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They are terrible. User reviews are at 5.6 on Metacritic, and they admitted to blocking negative reviews while they were under 3.0. This drove the actual score higher than it should be.
By your reasoning, games like Animal Crossing are trash since that game has a 5.4 user score.

But I suppose you don't know the term "review bombing"

But it's clear why most of the naysayers don't like the game, they haven't played or didn't like the turn of events.

But you are letting go of an excellent game with top-notch graphics, gameplay, and mechanics alongside excellent soundtrack/sound.
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At first I didn't like the twist but after it plays out the gameplay is some of the best in the series and it makes the ending so good. I think this game is better than the first one after you play through the whole game. I know going on to play something like Days Gone after this one was such a let down. The gameplay is so smooth and levels with open linear is fun to move around. This game is definitely worth it at $40 or more. This was my favorite game of this generation.
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By your reasoning, games like Animal Crossing are trash since that game has a 5.4 user score.

But I suppose you don't know the term "review bombing"

But it's clear why most of the naysayers don't like the game, they haven't played or didn't like the turn of events.

But you are letting go of an excellent game with top-notch graphics, gameplay, and mechanics alongside excellent soundtrack/sound.
I can't speak on Animal Crossing, but apparently not everyone thought it was as good as you think it was. As far as the actual game we are discussing...it is horrible.
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The game is a divisive mess. On the one hand, some people didn't give a darn and just played it for more Ellie and Joel. And seemed to welcome the turn of story that came along. Others who gave a darn about the story heard the leaks or played through and decided the game wasn't worth the price of admission.

The gameplay is great, the visuals are great, but the story is very divisive. Me, I loved the first one to death, and the leaks that came out made me realize I didn't want to get this day of release.

So I sat and watched a Let's Play of it when one was available. I was glad I decided on Ghosts of Tsushima that week instead of Last of Us 2. Because I didn't like the turn of the story.
I enjoyed the first one and the second one. At first I did not welcome the turn in the story, but then I appreciated it because it is actually really good. It would have been more of the same without the turn in the story. It's a masterpiece to me
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this game is becoming like Fallout 76..

might as well make it free to play and add more micro-transactions to the online mode
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Isn't this game super woke or something
A lot of fans where hating that's prob y they dropped the price
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Didn't like the first one, positive I won't like this one. But I do hear if you liked Joel you'll hate this one.
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The game is a divisive mess. On the one hand, some people didn't give a darn and just played it for more Ellie and Joel. And seemed to welcome the turn of story that came along. Others who gave a darn about the story heard the leaks or played through and decided the game wasn't worth the price of admission.

The gameplay is great, the visuals are great, but the story is very divisive. Me, I loved the first one to death, and the leaks that came out made me realize I didn't want to get this day of release.

So I sat and watched a Let's Play of it when one was available. I was glad I decided on Ghosts of Tsushima that week instead of Last of Us 2. Because I didn't like the turn of the story.
Any criticism this game gets is a problem with the people making the criticism. I will exclude Abby's ridic physique from that list, because yes it's silly and kind of gross in a place or two. But here's what people did, they came in all emotionally invested in the original characters, embracing their good and ignoring all of their bad.

People ask me if the story is as good as TLOU1, and I say no. I tell them it's better. It challenges the gamer a lot more than the first. I had much of the same negative feelings others did at first, but it helped me analyze my own emotions and investments and biases, and by the end, I realized just how amazing everything was. Amazing and heartbreaking.
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So I greatly enjoyed the first game and pre-ordered the 2nd while purposefully ignoring leaks so I could go into it with an open mind. That being said I wouldn't recommend more than $30 on this game for anyone. I think the graphics/gameplay are great, the story is good(although polarizing for some people) but the character depth and development is god awful for 90% of the introduced characters in the game.

Some of the most insight into characters, how they feel and interact with one another and depth actually come in the flashbacks in the game which is a bit of a let down as you think it would be done in the main story. Main story wise, the antagonist Abby probably has the most character development throughout the game which can be off-putting for a lot of people but I think they did an OK job with her.

HOWEVER, the writing for characters like Dina&Lev were terrible as almost the entirety of their identity as a character stems from them being Gay/Trans. There is little else depth wise for them and little in terms of character development which makes them feel pretty empty. Other characters like Yara and in particular Jesse, are made to be likable and close to the main characters but when it comes to their
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death, the impact is no where near what you would expect for the main characters and they are almost immediately forgotten 5 mins later by both the player and main characters

-End of SPOILERS-

There are other examples but it just feels like most of the characters in the game are much much more shallow than the previous game. The game has other flaws story wise with a bit too much of a political agenda showing through at times but overall will definitely move you to love it or hate it(which is an accomplishment).

In the end I liked the game despite its shortcomings but felt that it could have been so much better with a bit more character depth, polish to the story/pacing, and maybe some more time with Joel in the beginning of the story for fans of the original game. I would give this game an honest 7/10 if I had to rate it but don't spend more than $30 on it IMO.
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Free tide pod with purchase.
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Thesbian simulator
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is BestBuy gonna price match it?

they had it for $50 for last few days,
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I will wait till it hits 20.
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Isn't this game super woke or something
Define woke. It took risks in the story, but nothing about the game was woke. I can see why the story is divisive, but again there is nothing woke about it.
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