22.5" Lenovo ThinkVision T23d-10 1920x1200 4ms IPS Monitor

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11-28-2020 at 09:16 PM #61

Perfect for a basic home monitor with no extra frills. Thanks OP!

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11-29-2020 at 05:27 AM #62

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This TÜV Eye Comfort certified. Being 16:10, they know most people will be using for coding/office work, so it's designed to be less strenuous on the eyes.

What the question was about is not the aspect ratio.

It was about whether or not the screen's backlight uses PWM, especially at a low speed. Some monitors use PWM to flick the backlight on and off rapidly. This wasn't such a big problem when screens used fluorescent tubes because those would more gracefully become black. But, LEDs switch extremely fast. The flicker may cause eyestrain. There are four options:

1. The manufacturer could use a very very high PWM rate. This is supposed to solve the issue by making the flickering so fast that it won't even strain your subconscious.

2. The manufacturer could use a constant control backlight. This has no PWM and therefore no flicker.

3. The manufacturer can use fast PWM at higher brightness levels and slow flickery PWM as the panel's brightness is turned down. (Not a good solution.)

4. The manufacturer can use slow PWM for the full range (except sometimes at 100% brightness where it's usually turned off). (Not a good solution.)

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11-29-2020 at 07:59 AM #63

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What the question was about is not the aspect ratio.

It was about whether or not the screen's backlight uses PWM, especially at a low speed. Some monitors use PWM to flick the backlight on and off rapidly. This wasn't such a big problem when screens used fluorescent tubes because those would more gracefully become black. But, LEDs switch extremely fast. The flicker may cause eyestrain. There are four options:

1. The manufacturer could use a very very high PWM rate. This is supposed to solve the issue by making the flickering so fast that it won't even strain your subconscious.

2. The manufacturer could use a constant control backlight. This has no PWM and therefore no flicker.

3. The manufacturer can use fast PWM at higher brightness levels and slow flickery PWM as the panel's brightness is turned down. (Not a good solution.)

4. The manufacturer can use slow PWM for the full range (except sometimes at 100% brightness where it's usually turned off). (Not a good solution.)

I wasn't referring to the aspect ratio to mean that its better on the eyes just because its 16:10. As noted in the comment, it was just to point out that a 16:10 AR is known by manufacturers to be used primarily in offices, thus will likely have people in front of them for hours. As such, they are designed to provide less strain on the eyes.

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11-29-2020 at 08:01 AM #64

I'm not sure why anyone would want to buy this monitor since 24" monitors with full HD resolution (1920 x 1080) can be had for the same price?

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11-29-2020 at 08:30 AM #65

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I'm not sure why anyone would want to buy this monitor since 24" monitors with full HD resolution (1920 x 1080) can be had for the same price?

It's has 11.1% more vertical pixels. 16:10 ratio is very useful for people using web browsers and other work software. Screen size as far as how much you can show on the screen is measured in pixels. Size in inches is not always what people are going for

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11-29-2020 at 10:17 AM #66

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I'm not sure why anyone would want to buy this monitor since 24" monitors with full HD resolution (1920 x 1080) can be had for the same price?

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It's has 11.1% more vertical pixels. 16:10 ratio is very useful for people using web browsers and other work software. Screen size as far as how much you can show on the screen is measured in pixels. Size in inches is not always what people are going for https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...ilies/wink.gif

When turned vertical, standard 8.5x11 paperwork can typically be viewed entirely at a closer zoom without side-scrolling. This makes it nicer when working in Word. Also, dat_gbab mentioned more vertical pixels, which are very useful when working with Excel and doing coding. For example, the Lenovo 24" p24q 16:9 FHD is 21.26"w x 12.83"h. This T23 is FHD also at 1920x1200, but is 19.73"w x 13.54"h. While it may seem a marginal difference, in many business applications the extra 0.69" vertical is more useful than the 1.53" width as the extra width is usually just unused space anyway.

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11-29-2020 at 04:41 PM #67

So if I'm getting something for web browsing/ youtube this resolution would be better? Already have a dedicated gaming tn 1ms 144hz, just need smt with better image quality for basic, non gaming, non image/video editing situation. Also worried about mixing screen resolutions when they are side by side. 1 1080p and another 1080x1200. Any inputs?

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11-29-2020 at 05:27 PM #68

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So if I'm getting something for web browsing/ youtube this resolution would be better? Already have a dedicated gaming tn 1ms 144hz, just need smt with better image quality for basic, non gaming, non image/video editing situation. Also worried about mixing screen resolutions when they are side by side. 1 1080p and another 1080x1200. Any inputs?

I have 2 of these. I don't think there is really an advantage for Youtube. Most videos are 16x9, so you will have small black bars in the top and bottom. The real advantage is for things such as office documents, or browsing the internet, where you get a bit of extra height.

I don't think having 2 different aspect monitors is horrible, but its not ideal. If you can, try to find a matching pair of the monitor you already have.

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11-29-2020 at 07:47 PM #69

Is 250 nits bright enough?

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11-30-2020 at 04:09 AM #70

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11-30-2020 at 11:31 AM #71

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11-30-2020 at 02:23 PM #72

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11-30-2020 at 03:17 PM #73

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A question to those who know — Which is better?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sams...Id=6420870

For most people, the Best Buy one is a better option. FreeSync plus higher refresh and standard 16:9 widescreen fits better for what most people will use it for, i.e. YouTube, light gaming, streaming, etc. This Lenovo is a better option for me because the two I bought will be used primarily for school and work. I have a separate 32" 16:9 for entertainment purposes.

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11-30-2020 at 08:31 PM #74

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11-30-2020 at 08:36 PM #75

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I'm not sure why anyone would want to buy this monitor since 24" monitors with full HD resolution (1920 x 1080) can be had for the same price?

Not even the same price, 24" 1080p can be had for cheaper than these (Dell had $70 and $80 monitors last week).
With that said I'm really tempted as 22.5" is less eye/neck strain compared to 24" (and 19/20" monitors are too small), plus the extra 120 pixels can make a difference.

Highly recommend for work/WFH, but not really for casual home use and definitely not gaming.

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