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TLDR don't buy the RP-140SA and spend the extra $120 on Amazon for the RP-500SA instead. BTW, if you buy these from Adorama it will cost you $20ish to send them, with Amazon Prime, since the RP-500SA are "renewed" you have 90 days to return them with free return shipping.

Here is my two cents as a Klipsch owner who has 30 speakers in their home. Including a 7.2.4 setup. Earlier this month I purchased these RP-140 speakers from Adorama. I used them as front heights after doing no less than 20 hours of research regarding positioning Atmos speakers (ceiling, front height and reflecting speakers) First, regarding reflecting speakers - this a challenge and IMHO a marketing gimmick. The amount of power and crossover stage you would need to actually get any sort of acceptable sound via reflection versus putting them in ceiling or height placment is something to really consider. If that's your only option, I would say save your money and buy the tower speakers that have them built in like the RP-280FA. At least with the foam surround and their recessed positioning, it allows them to channel the sound more effectively towards the ceiling. Of course you will need the perfect ceiling that is not angled, not rough, not stippled, purely flat and the angle has to be precise of where the front tower speaker distance to the ceiling and the angle of incidence towards towards your main listening position. I currently have six Klipsch 5800 CDT II in my ceiling. These speakers are about $200 on Amazon and are absolutely fantastic with their 8-in driver and angled tweeter.

I added the RP-140sa for front height and after doing hours and hours of tests running the James Bond Specter opening sequence over and over and over again. This intro has about everything you want in 15 minutes to test your system, guns, bass, explosions, helicopter sequence, and some very good vocal singing. I eventually set my crossovers to 80 Hertz. those who are running the higher frequency crossover per the manual which recommends 150hz is due to the reflection and channeling of energy to focus sound off of the ceiling (reduce lower end to make top end more efficent). After several tests running front height speakers it was apparent to me to cross it over to 80 Hertz.

After thorough testing, the RP-140SA speakers are not of the typical Klipsch RP quality. I wasn't able to ascertain from Klipsch technical support, but I feel that there's an internal crossover that is limiting the frequencies that can be replicated even through your receiver. These speakers do not sound good on the bottom or top end. I simply was not impressed with these speakers in any position or audio genre. At $200 a pair, they are not worth it and thus my suspicions of why they have been discontinued after only five years in production.

I have since purchased the Klipsch RP-500sa which has a selectable crossover on the back for either surround or Atmos, the driver is now 5.25" versus 4" it has a slightly improved tweeter and they are much better looking than the 140SA. For an extra $120 via Amazon renewed, it's a no-brainer - these speakers DO NOT sound or look like the reference premiere product that Klipsch is known for.
I'll explain for people that don't know.

Dolby Atmos is a surround sound format, derivative of Atmosphere. It's specifically mixed for an immersive experience, in this case speakers around you (5 or more) & the main reason for this, above you(2 or more). The basic set up for these audio tracks is a 5.1.2 speaker set up; Front Left, Center, Front Right, Surround Left, Surround Right, Subwoofer & to achieve the effect, Top Left & Right .

There's options, these type of speaker modules that are designed to bounce the audio from your flat ceiling(there can't be obstructions like fixtures, fans, or a slope). This should be the last option, but the application would be in-ceiling speakers or on ceiling mounted speakers(these can do that).

You do need a modern receiver that can decode these audio tracks(Dolby Atmos or DTS:X). Now the ATMOS tag on many products nowadays is a marketing scheme most of the time, ANY SPEAKER CAN BE USED. Many sound bars have the tag, it's the worst trap out there. So be smart, do some research or join r/hometheater on Reddit. There's lots of guys like me who are willing to help you build a set up on a budget. Reply any questions, I'm down to help.

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$40 less than when I bought them in June...great price.
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TLDR don't buy the RP-140SA and spend the extra $120 on Amazon for the RP-500SA instead. BTW, if you buy these from Adorama it will cost you $20ish to send them, with Amazon Prime, since the RP-500SA are "renewed" you have 90 days to return them with free return shipping.

Here is my two cents as a Klipsch owner who has 30 speakers in their home. Including a 7.2.4 setup. Earlier this month I purchased these RP-140 speakers from Adorama. I used them as front heights after doing no less than 20 hours of research regarding positioning Atmos speakers (ceiling, front height and reflecting speakers) First, regarding reflecting speakers - this a challenge and IMHO a marketing gimmick. The amount of power and crossover stage you would need to actually get any sort of acceptable sound via reflection versus putting them in ceiling or height placment is something to really consider. If that's your only option, I would say save your money and buy the tower speakers that have them built in like the RP-280FA. At least with the foam surround and their recessed positioning, it allows them to channel the sound more effectively towards the ceiling. Of course you will need the perfect ceiling that is not angled, not rough, not stippled, purely flat and the angle has to be precise of where the front tower speaker distance to the ceiling and the angle of incidence towards towards your main listening position. I currently have six Klipsch 5800 CDT II in my ceiling. These speakers are about $200 on Amazon and are absolutely fantastic with their 8-in driver and angled tweeter.

I added the RP-140sa for front height and after doing hours and hours of tests running the James Bond Specter opening sequence over and over and over again. This intro has about everything you want in 15 minutes to test your system, guns, bass, explosions, helicopter sequence, and some very good vocal singing. I eventually set my crossovers to 80 Hertz. those who are running the higher frequency crossover per the manual which recommends 150hz is due to the reflection and channeling of energy to focus sound off of the ceiling (reduce lower end to make top end more efficent). After several tests running front height speakers it was apparent to me to cross it over to 80 Hertz.

After thorough testing, the RP-140SA speakers are not of the typical Klipsch RP quality. I wasn't able to ascertain from Klipsch technical support, but I feel that there's an internal crossover that is limiting the frequencies that can be replicated even through your receiver. These speakers do not sound good on the bottom or top end. I simply was not impressed with these speakers in any position or audio genre. At $200 a pair, they are not worth it and thus my suspicions of why they have been discontinued after only five years in production.

I have since purchased the Klipsch RP-500sa which has a selectable crossover on the back for either surround or Atmos, the driver is now 5.25" versus 4" it has a slightly improved tweeter and they are much better looking than the 140SA. For an extra $120 via Amazon renewed, it's a no-brainer - these speakers DO NOT sound or look like the reference premiere product that Klipsch is known for.
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Still have no idea how Dolby Atmos works, does something have to be made with Dolby Atmos to play properly with these?
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Still have no idea how Dolby Atmos works, does something have to be made with Dolby Atmos to play properly with these?
I'll explain for people that don't know.

Dolby Atmos is a surround sound format, derivative of Atmosphere. It's specifically mixed for an immersive experience, in this case speakers around you (5 or more) & the main reason for this, above you(2 or more). The basic set up for these audio tracks is a 5.1.2 speaker set up; Front Left, Center, Front Right, Surround Left, Surround Right, Subwoofer & to achieve the effect, Top Left & Right .

There's options, these type of speaker modules that are designed to bounce the audio from your flat ceiling(there can't be obstructions like fixtures, fans, or a slope). This should be the last option, but the application would be in-ceiling speakers or on ceiling mounted speakers(these can do that).

You do need a modern receiver that can decode these audio tracks(Dolby Atmos or DTS:X). Now the ATMOS tag on many products nowadays is a marketing scheme most of the time, ANY SPEAKER CAN BE USED. Many sound bars have the tag, it's the worst trap out there. So be smart, do some research or join r/hometheater on Reddit. There's lots of guys like me who are willing to help you build a set up on a budget. Reply any questions, I'm down to help.
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I'll explain for people that don't know.

Dolby Atmos is a surround sound format, derivative of Atmosphere. It's specifically mixed for an immersive experience, in this case speakers around you (5 or more) & the main reason for this, above you(2 or more). The basic set up for these audio tracks is a 5.1.2 speaker set up; Front Left, Center, Front Right, Surround Left, Surround Right, Subwoofer & to achieve the effect, Top Left & Right .

There's options, these type of speaker modules that are designed to bounce the audio from your flat ceiling(there can't be obstructions like fixtures, fans, or a slope). This should be the last option, but the application would be in-ceiling speakers or on ceiling mounted speakers(these can do that).

You do need a modern receiver that can decode these audio tracks(Dolby Atmos or DTS:X). Now the ATMOS tag on many products nowadays is a marketing scheme most of the time, ANY SPEAKER CAN BE USED. Many sound bars have the tag, it's the worst trap out there. So be smart, do some research or join r/hometheater on Reddit. There's lots of guys like me who are willing to help you build a set up on a budget. Reply any questions, I'm down to help.
This is very helpful. I have been looking at klipsch speakers but very confused which speakers to buy for medium sized room with budget of about $1000. I am new so do not know much.
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Would this help me in 20 feet ceiling or is useless
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How do these compare to the R-41SA's from Kipsch? I just paid 229 for a pair, thinking of sending them back.
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This is very helpful. I have been looking at klipsch speakers but very confused which speakers to buy for medium sized room with budget of about $1000. I am new so do not know much.
$1,000 is enough to get you started on the right route, home theaters is definitely a patience endless game unless you're rich lol which I'm sure none of us on this app are haha send me a message, I'll give you some input & recommendations.
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Just found the Klipsch R-41SA on sale on Amazon for $229 (pair), 50% off. Anyone know if these are good?

https://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-R-...598&sr=8-5
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Would this help me in 20 feet ceiling or is useless
If mounted as height pointing down it will work. However, I would suggest moving up to the Rp-500sa or definitely look at in ceiling speakers instead.

Also remind me again why the thumbs down for trying to help you lol.
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If mounted as height pointing down it will work. However, I would suggest moving up to the Rp-500sa or definitely look at in ceiling speakers instead.
at 20 feet ceiling, I am not going the in ceiling route, way too high
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We have a flat ceiling that is pretty low but it is textured (not popcorn but not far off that). I do not want to try to put speakers into the ceiling for a couple of reasons. I have 5.1 setup right now with 2 Polk Tsi400s as my front L/R which I would put the atmos speakers on top of. I am wondering a couple things. First, will the ceiling bounce work on textured ceilings? Second, does it really matter what "brand" I buy and am I overthinking trying to match my Polk soundstage? Does that matter with the atmos speakers? Thanks for any help.
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at 20 feet ceiling, I am not going the in ceiling route, way too high
Then look at Svs prime elevations.
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