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It's all about use case, right? And specifically, it's about bandwidth.

TB3 with a short passive cable (~0.5m) or a longer active cable (mine is 2m and cost me $60) will let your system push about 40Gb/s on that bus. For reference, USB 3.2 on a type-C cable is something like a max 20Gb/s assuming your device has that version, otherwise it's more likely 5-10Gb/s for USB 3.0/3.1 respectively.

A single 4K @ 60 fps stream takes up around 15Gb/s (I've seen figures range from 14-16). So if you have a dual monitor setup w/ dual 4K@60 (or even a single 5K@60 which is about 22Gb/s), you are going to eat up a healthy bit of your bandwidth just with video. Figure in GbE wired connection so you don't have to do your daily backup to your NAS over WiFi... and some extra Gb/s for your external SSD where you keep those high resolution videos of your cat that you edit on that 5K monitor of yours... and then whatever bandwidth is left gets to go towards your webcams (online meetings) and other peripherals.

Oh, and it supports charging while all that other stuff is going on.

This is less about the casual user and more about specific use cases for desktop replacements.

There's also a history of compatibility issues with USB docks. It's only lately that they're more common and standardized. That isn't to say TB3 hasn't ever had those issues, but they seem to be less prevalent.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089M7W...kFb9Y11WV2

This is what I am referring to. You are right about use cases. I agree, if you need dual 4k 60hz, you need TB3 to be the interface. But I am doing office work and this worka great as a much lower price point alternative. It's not a USB dock, it actually uses your laptop charger and charges along with everything else most TB3 do.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089M7W...kFb9Y11WV2 [amazon.com]

This is what I am referring to. You are right about use cases. I agree, if you need dual 4k 60hz, you need TB3 to be the interface. But I am doing office work and this worka great as a much lower price point alternative. It's not a USB dock, it actually uses your laptop charger and charges along with everything else most TB3 do.
I agree with your assessment for your use case, not refuting any of it. In fact I keep one of those usb-c hubs around for travel and hacking on things that ought not be hacked. I just wanted to add a final few data points below...

My work laptop has a single TB3 port and a bunch of regular ports. My personal laptop has 2 TB3 ports, 1 USB-C ports and nothing else. Plenty of Macs that aren't 15"+ also fit that description. Not everything has an HDMI (or even DP) port. handy.

I also hate plugging lots of things in at once. That's just wear on the ports (quicker to degrade) and strain on the physical connections if a thick cable like HDMI doesn't flex enough on it's own.
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HP Thunderbolt 3 dock, supports 100W of power delivery, the included charger is 150W, so plenty of overhead for any peripherals plugged into the dock too. They're under $100 on ebay often, so it's a really good value solution.

In order to have two external monitors, you will need a USB-C to HDMI or display port adapter though. One monitor hooked up to one display port plug, the other hooked up to the USB-C output.

The two display port outputs just mirror each other because Apple for no apparent reason at all still does not support MST in MacOS, even though their hardware can, it works in Windows under Bootcamp.



Well the hardware does, it works in Bootcamp. It's MacOS which for no valid reason doesn't support MST.



You will see issues if you have your battery is at sub 1%. This has happened to me before, my mac decided not to sleep overnight, got to work in the morning, and I had to wait nearly an hour before it would turn on when using this TS3 dock. I returned the dock, since I can't take a risk that it won't be able to power my Macbook under all conditions.

Since getting the HP Thunderbolt 3 dock, it has no issue turning on my Macbook at 0% battery capacity, since it can deliver 100W of power. If you never let your laptop get that low, then you won't notice a difference, but there's nothing worse than being in a rush to get work done, only to be stuck waiting for the laptop to get past it's emergency reserve power level.
So the HP dock works fine with the MBP 16"? Can you provide a link to it?
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How is it? It seems a lot cheaper and I might consider getting this instead of the caldigit
Yea I wouldn't get a usbc hub. You lose out of the 40gb bandwidth tb3 gives you.
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So the HP dock works fine with the MBP 16"? Can you provide a link to it?
This is strictly an amazon link for reference, I do not suggest buying it from Amazon, it's often overpriced. Buy it from ebay, they regularly sell for under $100 with the AC adapter. New old stock is often sold, because corporations buy a bunch of these stations for every laptop, then they may sit unused for a year. Especially with all the layoffs that happened due to COVID.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Thunder...652&sr=8-2

There's also a "230W" version, which is identical, just it has an extra power adapter cable, which you can remove, and a version with a speaker built in, which is also practically identical. Keep an eye out for all three versions.

I purchased one for $50 without an AC adapter, and purchased an AC adapter for $30, so all told just under $90 with tax.
This was the auction, seller took my offer on it.
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been using this with my dell XPS 15 for a year. no problems whatsoever. it charges it well but not quite at the faster rate of the 130W original charger.
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These docking stations with only 1 display port doesn't cut it..
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One of the best dock
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I wonder how much time does an average user save daily using something like this? I understand that this is a good product and what not but the price just doesn't make sense.
It saves me a ton of time. I had originally used it with a macbook pro, it let me just plug up one cable to the mbp to charge and connect all my other hardware (capture card, raid array, drives, card readers, external monitor, etc) instead of wrangling a bunch of cables every day.
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These docking stations with only 1 display port doesn't cut it..
Then get an adapter and add another. Lol
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Good price. The issue is how to setup dual monitors with it. The only way seems to be using displayport and thunderbolt, which is a waste for the thunderbolt. And you need to buy another thunderbolt to hdmi or dp cable. For this reason, I went with the HP dock.
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I have a thunderbolt 3 dock at work. I know exactly what they do used it regularly before WFH started. Which is why I researched this so much, because I did like it. Price really isn't a problem, just can't justify it in my mind to spend 10x to get rid of one cable. And you want to compare size, the adapter I use is 1/5 the size of this. I just sit it behind the laptop screen and never see it.

You're totally missing the point of my post. You think it's a money problem, but it's a value problem. The HDMI on my X1 Carbon works at 1440p @ 60hz. You can justify your purchase to yourself all you want, but you spent 10x+ to not plug in an HDMI and take up more desk space.
Uh...yeah, no.

First off, I didn't spend a penny. Work paid for them, because work -- y'know -- "values" things like ease of use, and streamlined workflow. ​You might not value those things, but that's probably because it's (ahem) a money issue, whether you want to admit it or not. $200 for a big company to save an employee some effort? That's literally nothing. Done and done.

My point was that after using these docks, I would have gladly spent my own money because -- again, excuse me here -- I 100% see the value in them. Because my time, energy, and mental load is worth it. I plug and unplug my laptop many times a day on some days, and the idea of unplugging multiple things, worrying about the dock sliding around, or having to otherwise even think about the process is worth $210 to me. Easy. My time is valuable. My mental cycles are valuable. I should be thinking about things higher-leverage than "gotta make sure the dock stays where it should be". And amortized over hundreds of plugs and unplugs? If you don't see the value in that, hey, that's cool, but don't act like it's nuts. Money is only valuable when you spend it, and there are few things more worth spending money on than making your life simpler/less cluttered/more straightforward.

Having said all of that, if you can find me a USB dock that does the following for $21, I will gladly by a few:

1). 32" 4k Monitor at full rez/60hz
2). 25" 2k Monitor at full rez/60hz
3). Optical digital out to my receiver for audio
4). Firewire to my external audio interface (in the case of the OWC, since we're talking about the value of Tbolt3 docks in general) or USB-C connectivity (in the case of the Caldigit discussed here)
5). Ethernet
6). Full charge of my laptop
7). 5x USB:
a). 1 Logitech Unifying dongle
b). 1 USB to monitor's built in hub, to allow downstream plugability
c). 1 Razr Webcam
d). 1 micro-USB charging cable I use to charge my mouse and keyboard and other devices.
e). USB external drive (even USB-C in the case of the Caldigit)

OH BY THE WAY, I don't have to have my computer plugged in to charge the items mentioned in 7d. I can, say, grab my laptop -- only unplugging one cable! -- and take it to bed, while my devices happily charge throughout the night! (I'll note I could plug the webcam into my monitor, and then use another of the charge plugs to power my wireless iPhone charger, but hey...I don't want to be too unfair)

Also, little things like you mention that the dock takes up more space on my desk...well, mine is tucked under my monitor, and I don't think it's really bugging anyone there. But one downside of the lack of heft of USB-C docks is...their lack of heft! When you plug that many things into something light, the flex of the cables are actually heavier than the dock itself. Meaning you basically have to hold the dock down to unplug it. With a true desk-based dock, it's not going anywhere, and it doesn't move when I plug or unplug devices, including the laptop itself. Given my experience with USB-C docks, I doubt anything for $21 would be so sturdy. That kind of stuff may not be "valuable" to you but hey, trust me, it's nice.

My guess is you'll either ignore this or quote it saying there's "only a few more" things on my list that those cheaper docks can't do, and therefore a legit Tbolt3 is still a waste of money, but in the off chance you know of a $21 USB-C adapter that'll allow for everything I've mentioned, PLEASE POST IT! IT IS A RIDICULOUS SLICKDEAL!
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I had a HP Elite/ZBook THUNDERBOLT 3 DOCK left over from my last job. But I can not make it work for my macbook or my lenovo notebook. Just google the bazillon update but no nothing related. If you have experience, would you be able to share? Thanks.
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Uh...yeah, no.

First off, I didn't spend a penny. Work paid for them, because work -- y'know -- "values" things like ease of use, and streamlined workflow. ​You might not value those things, but that's probably because it's (ahem) a money issue, whether you want to admit it or not. $200 for a big company to save an employee some effort? That's literally nothing. Done and done.

My point was that after using these docks, I would have gladly spent my own money because -- again, excuse me here -- I 100% see the value in them. Because my time, energy, and mental load is worth it. I plug and unplug my laptop many times a day on some days, and the idea of unplugging multiple things, worrying about the dock sliding around, or having to otherwise even think about the process is worth $210 to me. Easy. My time is valuable. My mental cycles are valuable. I should be thinking about things higher-leverage than "gotta make sure the dock stays where it should be". And amortized over hundreds of plugs and unplugs? If you don't see the value in that, hey, that's cool, but don't act like it's nuts. Money is only valuable when you spend it, and there are few things more worth spending money on than making your life simpler/less cluttered/more straightforward.

Having said all of that, if you can find me a USB dock that does the following for $21, I will gladly by a few:

1). 32" 4k Monitor at full rez/60hz
2). 25" 2k Monitor at full rez/60hz
3). Optical digital out to my receiver for audio
4). Firewire to my external audio interface (in the case of the OWC, since we're talking about the value of Tbolt3 docks in general) or USB-C connectivity (in the case of the Caldigit discussed here)
5). Ethernet
6). Full charge of my laptop
7). 5x USB:
a). 1 Logitech Unifying dongle
b). 1 USB to monitor's built in hub, to allow downstream plugability
c). 1 Razr Webcam
d). 1 micro-USB charging cable I use to charge my mouse and keyboard and other devices.
e). USB external drive (even USB-C in the case of the Caldigit)

OH BY THE WAY, I don't have to have my computer plugged in to charge the items mentioned in 7d. I can, say, grab my laptop -- only unplugging one cable! -- and take it to bed, while my devices happily charge throughout the night! (I'll note I could plug the webcam into my monitor, and then use another of the charge plugs to power my wireless iPhone charger, but hey...I don't want to be too unfair)

Also, little things like you mention that the dock takes up more space on my desk...well, mine is tucked under my monitor, and I don't think it's really bugging anyone there. But one downside of the lack of heft of USB-C docks is...their lack of heft! When you plug that many things into something light, the flex of the cables are actually heavier than the dock itself. Meaning you basically have to hold the dock down to unplug it. With a true desk-based dock, it's not going anywhere, and it doesn't move when I plug or unplug devices, including the laptop itself. Given my experience with USB-C docks, I doubt anything for $21 would be so sturdy. That kind of stuff may not be "valuable" to you but hey, trust me, it's nice.

My guess is you'll either ignore this or quote it saying there's "only a few more" things on my list that those cheaper docks can't do, and therefore a legit Tbolt3 is still a waste of money, but in the off chance you know of a $21 USB-C adapter that'll allow for everything I've mentioned, PLEASE POST IT! IT IS A RIDICULOUS SLICKDEAL!
I plug two things into my laptop instead of one like you. Maybe you need to spend the extra so it's not too much for you.
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I plug two things into my laptop instead of one like you. Maybe you need to spend the extra so it's not too much for you.
Still waiting for a link to a $21 USB-C hub with 5x USB, SPDIF optical, 4K@60hz, Firewire or USB-C data, ethernet and charging. If you can show me one of those for $21, then that might be a good option for people who're okay with 2 cables.

Until then....
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