerned about where you hair will be when it need another round. I do think some spouses are an awesome help. With team work. You must be sure about your level and tone Many Pictures online may be not calibrated (to a sane white balance) and monitors do vary a lot also. So you can't go by or match to that.

I'm not against temporary hair color you can wash out; if you want to try something new; but that acts differently, and no one want to do that after every shampoo. AND some of that stuff doesn't really wash out, for days! So verify a washable one if you want to use it too see if it works. Like you may think you have it figured out and get a little to dark. Temporary color is cool (I mean great it can wash out) then.

Actual temp, and also demi(short timed) color runs warm, due to how they work (blue color molecules are bigger, stick in last and fall out first.) So ash hair color seekers need to consider permanent color, and ONLY using ash/cool kits, or ANYTHING else. And stay closest to your non-grey level.

Note that non-Gray hair gets darker about every decade. You probably will not look natural going back to lighter, more than decade or two. AKA 0, 1 or 2 max levels. And if going darker than what your non-Grey would NOW be (which is harder to fix!) then still within a level or two.

Hair grows about a half centimeter (half dime width) a month. So think of your first root half centimeter, and then each half, month by month. Out to whatever length.

Even guys with the shortest hair styles may typically leave it long, over 2 inches in the front. And that's over 5 centimeters or 10+ months! So 5 to 10 Grey covering treatments; where you DO NOT want to ADD UP damage. See. Use conditioner before salt water, or chlorine pools. Go easy on heat washing and blow drying. Do a dang hair mask a few days before coloring, it's just better conditioner! Protiens (like keritin) and certain oils (coconates, taht are acidic balanced). The stuff is cheap if you find a good one. It's no big deal to have stuff in your hair while shaving/trimming.

You got:
1. Real Temporary.
1? Lying "Temporary"
1? Some call their product "semi" so who knows.

2. You have Demi's; which only darkens and does not fully cover greys, or stay cool at all.
And demi's are only Dark (too warm) Blonde and lower light levels.

3. Then "permanent" a complete natural color replacement color; but eventually fades to a warmer toned hair color. Dye still not faded can mix with your new kit! So "permanent" does not "last" over 2 mos and roots still grow in. Permanent type is called "Level 3" technically. A level of formula type, and not the light level there. So basically 2 is Demi AKA "touch of Gray", and in-between temporary and permanent hair color.
Today you have many no ammonia types of "level 3". Like L'Oreal kits, last well; but are expensive, and the $3 Revlon has caught up.

Kits can be had cheaper than buying separate dye(color and ammonia substitute, oil and more) and developer(cream peroxide formula mix).

Oh yeah. Go by your roots (non-Grey) color (in bright Daylight); because roots are usually the darkest of your hair; even when mostly the same. Sun (Water, cleansers, salt water, heat) lightens out to the ends to some degree. The box kits are based on your root color and tone. Plus you can apply roots first or ends first, while streaking in slight low lights or highlights. But DO NOT get creative with timing. Don't short an area or especially go to long, UNLESS per directions your adding the allotted extra time for Greys(first), or just toning hair for 1/3 the time that almost doesn't need to change and where it already needs to be. Don't just keep colouring everything; when it doesn't need it. It can build up as to intense.

Don't mess up; but if you do as a newbie then it's like you have one chance, to do a proper fix. Usually you have to just wait. A darker demi alone might be a fix (for much to light). Especially if you mess up (or just not quite perfect) for two times. Then STOP. Maybe use temp color for a month FIRST. But I tell you how to not mess up, the first time. Anyone can do it; but you can't guess!

When and if also colouring non-Greys, it may be best to think about, know and remember; that being just slightly darker, right when done, and also yet just slightly too light in 1 or 2 months later, is when you can do it again. So target a slightly cooler tone! It will be perfect in the between. Fine enough at start and restart. And if your redoing is a different "before picture"; then you might match a different kit. Because you HAVE to be the before picture, then too, to get the after one; on the box!

Kits are made/targeted to uncoloured hair standards. Which is also previously coloured hair needing a refresh, after some months, and it works out. Same thing with slightly cooler, on day one and slightly too warm when time for a redo.

That's very manageable at $3 a box, and 25m every 2 months.

No there is NOTHING wrong with Grey hair. I just prefer all or not. Not generally mixed or sections. With some exceptions of course. Even then you can control WHERE. See?

The general public has a serious problem being cruel to guys about covering Greys. While at the same time they like pink-florescent or numerous colors of un-natural looking hair on women. Ladies muck up their hair all the time. It's (relatively) fun to them. The truth is the over all health of your stands overrides any color fixes. So do the LEAST damage. Which means you have to know the stuff above. It's like photography. It's a way deeper understanding (science) to do right, than it first seems. The boxes do not just magically give you the box top. It's not like ice cream and trying everything. It highly depends on where you start. Level. Tone. The BEFORE picture. Be wise.

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Bro, just be gray. Don't be a man that colors your hair. Everyone can tell if you do, don't fool yourself. Everyone can tell.

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I use the grey blend of this stuff and it works great. It looks natural and knocks off a good 5-10 years, but once I get a haircut it looks bad and I need another touch up. I can't wait til it's just grey and I don't need to color it anymore and be like Jorge Clooney.
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Not true at all.

Maybe you can infer for 60 or 70 year olds. That's different.
If you don't have lines and wrinkles on your face, you may be able to get away with it. Otherwise, don't go cheap, my GF is showing gray at roots, her colorist suggested she highlight and colorblend with grey, it looks great! Luckily i found a great barber that also does hair coloring for men.
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This comb-in version color doesn't last as good as the mixing (color mixed with developer) version. I have used both.
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Does this work on all hair? Like downstairs? I kinda want to turn mine red just for giggles.
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Quote from cizastro
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Does this work on all hair? Like downstairs? I kinda want to turn mine red just for giggles.
Do it and let us know
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