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Have you ever taken an interview you had no intention of taking the job?
January 20, 2021 at
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So, have you ever applied for a job and interviewed when you had absolutely no intention of ever accepting any offer (unless they gave you some crazy offer I guess)?
I am considering doing this - tons of opportunity for my..... set of skills.... in places where I would never consider moving (CA and MN, mostly), but I'd like to apply just for the hell of it to sharpen the interview process and get an idea if I were to get an offer (it seems salary isn't an oft-included number in job postings for some reason).
Yet, I hate wasting peoples' time.
I am considering doing this - tons of opportunity for my..... set of skills.... in places where I would never consider moving (CA and MN, mostly), but I'd like to apply just for the hell of it to sharpen the interview process and get an idea if I were to get an offer (it seems salary isn't an oft-included number in job postings for some reason).
Yet, I hate wasting peoples' time.
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I am considering doing this - tons of opportunity for my..... set of skills.... in places where I would never consider moving (CA and MN, mostly), but I'd like to apply just for the hell of it to sharpen the interview process and get an idea if I were to get an offer (it seems salary isn't an oft-included number in job postings for some reason).
Yet, I hate wasting peoples' time.
That said, I always found the interview process to be horrid and painful for all involved, so I would not be looking to do extra ones either lol.
That said, I always found the interview process to be horrid and painful for all involved, so I would not be looking to do extra ones either lol.
And if you work in HR, please be offended. You should be and re-examine your poor life choices.
And if you work in HR, please be offended. You should be and re-examine your poor life choices.
Catbert, evil HR Director lol.
That said, there are plenty of IT VPs and Directors that would fit quite well in HR. Dumb as bricks and phony as 3 dollar bills.
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Agreed!
The reverse happens to prospects many a time (they'll ghost; lie to you; have you jump through hoops; interview you for a job already filled/doesn't exist; etc.)
I often noticed that when answering a question with a proper relevant question, I get better connected with the interviewer.
Unless you think you are wasting your time and would cost later on, I then would not.
The reverse happens to prospects many a time (they'll ghost; lie to you; have you jump through hoops; interview you for a job already filled/doesn't exist; etc.)
An update - I've built my LI presence and along with that comes a slew of headhunters trying to fill positions. My job is rather like Liam Neeson in Taken - a very particular set of skills - that are very hard to find. I don't intend to puff myself up but frankly that's the case.
At any rate, I've had numerous interactions with headhunters and interviews - let me sharpen my resume, have frank discussions etc. and that's led to 2 very serious leads; one which basically has no chance of me accepting (unless they offer some crazy $$$, because it's in CA) and the other which is in a better location but probably won't offer me the $$ I need (as a family) due to location (lower COL = lower salary, probably).
So the question is, what's the best way to leverage this with my current employer to make the current situation more amenable to me? - and it's not really money-related, btw - so yes more $$ is better, but I am seeking other changes.
Only other suggestion is more or less what you are doing. Interview outside, understand your market value, then have something in your back pocket before approaching current people for changes. But be prepared for a 'no', which can lead to even worse situations.
Or they could lie to you and say 'sure we'll give you flex time' (as an example), but then make up numerous situations to sidestep that promise. I had a boss who, when I told him I was having difficulty sleeping and could use some flex, told me sure, if you wake up at say 4AM and can't get back to sleep, just start working (covid times so WFH), then you can log off after lunch and take a nap etc etc.
Problem with this is that his manager liked to hold afternoon meetings, often all the way till 6PM. There is no way he would have had the guts to tell him that yeah, I told my guy he can take a nap. So instead of flexing I would be expanding my work day. So i didn't believe him at all and just ignored his suggestion.
I quit that job btw, for that and myriad other reasons.
Only other suggestion is more or less what you are doing. Interview outside, understand your market value, then have something in your back pocket before approaching current people for changes. But be prepared for a 'no', which can lead to even worse situations.
Or they could lie to you and say 'sure we'll give you flex time' (as an example), but then make up numerous situations to sidestep that promise. I had a boss who, when I told him I was having difficulty sleeping and could use some flex, told me sure, if you wake up at say 4AM and can't get back to sleep, just start working (covid times so WFH), then you can log off after lunch and take a nap etc etc.
Problem with this is that his manager liked to hold afternoon meetings, often all the way till 6PM. There is no way he would have had the guts to tell him that yeah, I told my guy he can take a nap. So instead of flexing I would be expanding my work day. So i didn't believe him at all and just ignored his suggestion.
I quit that job btw, for that and myriad other reasons.
I have to ask you as I'm genuinely curious:
What was the worst Job you ever had? How long did you stay there and what lessons did you learned about that job if any?