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You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
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At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

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$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

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As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.
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You have the router on default settings, if you change the setting for IP from the standard 2 hour renewal you wouldn't have this issue. Don't blame the router for bad default settings when you don't know what the issue is. I have this router and it's been amazing in range and speed.
What setting should one change the renewal interval to? Google isn't really helping me out....
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I just noticed on the tp link site if you compare it to other routers it shows dual core listed there too but everything else says quad. I just logged into the router and it def is showing 4 cores under advanced/performance.
As I mentioned there are multiple versions of it, so at least one of them seem to be dual core.
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You have the router on default settings, if you change the setting for IP from the standard 2 hour renewal you wouldn't have this issue. Don't blame the router for bad default settings when you don't know what the issue is. I have this router and it's been amazing in range and speed.
The rebooting WiFi have no relation to the lease time of the routers' DHCP server. The only reason why you would want a short lease time, would be if your LAN settings change frequently. When the change happens, some devices won't notice, until it's time for an IP renewal. The shorter the lease time, the quicker they'll know.

By some I mean those who don't frequently access the internet or other resources on your LAN while being idle, and would be unaware of the mid air LAN change.

Or you have a lot of devices, and are unable to increase the DHCP IP range, then it's better to keep it short.
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Costco lists it as a dual core, there have been multiple versions of it. Or Costco description is just wrong, which does happen.

The one the person linked states dual core.
Is there a good modem and wireless/router all in one that you recommend for use with Spectrum cable?
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Difference between this and the AX1500? And is it worth more money to get this instead?

And has this been the lowest price? If not maybe wait BF?
This is the lowest price its ever been currently. I actually think this is the new normal price for it. This X20/AX1800 for an extra $20 over the AX1500 I would say is a great pick up cause of the quad core processor alone. On top of that you get more total bandwidth too 1.8Gbps vs the 1.2Gbps o the AX1500. You also get a USB port for attaching storage which the AX1500 did not have.

I believe this is the new replacement for the AX1500 entry level router, and they might be discontinuing the AX1500 quietly.

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What speeds are you guys getting from this router?

I have at&t fiber and I get low 300 mbps download speeds with a tp 1750 that was on sale for 40$ a couple months ago, it has WiFi 5 I believe
Dont own it, but reviewers are reporting 800 Mbps within the same room as the router, and around 450Mbps around 30ish feet away.

This is if your using a wifi 6 client, if your using wifi 5 gear you wont see much of a change from your current speeds.
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It drops devices and sometime reboot the whole 2.4 GHz band. Frankly, my next upgrade will be a mesh wifi-6 . I am waiting for the black friday deal for them. Another thing to note for the wifi-home-automators, if you don't want your love ones to pull their hair from wifi dropping, make sure they are using the 5 GHz Smilie.
It sounds like you have more of an smb usage case.

Have you considered going with a dedicated WAP from someone like ubiquiti?
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The Costco one is better because it has MU-MIMO, this is needed if you plan to have a lot of devices on the router (Wifi Home automations). I have the Walmart edition and currently it's a bit struggling with 33 devices (28 on 2.4 Ghz and 5 on 5 GHz)
It's struggling because the low bandwidth 2.4ghz band is saturated. You would have the same issue with any router on the 2.4.
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Is there a good modem and wireless/router all in one that you recommend for use with Spectrum cable?
Good and wireless gateways are hard to stomach cause corners have to be cut in gateways to fit all the gear and have it work properly. Also all the decent ones are super expensive for what you get. If you get speeds over 500Mbps there are only three real options the top of the line Netgear C7800, Netgear CBK40, and the ARRIS SURFboard SBG7600AC2.

If you dont have speeds over 500Mbps from your ISP there are a few cheaper options, but in most cases I would always recommend having a separate Modem and a separate router for your home, you get more options for the future.

This also is very dependent if your getting Voice/Phone service from your ISP, if you are none of the ones I mentioned will work. Most providers force you to user their gateways if your getting their phone service, or they let you buy the exact same gateway from retail outlets like Comcast.
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It's struggling because the low bandwidth 2.4ghz band is saturated. You would have the same issue with any router on the 2.4.
I don't think it is the bandwidth issue. These are light switches, blind, garage, sprinkler, and ... They don't do any intensive IO. I also checked the bandwidth meter and don't see anything out of norm. I am thinking the number of devices might be the issue. I also have them all on static IP lease no dynamic. The drop is once or twice a day which is not that bad for IoT since they are not being use at all time.
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I don't think it is the bandwidth issue. These are light switches, blind, garage, sprinkler, and ... They don't do any intensive IO. I also checked the bandwidth meter and don't see anything out of norm. I am thinking the number of devices might be the issue. I also have them all on static IP lease no dynamic. The drop is once or twice a day which is not that bad for IoT since they are not being use at all time.
OK good call. I'm thinking the one way to solve your problem which you may not want to spend the money on is get a mesh system with a dedicated backhaul that way it's distributing all the connections throughout your home to different nodes.
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Good and wireless gateways are hard to stomach cause corners have to be cut in gateways to fit all the gear and have it work properly. Also all the decent ones are super expensive for what you get. If you get speeds over 500Mbps there are only three real options the top of the line Netgear C7800, Netgear CBK40, and the ARRIS SURFboard SBG7600AC2.

If you dont have speeds over 500Mbps from your ISP there are a few cheaper options, but in most cases I would always recommend having a separate Modem and a separate router for your home, you get more options for the future.

This also is very dependent if your getting Voice/Phone service from your ISP, if you are none of the ones I mentioned will work. Most providers force you to user their gateways if your getting their phone service, or they let you buy the exact same gateway from retail outlets like Comcast.
I have a motorola sb6141 router (I get speeds of 85 Mbs on a wired connection). My internet connection is supposed to be 200mbs. The cable company is sending me a new modem that can handle the speed (no extra cost for me; wish I had known)

I just purchased a "
TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router (Archer A7) - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Internet Router for Home, Works with Alexa, VPN Server, Parental Control and QoS" for $50.

My PC has integrated "10/100/1000 ethernet" which I assume is not a limiting factor to get 200mbs. Does the cable that goes into the PC have to meet any minimum requirement?

Will this solution work for me (apartment, 1400 square feet)?

Thanks.
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I have a motorola sb6141 router (I get speeds of 85 Mbs on a wired connection). My internet connection is supposed to be 200mbs. The cable company is sending me a new modem that can handle the speed (no extra cost for me; wish I had known)

I just purchased a "
TP-Link AC1750 Smart WiFi Router (Archer A7) - Dual Band Gigabit Wireless Internet Router for Home, Works with Alexa, VPN Server, Parental Control and QoS" for $50.

My PC has integrated "10/100/1000 ethernet" which I assume is not a limiting factor to get 200mbs. Does the cable that goes into the PC have to meet any minimum requirement?

Will this solution work for me (apartment, 1400 square feet)?

Thanks.
The SB6141 is a Modem not a router. The SB6141 is older but its still a Docis 3.0 device that should be able to get up to around 300 Mbps so there is no reason I can think of why you are only getting 85Mbps on a wired connection. I want to confirm when you say wired connection, do you have the Ethernet cable, looks like a larger version of the phone line going into your SB6141 then directly to your computer for your testing? Or do you have the ethernet cable going from the SB6141 going into your Archer A7 then from the A7 into your computer for your tests? You want to be using minimum a catergory 5 ethernet cable. They are extremely common and most ethernet cables are catergory 5 and the ones that come with the modem and router are all minimum catergory 5/5e if not 6 so that should not be an issue. There are higher levels of cable but it gets complicated to explain, and should not real impact you.

The only real way to get an accurate speed test is to run a cable from the modem to the computer and not use a router. That will give you the real number for you speeds.

As for the A7 for your service level, size apartment, and usage I believe it will suit you fine, especially for $50. I am assuming you primarily, surf, check emails, and stream movies?
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OK good call. I'm thinking the one way to solve your problem which you may not want to spend the money on is get a mesh system with a dedicated backhaul that way it's distributing all the connections throughout your home to different nodes.
Yep, that's my next option. I did a lot of research and come to the same conclusion but haven't make the move Smilie
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Only a 2x2 radio. Would recommend investment into a 4x4 AC wave 2 or AX router.

These 2x2 AX routers lack range with AC clients. In most cases, an older 3x3 AC Wave 1 router can compete or even beat it out in range to wireless throughput.


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C4000 is a quad core processor:
https://www.tp-link.com/au/home-n...her-c4000/ [tp-link.com]

I grabbed one back in march during a walmart mixup and swapped out an Asus bluecave and it has no problem keeping up with dozens of devices. Max wireless throughput I've seen was in the 700Mbps range in the same room. Otherwise it's 450-600 within a couple rooms away, range is much improved over the asus.
The current model of the C4000 is a dual core 4906 with 3 co-processors integrated into the radios, In fact both the C4000 and A20 are. The quad core 4908 models are EOL and discontinued.

On that note, this "Quad Core" AX router isn't really a quad core relative to a higher end router. Its a dual core with 2 co processors integrated in a SoC.

I can make the same argument for the ASUS routers with the "Triple Core" SoC.
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