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I would say if you really want MacBook, get one with at least 256GB storage. 128GB is kind of not enough nowadays, unless you use it like a kid laptop for basic web browsing and office.

Personally, I used to be a fan of Apple MacBook. However, I have to switch my main machine to a Windows laptop and just use the MacBook Pro like a backup due to their hardware issues in the last couple years.
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I would say if you really want MacBook, get one with at least 256GB storage. 128GB is kind of not enough nowadays, unless you use it like a kid laptop for basic web browsing and office.

Personally, I used to be a fan of Apple MacBook. However, I have to switch my main machine to a Windows laptop and just use the MacBook Pro like a backup due to their hardware issues in the last couple years.
apple macbook's are a joke

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You can get a much better windows laptop for similar price new and more secure OS.

a simple search for most vulnerable OS will tell you to stay away.

https://www.techradar.com/news/wi...ally-linux [techradar.com]
I think you need to read the source article. It does not say that OSX is more vulnerable than Windows, it is less.

From 1999-2019 OSX had 2212 vulnerabilities. OSX came out in 1999, so that is 20 years of vulnerabilities.

Windows 7 and Win 10 have 2,394 combined. Win 7 came out in 2009, so that represents only 10 years! MS is literally is twice as vulnerable. LOL.

Plus, if you look at just 2019, which is the most recent and relevant, OSX doesn't even make this list.

Stop spreading misinformation.

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You can get a much better windows laptop for similar price new and more secure OS.

a simple search for most vulnerable OS will tell you to stay away.

https://www.techradar.com/news/wi...ally-linux
There is a problem with this list, not that i would expect you to care. Looking at the 1999-2019, OSX has a total vulnerability number of 2,212. OSX came out in 1999, so that represents the enirety of that time. If you add Windows 10 and Windows 7 together you get 2,394. Obviously, a higher number - BUT, Windows 7 came out in 2009. Vista isn't listed here, so that number essesntially compates 20 years of OSX to 10 years of M$ Windows - and Apple still has less.

So Windows is not more secure, but hey critical thinking is hard. Plus, if you look at just the relevant info for 2019, OSX doesn't even make the list.
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There is a problem with this list, not that i would expect you to care. Looking at the 1999-2019, OSX has a total vulnerability number of 2,212. OSX came out in 1999, so that represents the enirety of that time. If you add Windows 10 and Windows 7 together you get 2,394. Obviously, a higher number - BUT, Windows 7 came out in 2009. Vista isn't listed here, so that number essesntially compates 20 years of OSX to 10 years of M$ Windows - and Apple still has less.

So Windows is not more secure, but hey critical thinking is hard. Plus, if you look at just the relevant info for 2019, OSX doesn't even make the list.

I know it's hard, I can tell by your reaction.

If I purchased a system today I would not get windows vista, 7 or 8 on my system. And your also not thinking why Windows is such a large target. The windows platform has 2 billion plus users and MacOS has maybe, maybe 50 million(?) Just imagine that was the dominant OS. Find one star that has naked photos on the web due to windows or onedrive security flaws, but there sure are plenty from the Apple platforms.

Do yourself a favor, don't compare MacOS to a mature OS, there is no winning avenue.

Have a nice day!
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I know it's hard, I can tell by your reaction.

If I purchased a system today I would not get windows vista, 7 or 8 on my system. And your also not thinking why Windows is such a large target. The windows platform has 2 billion plus users and MacOS has maybe, maybe 50 million(?) Just imagine that was the dominant OS. Find one star that has naked photos on the web due to windows or onedrive security flaws, but there sure are plenty from the Apple platforms.

Do yourself a favor, don't compare MacOS to a mature OS, there is no winning avenue.

Have a nice day!
It was a discussion on security and amount of vulnerabilities, you were wrong. What do I care about installed user base? Except for the fact that Windows is a larger target and has more malware, viruses, and vulnerabilities. Surely, it's more secure ... lol.


As for your first sentence, you do realize the MacOS on a system today is different than one ten years ago? What does naming scheme matter? Windows is Windows.

Nice anecdote about celebs, because surely easily guessed passwords are the same thing as OS vulnerabilities. Stay on point, quit moving the goal posts. You were wrong, the link that you used refutes your statement.
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It was a discussion on security and amount of vulnerabilities, you were wrong. What do I care about installed user base? Except for the fact that Windows is a larger target and has more malware, viruses, and vulnerabilities. Surely, it's more secure ... lol.


As for your first sentence, you do realize the MacOS on a system today is different than one ten years ago? What does naming scheme matter? Windows is Windows.

Nice anecdote about celebs, because surely easily guessed passwords are the same thing as OS vulnerabilities. Stay on point, quit moving the goal posts. You were wrong, the link that you used refutes your statement.
I stayed on point. Both cloud services allow similar password protocols and I doubt very much some "guessed" a password. The fact that Microsoft is now the leading cloud service says a lot about their security.

Todays Windows has less vulnerabilities than todays MacOS. The simple reason being Microsoft regularly releases updates and Apple does not. You can go months with vulnerabilities on MacOS, but not on Windows platform. The delays on vulnerability patches being delayed on MS ecosystem is extremely rare.

What is even more comical is when Apple built their stores around the world, their servers were not apache, they were Dell Windows servers.

We don't even want to get into backwards compatibility do you?

Lick your wounds and move on.
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I stayed on point. Both cloud services allow similar password protocols and I doubt very much some "guessed" a password. The fact that Microsoft is now the leading cloud service says a lot about their security.

===Just like McDonalds has the most popular hamburger, so it must be the best. Got it. lol.

Todays Windows has less vulnerabilities than todays MacOS. The simple reason being Microsoft regularly releases updates and Apple does not. You can go months with vulnerabilities on MacOS, but not on Windows platform. The delays on vulnerability patches being delayed on MS ecosystem is extremely rare.

===Not according to the article you linked. But hey, I guess we are off that now. Your statement is not true. Windows has more vulnerabilities. The article that you linked said so.===

What is even more comical is when Apple built their stores around the world, their servers were not apache, they were Dell Windows servers.

===Apache doesn't make servers, it's a Linuc distro. Plus, I don't care -- OSX isn't built for the server market. This is not pertinient to the discussion on consumer laptop OS, totally different market. Again, stop miving the goal posts ===

We don't even want to get into backwards compatibility do you?

===I thought you were worried about vulnerabilities? I guess not, move the discussion again when you were proven wrong. What backwards compatibility are you talking about? You mean the move to 64 bit? I thought you were worried about vulnerabilities. 64 bit is the future. Dope.===

Lick your wounds and move on.

===Not even close. LOL!!!!!! You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about.===


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Silent guilt is right, stop the nonsense. There's no IT person on the planet that's going to agree that MacOS is a more vulnerable platform than windows. I'm sorry, that's just not the way it is. And it makes no difference all the nonsense facts you try to quote, like user base numbers, they don't make a platform more or less inherently secure.

all that said, if you were to spec out exact same spec MacBooks and windows PC's, the MacBooks will run faster. They are a closed OS, they control their hardware incredibly well and are highly optimized for the types of tasks expected. If you're not a gamer, a MacBook will generally run most things better. That's why whenever one of these deals pops up people who use both platforms try and advise the slick user base That these specs will be good for most people. If you're a windows user, these specs might look light, but those running macOS know they are more than adequate for most people. So unless you're a Heavy layered photoshop person, Or a huge video editor, you'll be happy. 128 is not a lot of Storage, but then again, that's all changing too with cloud services, so I don't know what the right size is anymore for local storage. You probably can make 128 work if you really stream everything instead of download.
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