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And then AMD has an entire lineup coming out in October, according to rumors. But I suppose that AMD is in no hurry, considering how well their 3000 series is still doing. That and coming out with a new lineup, even if on the same node die, requires a lot of orders from TSMC, who are already overwhelmed by other companies, and other AMD products at this point.
I would put my money on AMD focusing on XBOX and Playstation production, for the 7nm foreseeable future. I would not be surprised if they skip the desktop ryzen chips, to focus on the 5000 5nm series for next year, as TSMC might have pushed them to do so.
If I didn't already have a 3700x, then I would pick up the 10700k, and be happy with that for a few years. I'm happy with what I currently have though.

Would be freekin hilarious if China develops a some 45nm gallium nitride cpu, that is many times faster than current silicon chips.
Why you think China will develop one?
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What applications or senarios does the 16mb L3 cache have a benefit over 12mb of L3 cache in the i5-10600? It has a higher multi-core benchmarks because of the 2 extra cores but I'm trying to justify it over the i5-10600.

To be clear I would get an AMD if I didn't play games a lot, run Serato DJ, or Topaz Labs Video Enhance AI. The last 2 only work on Intel processors.
Serato DJ works fine on my 3700x, Topaz lists Ryzen in it's system requirements. These processors perform about the same. The big difference is that the Intel comes with UHD 630 GPU and the Ryzen comes with none. The Ryzen is appx 40% more power efficient, TDP may be the same but actual power consumption is much higher.
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Serato DJ works fine on my 3700x, Topaz lists Ryzen in it's system requirements. These processors perform about the same. The big difference is that the Intel comes with UHD 630 GPU and the Ryzen comes with none. The Ryzen is appx 40% more power efficient, TDP may be the same but actual power consumption is much higher.
Thanks, Didn't know that. The Serato Facebook group frowns on AMD saying it's unsupported. Maybe it's for older AMD CPUs?
Edit: So older AMD cpus were a problem but not with Ryzen.
https://support.serato.com/hc/en-...processors

Maybe I misheard youtube reviews about Video Enhance AI requiring Intel or mixed it up with Serato.
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Why you think China will develop one?
They currently are, and apparently, Huawei has a powerful cpu coming out being build on the 7nm archetecture. I'm guessing they'll either fab it at TSMC in Tiawan, or SMSC on the mainland. Of course we can't do business with Huawei, but they are not the only chinese chip manufactuer. Although ahead of the rest.
Considering Gallium Nitride can be overclocked much higher than silicon can, and power usage is much less, even a processor built on a large node, would likely out perform today's silicon, providing it's architecture is good.
considering that china doesn't have their heads up their asses with patents, and has many doctorate researchers, and backed goverment research, this could be a possible what if scenario.
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$299 at MC if you have access and want more parts there. Guess it depends on if the egg charges tax for you, idk they always have for me
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Essentially the 10700 is a 9900K in the newer socket layout. Incredibly similar chip. So if a 9900K bests a 3800x then this should as well.

Intel isn't all bad. This one is one of their best options for home desktop use.
Yup, Intel is still pretty good performance wise for those who want to go that route.

The issue with Intel is that AMD has gotten close enough to Intel in single-threaded performance while excelling in multi-threaded performance along with the affordable pricing around the overall platform options (CPU/Motherboard).
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1. 2.9ghz is base block not boosted
2. Different generation. Newer CPU's do more "work" per clock cycle so 1hz gen 4 doesn't equal 1hz in gen 10 in terms of total work done by the CPU.
Very true. Newer cpu will perform better. Just check benchmarks.
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Walmart has it for $295.92
Ship and sold by Walmart.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Intel-.../256445278
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Non k? Ouch
You can still "overclock" the i7-10700 with multi-core application boost of up to 30% by changing the BCLK to 102.9 MHz and changing Max boost limits. It won't beat a Ryzen 9 3900x but it'll rival an i9-10900k. Conclusion said it wasn't worth it at $340. Maybe it is at $300?

https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...-i7-10700/

I think the TDP at full load was 185w though. I went down the cpu cooling rabbit hole to find an ice giant.

https://www.icegiantcooling.com/
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No reason to buy Intel with competing products from AMD performing better and at a lower cost.
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No reason to buy Intel with competing products from AMD performing better and at a lower cost.
Accept I've been building computers professionally for over 25 years and I was a huge AMD dealer for most of them, up until 5 years ago. Now I won't touch them. Any performance gain is offset with reliability issues. I build hundreds of systems per year and even a small percentage difference in reliability = dissatisfied clients. Motherboard/CPU cost is only a portion of overall system cost -- so if i'm buying $1000-$3000 worth of parts per system including a LEGAL OS then a $100-$300 difference in price is minuscule. We also have a full service center and we see more issues with AMD/Ryzen systems by a factor of 3x or more. Great if it works for your 1 or 2 systems -- but I have thousands in the field.
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Intel should of made the non k chips cheaper to at least match amd price wise. Intel is hoping to stay relevant and amd is gaining ground each cpu release.
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Accept I've been building computers professionally for over 25 years and I was a huge AMD dealer for most of them, up until 5 years ago. Now I won't touch them. Any performance gain is offset with reliability issues. I build hundreds of systems per year and even a small percentage difference in reliability = dissatisfied clients. Motherboard/CPU cost is only a portion of overall system cost -- so if i'm buying $1000-$3000 worth of parts per system including a LEGAL OS then a $100-$300 difference in price is minuscule. We also have a full service center and we see more issues with AMD/Ryzen systems by a factor of 3x or more. Great if it works for your 1 or 2 systems -- but I have thousands in the field.

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Just showing what you asked for. Looks better in various areas than ryzen. I have a R9 3900x but thinking of switching due to various issues this year I keep having to deal with. Intel is far better today with compatibility with parts than ryzen. Ram is the biggest annoyance. You want fast ram for ryzen but corsair, gskill, etc dont work in 8 builds I have put together. Only crucial ballistix 3600 is stable. Intel on the other hand doesnt need fast ram and doesnt care what brand you use. Just they are stuck on an older 14nm node so they are going to be limited in certain areas.
I have a ryzen 7 2700x with a gigabyte b450 board. Can't get the ram to clock at its actual spec no matter what I do, even after setting everything correctly in the bios.
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I have a ryzen 7 2700x with a gigabyte b450 board. Can't get the ram to clock at its actual spec no matter what I do, even after setting everything correctly in the bios.
For me when I had the 2700x I had to use 3200 crucial ballistix. And only two sticks. The memory controller I think is at 2933 for 2700x but also does not seem that ryzen 2nd gen likes any brand in xmp but crucial for me I have no idea why. My coworkers have got corsair to work but most likely not at xmp and with 3rd gen ryzen. How many sticks do you have, what speed, and what brand?
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