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#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

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At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.
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So I have been watching this thread since my wndr3400 is dying and I cant make the tm-ac1900 work. Question is buy now @ $90(kids discount) or wait for BF?
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So I have been watching this thread since my wndr3400 is dying and I cant make the tm-ac1900 work. Question is buy now @ $90(kids discount) or wait for BF?
I think most places are offering holiday return time windows now, so what do you have to lose to get it now, besides maybe a price match or a return and rebuy in the future depending on retailer?
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I can't thank you enough. As you recommended, I connected the modem directly into the PC (
ignoring the router) and VOILA, the speed was 230 mbps (30 more than Spectrum's promised 200 mbps.). So, the problem wasn't the Motorola SB 6141 router as you correctly stated! When I then ran the modem through the router, the speed via a wired connected dropped to a 50 mbps. What a drop! The damn 6 year old N300 router TL-WR841N is the bottleneck!

Spectrum gave me totally incorrect information. They stated that my personally owned SB 6141 was the problem and couldn't generate speeds exceeding 130 mbps. They already shipped out their own modem though it will not cost me anything. The first thing I will do is to test that modem directly on my computer (without the router) but if the contracted speed with Specturm is only 200 mbps, I don't see how the new modem will benefit me over the SB 6141. Anyway, I will get back to you once I find out what that modem is.

By the way, my cable is CAT 5. Should I get CAT 7 or shouldn't bother?

Again, I can't thank you enough! You correctly indicated the steps I should take to diagnose the core issue.
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I think most places are offering holiday return time windows now, so what do you have to lose to get it now, besides maybe a price match or a return and rebuy in the future depending on retailer?
does amazon take returns for a full refund?
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I have the synology ac2600 which is great except it has trouble penetrating downstairs, even though the devices are about 25 feet away tops. Would this be a significant upgrade if all the devices have new wifi 6 cards in them?
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I went to Walmart after I saw this post and there were other two models as well. AX1500 version for 69.99 and AX3000 for 129.99.
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Yes I saw that last night, but even TP-Link does not differentiate them completely.

Direct from their website it lists the AX50/AX3000

https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-n...cher-ax50/
So, which of these 3 do you recommend?

a) $89.99 TP-Link Archer A9 - Wireless router - 4-port switch - GigE, 802.11ac Wave 2 - 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wave 2 for $89.99
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/t...etworking?

b) $99.99 TP-Link Archer AX1800 4 Stream Dual-Band Wi-Fi 6 Wireless Router Up to 1.8 Gbps Speeds 1.5 GHz Quad-Core CPU
The one in this thread

c) $129.99 TP-Link Archer C4000 Tri-Band Wi-Fi Router
https://www.costco.com/tp-link-ar...8449.html?
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Id like to know what options in this price range has hardware AES ni for open VPN
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I think your looking at the ax20
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Is the Amazon item (link below) identical to the Walmart one in the deal. The amazon one states "ax20" but the walmart doesn't:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wi...85288G3M/?
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So, which of these 3 do you recommend?

a) $89.99 TP-Link Archer A9 - Wireless router - 4-port switch - GigE, 802.11ac Wave 2 - 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wave 2 for $89.99
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/t...etworking?

b) $99.99 TP-Link Archer AX1800 4 Stream Dual-Band Wi-Fi 6 Wireless Router Up to 1.8 Gbps Speeds 1.5 GHz Quad-Core CPU
The one in this thread

c) $129.99 TP-Link Archer C4000 Tri-Band Wi-Fi Router
https://www.costco.com/tp-link-ar...8449.html?
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I can't thank you enough. As you recommended, I connected the modem directly into the PC (
ignoring the router) and VOILA, the speed was 230 mbps (30 more than Spectrum's promised 200 mbps.). So, the problem wasn't the Motorola SB 6141 router as you correctly stated! When I then ran the modem through the router, the speed via a wired connected dropped to a 50 mbps. What a drop! The damn 6 year old N300 router TL-WR841N is the bottleneck!

Spectrum gave me totally incorrect information. They stated that my personally owned SB 6141 was the problem and couldn't generate speeds exceeding 130 mbps. They already shipped out their own modem though it will not cost me anything. The first thing I will do is to test that modem directly on my computer (without the router) but if the contracted speed with Specturm is only 200 mbps, I don't see how the new modem will benefit me over the SB 6141. Anyway, I will get back to you once I find out what that modem is.

By the way, my cable is CAT 5. Should I get CAT 7 or shouldn't bother?

Again, I can't thank you enough! You correctly indicated the steps I should take to diagnose the core issue.
Good to hear you got your full speeds, as I stated those modems are good up to 300 Mbps. The only benefit of the newer modem depending on what kind it is could be increased reliability of service. Modems do something not easy to explain and work of a system called channel bonding, the more channels a modem has the more speed it can recieve but also the more stable its service becomes. So that would really be the only benefit.

As for a different CAT cable don't worry about it, you wont see any difference, the higher end CAT cables are made for business use and deployments and for speeds upwards of 1Gbps so 5X your current speed. The CAT 5 cable you have is just fine.

Working almost 6 years in the past in a high level network engineering/design/maintenance position for one the largest Internet service providers in the world paid off, who would have thought lol :-). So to be fair I am a lot more knowledge about networking then most of the people you will speak to over the phone and on the internet. So I always cant help chuckle when someone tries to out smart me in the subject matter. Once in awhile someone does outsmart me though, so it happens. Even though I am no longer in that field I keep very up to date on most developments for my own personal and side business endeavors, since networking is very important.

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does amazon take returns for a full refund?
The only thing you might have to ever pay back is shipping cost, but if its drop off eligible at a local Kohls you should get a full refund.

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I have the synology ac2600 which is great except it has trouble penetrating downstairs, even though the devices are about 25 feet away tops. Would this be a significant upgrade if all the devices have new wifi 6 cards in them?
Your speeds at the same distance have the potential to be double or more of your current speeds since your using all wifi 6 AX cards, so if you think that's significant then yes.

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So, which of these 3 do you recommend?

a) $89.99 TP-Link Archer A9 - Wireless router - 4-port switch - GigE, 802.11ac Wave 2 - 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wave 2 for $89.99
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/t...etworking?

b) $99.99 TP-Link Archer AX1800 4 Stream Dual-Band Wi-Fi 6 Wireless Router Up to 1.8 Gbps Speeds 1.5 GHz Quad-Core CPU
The one in this thread

c) $129.99 TP-Link Archer C4000 Tri-Band Wi-Fi Router
https://www.costco.com/tp-link-ar...8449.html?
Seeing you been using a N300 type of router all these years all of the above will be a night and day difference for you. If you are okay spending the $100 or a possible $130 and are not on a tight budget I would recommend the AX20/AX1800 or the bigger brother the AX50/AX3000 each will last you long time bearing no unforeseen issues. Its really late in the wireless game now to be looking at Wifi 5 routers and technology cause it will be obsolete in under 3 years for the most part so a waste of money. Wifi 5 gear would be the Archer A7/A9 and C4000, even though they are great routers they will have be replaced in a few years just cause of their technology being too old to keep up with the newer gear, like your N300 was about 3-4 years ago.
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I went to Walmart after I saw this post and there were other two models as well. AX1500 version for 69.99 and AX3000 for 129.99.
As I mentioned in the posts way earlier, I believe the AX1500 is being slowly discontinued and replaced with the AX1800 cause there is really no reason for 2 very basic entry level routers in TP-Links line up.

If you can afford the extra money the AX3000 would be your best overall bet, but the AX1800 is a solid performing router for people whos speeds and needs are very basic like surfing the web, checking, email, playing a online game, and or streaming a movie to a couple devices.
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Just wanted to mention that there is no DFS channels on the AX1800. Not a biggie if you are not in a crowded area. Overall it was easy to setup and Wifi 6 kicks some a$$ accessing my NAS drive.
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Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
. If you are okay spending the $100 or a possible $130 and are not on a tight budget I would recommend the AX20/AX1800 or the bigger brother the AX50/AX3000 each will last you long time bearing no unforeseen issues. .
Yes, you sold me on this.

Two more questions:

1) Is the Amazon item (link below) identical to the Walmart one in the deal. The amazon one states "ax20" but the walmart doesn't:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wi...85288G3M/?

2)What are the major differences between the AX20 and AX50? Thanks.
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Yes, you sold me on this.

Two more questions:

1) Is the Amazon item (link below) identical to the Walmart one in the deal. The amazon one states "ax20" but the walmart doesn't:

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-Wi...85288G3M/?

2)What are the major differences between the AX20 and AX50? Thanks.
The manufacture makes no distinction between AX20 and AX1800 so best to my knowledge and the information provided by the manufacture of the device, they are identical. Especially since I posted that link earlier which shows the router being called both names by the manufacture on their own website.

AX50 is able to handle a lot more devices, because it ca pass through a lot more network traffic. It has a few more advanced features like QoS (quality of service) control. It has a USB port for file sharing and printer sharing. it has support for homecare which is their anti virus package which protects your whole home network, I believe its free but only for a certain time period than you pay a yearly subscription through the tether app for it if you want to continue using it, but that I am not 100% sure about as I don't own or use tp link routers currently.
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