Behringer UMC404HD USB Audio Interface $150.84

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01-09-2021 at 11:09 PM #16

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What do you recommend for a use case where an abundance of clean gain is needed to drive dynamic mics (at least 2, no more than 4), but an audio interface is also needed? As I understand, the USB-powered interfaces will not supply enough clean gain.

Pickup a preamp like a cloudlifter/dynamite/ klark teknik. I use a dynamic mic (sm57 and a popfilter) and my umc202hd provided enough gain. So does my GoXLR mini. Which also provides enough gain for something like the famous sm7b.

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01-10-2021 at 05:06 AM #17

Haven't followed the price of these in years, bought this same thing a few years back off adorama for 69.99, why have they gone up so much in price?

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01-10-2021 at 05:15 AM #18

4x4 USB 2.0 Audio/MIDI Interface for recording microphones and instruments

Audiophile 24-Bit/192 kHz resolution for professional audio quality

Compatible with popular recording software including Avid Pro Tools*, Ableton Live*, Steinberg Cubase*, etc.

Streams 4 inputs / 4 outputs plus 1x MIDI I/O with ultra-low latency to your computer, supporting Mac* OS X* and Windows XP* or higher

4 state-of-the-art, MIDAS designed Mic Preamplifiers with +48 V phantom power. "Built-like-a-tank", impact-resistant metal chassis Designed and engineered in Germany

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01-10-2021 at 06:15 AM #19

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What do you recommend for a use case where an abundance of clean gain is needed to drive dynamic mics (at least 2, no more than 4), but an audio interface is also needed? As I understand, the USB-powered interfaces will not supply enough clean gain.

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01-10-2021 at 12:57 PM #20

Geez, I got the Behringer uphoria umc404 hd august 2018 for $70 from adorama..... is this the same item or did anything change on it

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01-10-2021 at 06:00 PM #21

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Is their ID22 the sweet spot? Anyone on this thread own one of those? Thought I remember some other forum thread about the unit developing issues with the power input.

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01-10-2021 at 06:13 PM #22

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Geez, I got the Behringer uphoria umc404 hd august 2018 for $70 from adorama..... is this the same item or did anything change on it

As far as I know, it's the same. Sure, we've seen some product price increases in the last year, but when the amount more than doubles in such a short time, the slickdeals stubborness kicks in.

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01-10-2021 at 09:38 PM #23

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When I recently built my new rig I upgraded from the Behringer UMC202HD to the MOTU M2. There was nothing wrong with the 202, just wanted something a bit more modern and that used USB-C even tho is still USB 2.0.

The MOTU is very good, but honestly I don't notice any sound difference vs the UMC202. Not even with latency. But the buttons and the gorgeous meter display on the M2 takes the cake. Keep in mind that the M2, unlike the UMC202, is USB powered only. This could cause problems with heavy audio projects depending which port you use on the PC. Especially when you use a cable longer than 4ft.

I have a UMC202 as well, but I thought it was USB powered?

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01-10-2021 at 09:42 PM #24

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I have a UMC202 as well, but I thought it was USB powered?

Yeah my bad. I had the 404. Don't know why I kept saying 202. Lol

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01-11-2021 at 05:22 PM #25

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Wow, I had no idea that these had gone up so much in price since they were under $100 on sale. I have one for recording classes, definitely solid and works well. The traction software is decent as well.

Ya the whole lineup went up in price a year or so ago. I think some of it may have been due to tariffs.

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01-11-2021 at 08:42 PM #26

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What do you recommend for a use case where an abundance of clean gain is needed to drive dynamic mics (at least 2, no more than 4), but an audio interface is also needed? As I understand, the USB-powered interfaces will not supply enough clean gain.

Don't buy the UMC202/404 if you need to power a dynamic mic. Buy an interface with more gain such as the Motu M2 or SSL2. Although, only the former is made in America.

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01-11-2021 at 10:31 PM #27

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Haven't followed the price of these in years, bought this same thing a few years back off adorama for 69.99, why have they gone up so much in price?

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01-12-2021 at 10:52 AM #28

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What do you recommend for a use case where an abundance of clean gain is needed to drive dynamic mics (at least 2, no more than 4), but an audio interface is also needed? As I understand, the USB-powered interfaces will not supply enough clean gain.

It's going to depend on what dynamic microphone you have. I use a Shure SM58. The UMC404HD has plenty of headroom for clean gain with that mic.
Some dynamic mics have lower output though and may need a separate or better preamp. An example would be the SM7B which I've read is a great dynamic mic but known for low output.

FYI - the 404HD has a DC power supply. You can run it USB only, but would recommend using the AC power, especially for mics.

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01-13-2021 at 08:06 AM #29

Having owned and returned numerous Behringer products for warranty issues in years past, I personally wouldn't buy or recommend anything with their name on it.

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01-13-2021 at 08:43 AM #30

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It's going to depend on what dynamic microphone you have. I use a Shure SM58. The UMC404HD has plenty of headroom for clean gain with that mic.
Some dynamic mics have lower output though and may need a separate or better preamp. An example would be the SM7B which I've read is a great dynamic mic but known for low output.

FYI - the 404HD has a DC power supply. You can run it USB only, but would recommend using the AC power, especially for mics.

I've used my UMC404HD to power both a large diaphragm condenser and a small diaphragm pencil condenser via phantom power while on usb bus power for Zoom jams. It handles it like a champ. I've had mine for 4 or 5 years now with zero issues.

On another note, I also run a Behringer compressor/limiter in the inserts. The expander cuts out most of the background noise from the condenser and helps make skype/zoom/facetime calls loud and feedback free when using my near-field monitors.

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