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Sony X950H 75" inch 4K TV $2350 .00 Shipped via Greentoe

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I am debating between
Costco 75" X900H - $1959_tax = 2160 (minus $78 cash back rewards)
Greentoe 75" X950H -$2350

After tax its about $200 difference

Costco comes with 7 year warranty

Greentoe has option for 5 years ($185)

if i add the 5 year warranty, it would be close to $400 difference

As for the TV itself:
x900H - Future gaming proof (HDMI 2.1)
x950H - Better movie experierice (better HDR and brighness peaks)

I am leaning toward costco TV, since it has better warranty.
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I am debating between
Costco 75" X900H - $1959_tax = 2160 (minus $78 cash back rewards)
Greentoe 75" X950H -$2350

After tax its about $200 difference

Costco comes with 7 year warranty

Greentoe has option for 5 years ($185)

if i add the 5 year warranty, it would be close to $400 difference

As for the TV itself:
x900H - Future gaming proof (HDMI 2.1)
x950H - Better movie experierice (better HDR and brighness peaks)

I am leaning toward costco TV, since it has better warranty.
With that 7 year warranty, it's hard to beat.

I game a decent amount, but personally wouldn't base my TV purchase on gaming, but that's just my personal opinion.

I'm subscribed to Consumer reports and they're stance on extended warranties is that they are not worth it the majority of the time.

If great upscaling, viewing angles, processing chip, reflection handling, and overall picture quality is more important than better gaming, get the 950H

If having the piece of mind with a provided warranty is a big priority, go with the 900h

I personally have never had an issue with any TV I bought before. Even if I did have one issue with my tv, I can't see it costing more than 400-500 ( cost of the extended 950 warranty) to fix.
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With that 7 year warranty, it's hard to beat.

I game a decent amount, but personally wouldn't base my TV purchase on gaming, but that's just my personal opinion.

I'm subscribed to Consumer reports and they're stance on extended warranties is that they are not worth it the majority of the time.

If great upscaling, viewing angles, processing chip, reflection handling, and overall picture quality is more important than better gaming, get the 950H

If having the piece of mind with a provided warranty is a big priority, go with the 900h

I personally have never had an issue with any TV I bought before. Even if I did have one issue with my tv, I can't see it costing more than 400-500 ( cost of the extended 950 warranty) to fix.
How do you get that warranty? I got a Vizio Quantum X 2019 a few months ago when it went on sale. I've just recently become a Costco member and don't know much about their warranties. Either the TV or my soundbar is having connectivity issues and I'm curious what my coverage is on the TV.
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I am debating between
Costco 75" X900H - $1959_tax = 2160 (minus $78 cash back rewards)
Greentoe 75" X950H -$2350

After tax its about $200 difference

Costco comes with 7 year warranty

Greentoe has option for 5 years ($185)

if i add the 5 year warranty, it would be close to $400 difference

As for the TV itself:
x900H - Future gaming proof (HDMI 2.1)
x950H - Better movie experierice (better HDR and brighness peaks)

I am leaning toward costco TV, since it has better warranty.
Costco Shows the TV main page model # XBR75X90CH for $1969. It has a 5 year warranty standard. To buy the tv you need to be a member ($). In order to get the 7 year and the additional savings you have to be an executive member ($) and have the Costco visa.
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I am debating between
Costco 75" X900H - $1959_tax = 2160 (minus $78 cash back rewards)
Greentoe 75" X950H -$2350

After tax its about $200 difference

Costco comes with 7 year warranty

Greentoe has option for 5 years ($185)

if i add the 5 year warranty, it would be close to $400 difference

As for the TV itself:
x900H - Future gaming proof (HDMI 2.1)
x950H - Better movie experierice (better HDR and brighness peaks)

I am leaning toward costco TV, since it has better warranty.
Bottom line is you will probably be happy with both of these sets. I'd ask yourself what you do more, Movies/TV or Gaming. Also how bright is your room? If you don't watch much in a bright room the x900h brightness deficiencies probably won't be as big of a deal. How big is your viewing room? The x950h has better viewing angles if people watch from an angle.

Also, the gaming features on these HDMI 2.1 features really are overhyped IMO. They are good changes and great to have. I just don't see the new consoles using them much.

VRR: Only works on LCDs above 48fps. This could be useful potentially but I still think we are going to be seeing most of the cinematic sony style 3rd person games being 30fps w/ ray tracing with maybe a high-performance mode at 60. I also think they are still going to have to target frame locked rates because not many people have VRR.

4k120hz: This may get utilized occasionally for a less intensive title but see comments on VRR. I really don't think this frame rate is going to be a very common thing besides maybe some early ports from last-gen and even then it's going to be a trade-off with resolution. And if you drop resolution you can potentially his 120hz on hdmi 2.0 with 1440p if your tv supports it.

Auto Low Latency Mode: This is a convenience feature. Basically, you don't have to turn on game mode.

TLDR: If you are hooking this up to a PC with a really new graphics card or planning to do so (Currently only RTX 3000 series) then the features are worth it but if you are looking at just next gen console gaming, I really don't think these features are going to be important at all.
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My room is pretty bright (lots of windows around), watching in a bright room will probably happen more during the summer day (days are longer) and I don't do much gaming anymore (kids play switch nowadays).

As for viewing angle, I don't belive there much chance to watch it from the side.

This will mainly be used for Movie watching, it does sound to me that x950H meets my need more, but is x950h worth the difference in price for x900h?

I do have costco executive and vIsa, so 7 year warranty is a peace of mind.

Also I am reading that eArc isn't yet supported on the x900H, so I want to be ready with my atmos sound system.



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Bottom line is you will probably be happy with both of these sets. I'd ask yourself what you do more, Movies/TV or Gaming. Also how bright is your room? If you don't watch much in a bright room the x900h brightness deficiencies probably won't be as big of a deal. How big is your viewing room? The x950h has better viewing angles if people watch from an angle.

Also, the gaming features on these HDMI 2.1 features really are overhyped IMO. They are good changes and great to have. I just don't see the new consoles using them much.

VRR: Only works on LCDs above 48fps. This could be useful potentially but I still think we are going to be seeing most of the cinematic sony style 3rd person games being 30fps w/ ray tracing with maybe a high-performance mode at 60. I also think they are still going to have to target frame locked rates because not many people have VRR.

4k120hz: This may get utilized occasionally for a less intensive title but see comments on VRR. I really don't think this frame rate is going to be a very common thing besides maybe some early ports from last-gen and even then it's going to be a trade-off with resolution. And if you drop resolution you can potentially his 120hz on hdmi 2.0 with 1440p if your tv supports it.

Auto Low Latency Mode: This is a convenience feature. Basically, you don't have to turn on game mode.

TLDR: If you are hooking this up to a PC with a really new graphics card or planning to do so (Currently only RTX 3000 series) then the features are worth it but if you are looking at just next gen console gaming, I really don't think these features are going to be important at all.
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FYI Greentoe pricing went down a bit:

Your last counter offer is still available: $2199.00
You have added a 5 Year extended warranty for an additional $189.99

If i skip the extended warranty i'd be at the same price as Costco's x900H (after tax)
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Anyone have experience with greentoe?
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My room is pretty bright (lots of windows around), watching in a bright room will probably happen more during the summer day (days are longer) and I don't do much gaming anymore (kids play switch nowadays).

As for viewing angle, I don't belive there much chance to watch it from the side.

This will mainly be used for Movie watching, it does sound to me that x950H meets my need more, but is x950h worth the difference in price for x900h?

I do have costco executive and vIsa, so 7 year warranty is a peace of mind.

Also I am reading that eArc isn't yet supported on the x900H, so I want to be ready with my atmos sound system.
Earc will be patched in with the rest of the 2.1 features. Earc is standard in 2.1 but supported on 2.0. Until the 900h gets its patch this winter you'd have to use regular arc. Are you planning on using arc? If you have a receiver then usually you'd run your inputs through that first and avoid arc for the best possible sound. If you have a soundbar than earc would be nice but your soundbar would have to support it too. I have heard it's not consistent on most devices and has some significant quirks that are device to device specific.
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Bottom line is you will probably be happy with both of these sets. I'd ask yourself what you do more, Movies/TV or Gaming. Also how bright is your room? If you don't watch much in a bright room the x900h brightness deficiencies probably won't be as big of a deal. How big is your viewing room? The x950h has better viewing angles if people watch from an angle.

Also, the gaming features on these HDMI 2.1 features really are overhyped IMO. They are good changes and great to have. I just don't see the new consoles using them much.

VRR: Only works on LCDs above 48fps. This could be useful potentially but I still think we are going to be seeing most of the cinematic sony style 3rd person games being 30fps w/ ray tracing with maybe a high-performance mode at 60. I also think they are still going to have to target frame locked rates because not many people have VRR.

4k120hz: This may get utilized occasionally for a less intensive title but see comments on VRR. I really don't think this frame rate is going to be a very common thing besides maybe some early ports from last-gen and even then it's going to be a trade-off with resolution. And if you drop resolution you can potentially his 120hz on hdmi 2.0 with 1440p if your tv supports it.

Auto Low Latency Mode: This is a convenience feature. Basically, you don't have to turn on game mode.

TLDR: If you are hooking this up to a PC with a really new graphics card or planning to do so (Currently only RTX 3000 series) then the features are worth it but if you are looking at just next gen console gaming, I really don't think these features are going to be important at all.
If you are a PlayStation gamer and you don't plan to buy another TV for say at least 6 or so years I would think you would want to get HDMI 2.1 especially if you're the person who typically upgrades to the eventual release of a Pro model. The PS4 Pro released 3 years after the launch PS4 and to think that you won't take advantage of HDMI 2.1 as a gamer is kind of silly. Especially since games where VRR would really matter like Call of Duty and the like have already claimed 4K 120 for the PS5. Even with ray tracing off in games like spiderman, you could probably get around 60fps and see benefits from VRR

Of course the PS5 hasn't released yet and these things haven't been tested, but I feel like it's ignorant to dismiss HDMI 2.1 so early on. Gamers need to wait for PS5 to actually release and see what all these HDMI 2.1 features have to offer especially with an expected pro PS5 releasing down the line.

However, if you're in it to buy a TV for the next 3 years then the x950h will be the better option. However, don't disregard the x900h...the HDMI 2.1/eARC capabilities will prove to be beneficial.
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If you are a PlayStation gamer and you don't plan to buy another TV for say at least 6 or so years I would think you would want to get HDMI 2.1 especially if you're the person who typically upgrades to the eventual release of a Pro model. The PS4 Pro released 3 years after the launch PS4 and to think that you won't take advantage of HDMI 2.1 as a gamer is kind of silly. Especially since games where VRR would really matter like Call of Duty and the like have already claimed 4K 120 for the PS5. Even with ray tracing off in games like spiderman, you could probably get around 60fps and see benefits from VRR

Of course the PS5 hasn't released yet and these things haven't been tested, but I feel like it's ignorant to dismiss HDMI 2.1 so early on. Gamers need to wait for PS5 to actually release and see what all these HDMI 2.1 features have to offer especially with an expected pro PS5 releasing down the line.

However, if you're in it to buy a TV for the next 3 years then the x950h will be the better option. However, don't disregard the x900h...the HDMI 2.1/eARC capabilities will prove to be beneficial.
I agree that VRR is the most important feature. COD has a 120fps mode for this version I just doubt that will be a thing as they move on to their next games. It is a good point about a pro model system but TV tech has changed so much the last 3-5 years and continues to do so there will probably be another feature you want.

I also have a hard time believing many games will be using uneven frame rates that benefit from VRR. It does happen but its not usually a good thing. In the next 3 years most people will not have a VRR capable display and I think we will still see capped frame rates and frame rate targets being the norm.

We can only wait and see and you are absolutely right. No one really knows until we get the consoles in hand and start seeing games designed for them.

The main point here is the person asking the quesiton is potentially trading features and performance they would use all the time vs things they might use for some things at a likely minimal capacity for at least the next few years.
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Anyone have experience with greentoe?
I never buy my tv other than Costco.

TV break after one year. TV come with panel issues when brand new. I know...I dragged my TV back to costco within 90 days. No hassle. No giving up my first born.

My friends sony went bad after 4 years.

Get the Costco...and pick up a hot dog and coke for 1.50 as well.
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I have not received a counter offer on the 75 or 85" x950h in 2 days....its weird. Normally I was getting a counter offer within a couple hours, now I cant get one and I've submitted several in the past 2 days. Anyone else? Anyone know what this means? I've got a counter offer on the 75 and 85 about to expire and not sure if I should accept or wait a little closer to November. Best buy just dropped their price (which means sony dropped theirs) so I was hoping that greentoe retailers would drop theirs also. But I cant get a counter offer back. I'm not sure what to make of it. Any thoughts?
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I do not game at all. I watch 4K Atmos streamed or Blu-ray quality movies, a fair amount of broadcast TV (like Apple+, and CBS, etc), and some low def nostalgic shows ranging from Get Smart to Star Trek to Boston legal, etc.

I run all audio through my HDMI Atmos enabled receiver.

is there any advantage to purchasing a TV with 2.1 vs. 2.0 if I plan to keep the TV for at least 7 years if not a little longer?
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