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Sadly, the record store near me recently closed, but not before I got a ton of stuff on sale, I'm in the market for a Turntable since I don't have one yet, would something like this last me a while? I know Pioneer is a well-respected company but I'm looking for input from somebody who knows their stuff.
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Sadly, the record store near me recently closed, but not before I got a ton of stuff on sale, I'm in the market for a Turntable since I don't have one yet, would something like this last me a while? I know Pioneer is a well-respected company but I'm looking for input from somebody who knows their stuff.
Pioneer is owned by Onkyo now right?
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Pioneer is owned by Onkyo now right?
So says Wikipedia.
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I'm confused by the specs. Does this have a built-in pre-amp?
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After some more research, I believe it does have a pre-amp
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While this looks like a decent deal, be aware that it is VERY poorly designed. My biggest disappointment is the tonearm and cartridge. The cartridge has a .6 mil conical stylus which is really a cheap way to make a stereo stylus. And the arm/cartridge is set to track at 3.5 grams which is way heavier than I'd ever want my records subjected to. Plus it seems there is no easy way to adjust the tracking force, or to use a better cartridge. One would be much better off finding a turntable that allows tracking weight AND antiskating adjustment, replaceable cartridges preferably with elliptical styli, and an option to not have to use the cheap built in preamp.
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Absolutely has a pre-amp, and it seems you cannot bypass it if that were your preference:

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Be sure not to connect this unit to the amplifier's PHONO jacks, as sound will be distorted and normal playback will not be possible. This unit has preamplifiers.
https://www.pioneerelectronics.co...pdf?page=5

The whole unit is only 5 lbs, which seems awfully light to me. It won't do 78 RPM either, but those are less common. The cartridge isn't replaceable, so this is a good entry level turntable if you never want to level up at all.
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After some more research, I believe it does have a pre-amp
It says it has a phono equalizer which I believe is the preamp. Built in preamps are usually not that great but fine for casual listening.
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While this looks like a decent deal, be aware that it is VERY poorly designed. My biggest disappointment is the tonearm and cartridge. The cartridge has a .6 mil conical stylus which is really a cheap way to make a stereo stylus. And the arm/cartridge is set to track at 3.5 grams which is way heavier than I'd ever want my records subjected to. Plus it seems there is no easy way to adjust the tracking force, or to use a better cartridge. One would be much better off finding a turntable that allows tracking weight AND antiskating adjustment, replaceable cartridges preferably with elliptical styli, and an option to not have to use the cheap built in preamp.
If this is true I would totally not get this. You should absolutely be able to turn the preamps off, adjust the arm pressure and change the cartridge. Cartridge upgrades are a big deal.
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Can't use any other cartridge than the one it comes with. This is a record player, not a "turntable." If you don't know the difference, or can't hear it, you'll be happy with it.

Best beginner's fully auto turntable: Denon DP-300F
https://www.worldwidestereo.com/p...-turntable
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Pioneer was restructured and the home audio line is now owned by the same company that owns Denon and Onkyo. They make some decent products but the turntable is surely made in China to meet a bargain basement price point.

Taking a quick look at this thing, the cartridge is permanently built into the tonearm and can't be changed or upgraded. The tracking force is fixed at 3.5 grams which is too heavy for serious consideration. I'd take a hard pass on this and keep looking. If your budget is under $200 you might want to take a look at the U-Turn Orbit Basic [uturnaudio.com].
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Pioneer was restructured and the home audio line is now owned by the same company that owns Denon and Onkyo. They make some decent products but the turntable is surely made in China to meet a bargain basement price point.

Taking a quick look at this thing, the cartridge is permanently built into the tonearm and can't be changed or upgraded. The tracking force is fixed at 3.5 grams which is too heavy for serious consideration. I'd take a hard pass on this and keep looking. If your budget is under $200 you might want to take a look at the U-Turn Orbit Basic [uturnaudio.com].
The Orbits have established a great reputation, if you're not snowed by the "assembled" in USA marketing B.S. (of stuff imported from China). Note that they are fully manual, so you need to pick up the needle at the end of play.
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Sadly, the record store near me recently closed, but not before I got a ton of stuff on sale, I'm in the market for a Turntable since I don't have one yet, would something like this last me a while? I know Pioneer is a well-respected company but I'm looking for input from somebody who knows their stuff.
Here's a decent intro article about turntables: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...turntable/
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Can't use any other cartridge than the one it comes with. This is a record player, not a "turntable." If you don't know the difference, or can't hear it, you'll be happy with it.

Best beginner's fully auto turntable: Denon DP-300F
https://www.worldwidestereo.com/p...-turntable [worldwidestereo.com]
Why pay $350 for a plastic box with AT3600L when you can get a much better Fluance RT81 or Crosley C8 for a whole lot less?
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