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01-23-2021
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01:21 PM#32
As a security consultant for over 40 years, I highly recommend the small Digital security safe, and this is a Great price! Why you might ask? Because it's a great decoy!
It's small, cheap, and easily carried away, right? Exactly!
Put it in an obvious place where it can easily be seen and fill it with bricks or even lead or something heavy. Even better rub grease all over the back of it and put some plastic or something around the back sides to keep the grease off your furniture. Let them find it and believe it's loaded with goodies, struggle and consume their time hauling what they think is the motherload while hopefully not searching for the hidden goods!
It works!
As a security consultant for over 40 years, I highly recommend the small Digital security safe, and this is a Great price! Why you might ask? Because it's a great decoy!
It's small, cheap, and easily carried away, right? Exactly!
Put it in an obvious place where it can easily be seen and fill it with bricks or even lead or something heavy. Even better rub grease all over the back of it and put some plastic or something around the back sides to keep the grease off your furniture. Let them find it and believe it's loaded with goodies, struggle and consume their time hauling what they think is the motherload while hopefully not searching for the hidden goods!
It works!
Great idea about creating a decoy. I'm curious what the purpose of the grease would be though?
If you're storing 20k at home, absolutely buy a couple of these. Consider bolting them down and put $500 to $1000 in each and hide the rest in an actual good place.
What would appear to contain valuables, a mounted safe or a bottle of Molly McButter sitting in your spice rack?
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01-23-2021
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03:22 PM#38
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Would you use this to store a small handgun?
No, that would be a bad idea. Get a better safe for a handgun. Something like this will cause your gun to rust.
Note to everyone - the "fireproof" material releases moisture over time, and will absolutely destroy paper or metal objects over time. You can take steps like placing dessicant packs inside but I recommend the reusable ones on Amazon that you can plug-in to recharge (it heats the material and dries it out). Trust me, I've had close friends lose tens of thousands of dollars in currency in boxes like these. Throw in a cheap humidity monitor while you're at it, and open it at least once a month.
Besides that, these are too small, obvious, and totally insecure to lock much of anything up. Like the others have said this is too easy to break in to. Get yourself a good safe that can't be carried out and be aware of the moisture inside. Costco sells some (larger) heavy entry-level safes from time to time. If you must have a super-cheap safe for a gun or papers, get a non-fireproof lockbox.
Note to everyone - the "fireproof" material releases moisture over time, and will absolutely destroy paper or metal objects over time.
Thanks for everyone's comments/suggestions regarding the moisture concern and typical remedies (i.e. silica desiccants). The "fireproof" quality is appealing to me....
Has anyone tried putting important docs/money in a sealed Ziplock and then putting the bag into a safe like this? Seems to me that the bag should protect the contents from any moisture.
Thanks for everyone's comments/suggestions regarding the moisture concern and typical remedies (i.e. silica desiccants). The "fireproof" quality is appealing to me....
Has anyone tried putting important docs/money in a sealed Ziplock and then putting the bag into a safe like this? Seems to me that the bag should protect the contents from any moisture.
The air in the bag will have moisture as well, unless you're in a very dry area like Phoenix. A bag might help based on what someone else said about the box itself releasing moisture, but it won't eliminate all moisture concerns.
Yes. Get the Digital Security Safe. It is CA DOJ approved.
I was going to buy the $130 biometric safe from Amazon, but with the money saved, I bought 4 of these and will bolt them on an 8x2
I would recommend watching some youtube videos on these safes...useless. Please don't use these to store firearms. If kids have access to youtube they can be opened in no time. Use trigger locks.
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01-23-2021
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05:01 PM#44
The Fire and Water Chests are NOT security safes. They are in no way meant to protect items from being stolen. The "lock" on these is only meant to be a latch to hold the chest closed and keep sealed in case of a fire or flood. They can be popped open with a small screwdriver. And there is no way to secure them down, and obviously they are small enough to be carried away by a thief. And no the handles are not strong enough to lock them to something securely.
Here is how these chests protect against fire. Inside the plastic covering of the chest is filled with a gypsum / cement type material that holds moisture. If the chest is heated by fire, it obviously gets warmer. In doing so, it heats the moisture in the middle layer and the moisture is released inside the chest as steam. The steam can only get to 212° and will keep the temperature on the inside of the chest from rising quickly and delays the contents from catching fire until all the moisture has evaporated from the extreme heat on the outside. After this point the contents are no longer protected from the fire. This is how almost all fire safes work (including almost all fire resistant gun safes lined with drywall).
I say all this because it leads me to describe the moisture issue. The inside of these chest stay VERY damp, even with desiccant. And you really don't want them to be too dry because that's how they work. In a fire, the items inside the chest WILL get a super heater steam bath! So anything that you want to protect, whether it is papers, metal, or electronic needs to be sealed in a waterproof container. Anything that can withstand a dishwasher should work, including Ziploc bags and Tupperware should work. So seal your items inside the waterproof container with desiccant packs inside the waterproof container with your valuables. The instructions say this too.
So just know what you're getting with these. They do serve a purpose. Just don't expect security. These are also great to put inside a larger gun safe with your valuables inside, especially papers and electronics like flash drives and hard drives.
I would recommend watching some youtube videos on these safes...useless. Please don't use these to store firearms. If kids have access to youtube they can be opened in no time. Use trigger locks.
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It's small, cheap, and easily carried away, right? Exactly!
Put it in an obvious place where it can easily be seen and fill it with bricks or even lead or something heavy. Even better rub grease all over the back of it and put some plastic or something around the back sides to keep the grease off your furniture. Let them find it and believe it's loaded with goodies, struggle and consume their time hauling what they think is the motherload while hopefully not searching for the hidden goods!
It works!
It's small, cheap, and easily carried away, right? Exactly!
Put it in an obvious place where it can easily be seen and fill it with bricks or even lead or something heavy. Even better rub grease all over the back of it and put some plastic or something around the back sides to keep the grease off your furniture. Let them find it and believe it's loaded with goodies, struggle and consume their time hauling what they think is the motherload while hopefully not searching for the hidden goods!
It works!
What would appear to contain valuables, a mounted safe or a bottle of Molly McButter sitting in your spice rack?
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Note to everyone - the "fireproof" material releases moisture over time, and will absolutely destroy paper or metal objects over time. You can take steps like placing dessicant packs inside but I recommend the reusable ones on Amazon that you can plug-in to recharge (it heats the material and dries it out). Trust me, I've had close friends lose tens of thousands of dollars in currency in boxes like these. Throw in a cheap humidity monitor while you're at it, and open it at least once a month.
Besides that, these are too small, obvious, and totally insecure to lock much of anything up. Like the others have said this is too easy to break in to. Get yourself a good safe that can't be carried out and be aware of the moisture inside. Costco sells some (larger) heavy entry-level safes from time to time. If you must have a super-cheap safe for a gun or papers, get a non-fireproof lockbox.
Has anyone tried putting important docs/money in a sealed Ziplock and then putting the bag into a safe like this? Seems to me that the bag should protect the contents from any moisture.
Has anyone tried putting important docs/money in a sealed Ziplock and then putting the bag into a safe like this? Seems to me that the bag should protect the contents from any moisture.
I was going to buy the $130 biometric safe from Amazon, but with the money saved, I bought 4 of these and will bolt them on an 8x2
Here is how these chests protect against fire. Inside the plastic covering of the chest is filled with a gypsum / cement type material that holds moisture. If the chest is heated by fire, it obviously gets warmer. In doing so, it heats the moisture in the middle layer and the moisture is released inside the chest as steam. The steam can only get to 212° and will keep the temperature on the inside of the chest from rising quickly and delays the contents from catching fire until all the moisture has evaporated from the extreme heat on the outside. After this point the contents are no longer protected from the fire. This is how almost all fire safes work (including almost all fire resistant gun safes lined with drywall).
I say all this because it leads me to describe the moisture issue. The inside of these chest stay VERY damp, even with desiccant. And you really don't want them to be too dry because that's how they work. In a fire, the items inside the chest WILL get a super heater steam bath! So anything that you want to protect, whether it is papers, metal, or electronic needs to be sealed in a waterproof container. Anything that can withstand a dishwasher should work, including Ziploc bags and Tupperware should work. So seal your items inside the waterproof container with desiccant packs inside the waterproof container with your valuables. The instructions say this too.
So just know what you're getting with these. They do serve a purpose. Just don't expect security. These are also great to put inside a larger gun safe with your valuables inside, especially papers and electronics like flash drives and hard drives.
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