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Echelon EX-4S Exercise Bike w/screen and 1yr membership $999 in store at Costco YMMV

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So I started researching Pelotons for my wife yesterday, and have major issue spending that much. Came upon this Echelon company in another SD thread. See that they have an EX3 that has no screen, and then an EX5 that has a big Peloton-size screen but that is like $1600 or something. Costco online has that EX5 for delivery and there are a fair number of negative reviews.

Someone had mentioned this EX4 in store Costco so I went to my store today and they had 6 on the floor. Nothing online I can find about it. Has a 10 inch "HD" screen so certainly smaller than an EX5, but better than EX3 which has none. I don't know the stats on flywheel but I can say that the box was surprisingly freakin heavy (says 120 pounds) so something in there must be "solid" haha.

I nabbed it just to have it, in case these start flying off the shelves once I post this haha. It says it comes with 1 yr of the app membership, which right there would be worth $480 I think. For me, much better to spend a thou and see if my wife really uses this, and can always do Peloton later or just stick with Echelon. We might find out that the 1yr app membership is hobbled in some way (like doesn't include live classes or something) but will see. I just nabbed the item and will store it till Xmas and then figure it out. If anyone else gets better info they can share. Benefit of this unit beyond the price is that I actually have it in hand, vs some vaporware delivery slot for Echelon EX5 or Peloton....

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not bad, as my first spin bike I got Echelon Connect Sport for $497 plus free 6 months membership from Walmart. Major difference is Walmart model has wheel in the front and handlebars are not adjustable (only go up or down) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Echelo.../533034706
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Not a great photo but here is one assembled in store.

https://imgur.com/a/xhSo79q
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I was told in the other thread that starting this month, you cant use any third party cadence trackers on the Peloton app, so going the really cheap route means you wont actually see anything of your performance if you are using the Peloton app. Some reviews said Echelon has continued to improve its game app-wise and has live classes etc, and with this bike you could actually "participate" in those. I dunno I felt like worth taking the chance as this is $999 and Peloton + 1 yr classes is like $3000....plus I don't think I can even get a Peloton before Xmas unless I found it used. I totally agree if I could find a good used Peloton for $1000 or something I would do that all day long.
I nabbed one too in case itd sell out. Can always return it if we don't open it or find a better alternative.
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Put one together today (simple to assemble). It is some odd hybrid.

Base is 20 wide by 40 long. Whole unit is about 20 wide by 58 long. Weighs about 125 lbs. Seems to have EX-5 aero handlebars but NO fore/aft adjustment.

Seat height is a lever. Other adjustments are knobs. Touch screen swivels 180 degrees. Pedals are SPD on one side. Has barbell holder and water bottle cages on frame. Seat seems to be the smaller comp seat from EX-3/EX-5 and angle can be adjusted with wrench. No idea on motor but has resistance knob like seen on EX-3/EX-5.

Free one year Echelon United Unlimited ($400 value). Touch screen has usb and hdmi ports.

So basically it's a $600 Echelon Mash Up with a 10.1 inch HD touch screen. Still less than the cyber monday $600 EX-1 with no screen or $750 EX-3 with no screen. My costco in Chicago area had 5.
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Put one together today (simple to assemble). It is some odd hybrid.

Base is 20 wide by 40 long. Whole unit is about 20 wide by 58 long. Weighs about 125 lbs. Seems to have EX-5 aero handlebars but NO fore/aft adjustment.

Seat height is a lever. Other adjustments are knobs. Touch screen swivels 180 degrees. Pedals are SPD on one side. Has barbell holder and water bottle cages on frame. Seat seems to be the smaller comp seat from EX-3/EX-5 and angle can be adjusted with wrench. No idea on motor but has resistance knob like seen on EX-3/EX-5.

Free one year Echelon United Unlimited ($400 value). Touch screen has usb and hdmi ports.

So basically it's a $600 Echelon Mash Up with a 10.1 inch HD touch screen. Still less than the cyber monday $600 EX-1 with no screen or $750 EX-3 with no screen. My costco in Chicago area had 5.
Are you saying its a 600 mash up because you're factoring in 400$ worth of classes?
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Are you saying its a 600 mash up because you're factoring in 400$ worth of classes?
Yes - $600 Mash Up -- because if you get the bike (regardless of where), you basically have to pay $400 for Year of Echelon United Unlimited for Classes to take advantage of the bike/ touch screen potential.. (or $40 a month).

But for Clarity - Item is $999 at Costco (includes 1 year classes).
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Debating on keeping this or going with the bowflex velocore due to the ability to use 3rd party apps including Netflix Disney+, Peloton, ect as long as you pay for jrny subscription.
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Debating on keeping this or going with the bowflex velocore due to the ability to use 3rd party apps including Netflix Disney+, Peloton, ect as long as you pay for jrny subscription.
I thought Peloton was switching so no third party hardware can load to their app? So you are saying that over time your Bowflex can watch Netflix or D+, but if you use Peloton app you will just be there but your stats wont be showing in the app
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Based on the description on bowflex's website it shows for the velocore bike you'd have to just stream peloton content onto a TV which isn't what I wanted but the bike being able to lean and work out the core seems appealing. I emailed peloton to ask how to have your metrics show up on peloton and compete with others on the leader board.

I know I derailed the OP but wanted to evaluate other options if Echelon isn't thr perfect fit for others.
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I thought Peloton was switching so no third party hardware can load to their app? So you are saying that over time your Bowflex can watch Netflix or D+, but if you use Peloton app you will just be there but your stats wont be showing in the app

There was a mention a while back and someone screenshot it from the Peloton help section that cadence monitor support would end in June of 2021. They since removed that from their help page and I haven't read anywhere about it no longer being supported. I just did a ride last night and cadence was still being tracked via my wahoo sensor.

This is the page that initially had the EOL date for cadence support, but again, that note has since been removed:

https://support.onepeloton.com/hc...al-for-iOS
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Based on the description on bowflex's website it shows for the velocore bike you'd have to just stream peloton content onto a TV which isn't what I wanted but the bike being able to lean and work out the core seems appealing. I emailed peloton to ask how to have your metrics show up on peloton and compete with others on the leader board.

I know I derailed the OP but wanted to evaluate other options if Echelon isn't thr perfect fit for others.
And Peloton's answer......."please click on the attached link to order your own Peloton super-premium bike system, for $2250, to be delivered sometime in the next 8-12 weeks. That's how to show up on our leaderboard etc....."
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There was a mention a while back and someone screenshot it from the Peloton help section that cadence monitor support would end in June of 2021. They since removed that from their help page and I haven't read anywhere about it no longer being supported. I just did a ride last night and cadence was still being tracked via my wahoo sensor.

This is the page that initially had the EOL date for cadence support, but again, that note has since been removed:

https://support.onepeloton.com/hc...al-for-iOS
oh THAT's cool! So maybe after a year of trying Echelon classes, if for some reason we want to switch to Peloton, then we could just buy a $39.99 sensor and pay for the Peloton classes....that could be cool
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oh THAT's cool! So maybe after a year of trying Echelon classes, if for some reason we want to switch to Peloton, then we could just buy a $39.99 sensor and pay for the Peloton classes....that could be cool
yup. keep in mind that it's only for iOS. So maybe there was support on Android before, and THAT was removed. But I've always used my iphone.
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And Peloton's answer......."please click on the attached link to order your own Peloton super-premium bike system, for $2250, to be delivered sometime in the next 8-12 weeks. That's how to show up on our leaderboard etc....."
Per pcmag: You can also sync your workout data to the Peloton and Zwift apps, if you like. When connected to the Peloton app, the bike will sync your RPM (cadence) data. When connected with Zwift, it will sync your heart rate, power, and RPM data.

The main reason would be the sway to sway motion with the bowflex that sets it apart with most other bikes. Otherwise you can always find some way to use different apps with the bike you purchase even if you have to use multiple devices but again that may make it an annoyance to use and ultimately lead to ut being used as a clothes hanger
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Awwww fuggit, I am going to get a REAL TRAINER like this one......
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