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I'm not OP, but I do have two of these kits. I paid the same on Amazon a few weeks ago, as Newegg has them for currently.

This ram uses the fancy-pants Samsung B-Die, and each stick is single-side single-rank. Don't quote me on this, but as best as I can tell from my research, these are the same sticks of ram that appear in the G.Skill F4-3200C14Q-32GFX kit.

The ideal setup is two kits (four sticks total) in a T-Topology mainboard. I have two kits running stable in my daily driver rig at 3800MHz 15-15-15-32 TRFC 330 TREFI 60000 @ 1.45V, with many other timings tightened up quite nicely. My mainboard is a T-Topology Z390 Aorus Pro with a 9600K 4.9GHz@1.325V. I feel like these sticks could go faster, but the IMC in the 9600K isn't known to be great at handling really fast ram.

Search YT for "Rambling about motherboard memory layouts." by Buildzoid for an explanation on memory topologies.

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- This memory uses the mythical Samsung B-Die that used to be $250 for 2x8gb. This memory has SO much headroom if you plan to overclock memory speeds and/or timings, for both AMD -and- Intel systems.

- For the average user: It's good memory for AMD systems, and 'okay' but not ideal memory for stock Intel systems. There is less expensive memory for those that never plan to overclock.
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this is a great price for this ram. keep mine at 3200 with tight timings but can be OCd to 3600 easily.
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For the same price I have seen 32gb. Why is that better?
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For the same price I have seen 32gb. Why is that better?
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These are guaranteed Samsung B-Dies. I have 4 x 8 GB TeamGroup B-die 3200-rated CL14 (not this ram), doing 3733 @ CL16-16-16-36 @ 1.38 volts stable on my X570 Taichi. B-die is truly fantastic! 3600 CL16-16-16-36 @ stock 1.35 volts is stable too.
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For the same price I have seen 32gb. Why is that better?
TL;DR: AMD Ryzen processors scales most effectively with memory that has very fast timings, vs Intel that scales most effectively with raw memory speed in MHz. AMD Ryzen processors only scale so far regarding MHz speed, and while that speed does make a difference, Ryzen processors -also- scale very nicely when the ram timings themselves are faster. It has to do with "Infinity Fabric", the interconnect system AMD use for communications between the CPU core groups, I/O die, and IMC/Memory. It's a fascinating read if you've time to google it.
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How good would 4 of these be with Ryzen? Buying two sets would work correct?
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Would these work well with MSI Tomahawk x570 and a Zen 3 CPU?
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Planning to go Zen 3 soon (5700X 8-core). Truthfully, how much performance gain is there getting higher quality RAM? Just a few % for gaming? I currently use Ripjaws 3600 CL16 on a 3600X.
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For the same price I have seen 32gb. Why is that better?
I'm pretty sure you are not getting CL14 for that price. This RAM is specifically for Ryzen boards specified in the title even though it may work on others. I have bought this specific memory for 3 Ryzen builds and it is flawless.

Back in 2017 I paid $175.00 for this specific memory.
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Decent deal for the OG B-die kit for AMD systems. Back in 2017, this was the go-to kit for low-latency RAM, and it cost twice as much as it does now.

One caveat: This kit is a little outdated -- now that there are kits with newer A2 PCB's spec'ed to DDR4-4000 CL17 etc. Of course, that doesn't really matter for current AMD-based systems since you'd have to manually tune/downclock it due to Zen2's 1900MHz FCLK ceiling. But moving forward, I would rather have the higher frequency RAM in anticipation of an improved Zen3 infinity fabric.
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If you want RGB, I highly recommend these: Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C14D-16GTZR https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16..._-10042020 mine can overclocked to 4000@cl15 w/o any issue. For b-die, factory rating doesn't mean too much.
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If you want RGB, I highly recommend these: Check this out on @Newegg: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model F4-3000C14D-16GTZR https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16..._-10042020 mine can overclocked to 4000@cl15 w/o any issue. For b-die, factory rating doesn't mean too much.
There usually is 2-10% headroom on overclocking ram spec and even on shitty ram it can be usually bumped a notch.. this is why they put heatsinks on them since 20+ years ago.
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