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Infinity Reference Speakers: RS152 Loudspeakers (Pair) $130, RC252 Center

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The best deals on these infinity sales are the RC263 center and the pair of R162s for around 150 bucks each. I have the RC263, 162s, R253s and the R12 sub. I have done a lot of testing and there is not a whole lot of difference between the R162s and R253s when used as fronts. I don't really listen to a lot of music so cant speak to that, but use them for daily tv viewing, sports and movies. The R162s are terrific and an absolute steal @ 150 for the pair. The RC263 center is probably the best deal for the price but since that is sold out now, the best budget setup in my opinion would be the RC252 center, and either 4 162s or 2 162s and 2 of the smaller 152 bookshelves for surrounds. The subwoofer is also very nice for the price and definitely needed in a 5.1 setup.

I personally also prefer the looks of the R162s on nice speaker stands over for fronts over the R253s which are kind of wobbly especially on carpet. Dont get me wrong, I really like the R253s but might send them back and opt for another pair of the 162s instead.
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Would doing a 5.2 setup of these be better than the Costco klipsch atmos surround system with two klipsch? Strictly for movie watching. Thanks!
Keep in mind you are comparing a 5.0.2 vs 5.2.
The Klipsch you will need a "Atmos" capable receiver the other does not. You also need a 8-12tf flat smooth ceiling for the "Atmos" built in modules for best performance.

If you "need" two subs you might want to skip getting two of these subs and start a budget for a better sub, skimping on a sub is not a good thing to do with a HT setup.


Which one is "better" to you no one can answer.
Since this deal pops up often and Costco has a good return policy maybe giving the Costco deal a shot and see what you think.

They will sound different but either way it's a incremental difference at the end of the day.
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Most likely the R263 and the R162 but I think the 263's are sold out.
These pop up regularly so you have to be quick next time it does.

I would suggest skipping "Atmos" at this level.
The money would be better served adding it to a good sub, $500-700 range.
Look for a sale on SVS, Monolith or even HSU.
Most budget oriented people who are trying to building a really nice system arent going to spend 500-700 dollars on a sub. They can get the R12 in this deal for 169 which is more than adequate for most average users. Unless you have a giant 1500 sq foot theater room this is going in, spending that much on a sub is overkill.

It wouldnt make any sense to buy the RC252 for 100, 4 R162s for 300 so a total of 400 for all the speakers and then spend 500-700 on a sub
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Nice. I missed the sub last time. Was tempted to get towers and center, but I'm fairly happy with my current setup of Monoprice towers and a tweaked Micca center channel, so I held off for now. This is replacing an ancient 8" HTIB Onkyo sub from 2004. Should be a tremendous upgrade.
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Most budget oriented people who are trying to building a really nice system arent going to spend 500-700 dollars on a sub. They can get the R12 in this deal for 169 which is more than adequate for most average users. Unless you have a giant 1500 sq foot theater room this is going in, spending that much on a sub is overkill.

It wouldnt make any sense to buy the RC252 for 100, 4 R162s for 300 so a total of 400 for all the speakers and then spend 500-700 on a sub
That's what makes this so difficult if not nearly impossible, way to many variables.
What is "adequate" or what is "a really nice system" for each person?

Take for instance people suggesting the two pairs of R162's with the R12. 162's only go down to 49Hz and the 12 only to 29hz, is that a "really nice system" or "adequate"?
Don't for the center for at least another $100 but most people say for the money getting the 263 is a smart choice.

For sake of argument take the R263's at 38Hz and say a SVS SB 2000 at 19Hz for $500.

Pretty close to that Costco price that these "budget oriented people" are comparing this to.

Many people are replacing speakers and how long would it take you to save $150 for the center then $150 for surrounds?

People always make fun of these "packages" on here on how they are not a good deal/choice,not much different than 1st common recommendation TBH.

I propose most people do have the budget they just don't budget correctly but that's just my opinion from building many many setups.
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I have the P363's and looking for something newer. Would the R253's be a big upgrade by chance?
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I got Sub R12 from last sale. I also own SVS PB2000
I had to place R12 in a corner as it needs the boost from corner placement and it definitely gives me good enough bass for music and most movies. That 300w amp powers this sub well so it sounds powerful in the range it operates 29hz and above.
Going from svs to R12 it a substantial downgrade as it should be but R12 is a lot if sub for the sale price. It's certainly better sub than the Dayton sub1200 which is weak due to its amp
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How do these speakers and brand compare to the Jamo s809 surround sound setup?

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It really comes down to your usage and budget.

Jamo is the better value, but the speakers are less accurate with respect to sound production and have been known to sound a little bit tinny in the high frequency ranges. Still, you would be getting exponentially better sound than an equivalently priced sound bar "because physics".

The Infinity Reference line actually uses some of the higher end Harman Kardon components, making it sneaky good value. And many RC263 owners claim they don't even need a sub, although for full audio spectrum replication I would dispute that.

I went the budget system route, then slowly switched over components to end up with an Infinity Reference 5.1 setup. If I could do it over again, I would have started with a super nice 2.1 setup and then added additional components over time. Most content - music, TV shows, YouTube, even a lot of movies - don't really take advantage of 5.1 audio. And when you start getting into 7.2 setups, you're getting into 3DTV level gimmickry where there's just not enough content to justify the expense at this point.

If you don't abuse them, a good set of speakers will last decades, so it's not quite the same investment risk-wise as a TV where OLEDs could drop in price, MicroLEDs could deprecate OLEDs, one cheap electronic component could brick it once it's just out of warranty, etc.
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Is there a good 5.1 setup recommendation someone could make from the speakers on sale?
I've got the following setup going, and really love it:

Sub: R12

Center: RC252

Fronts: R162

Surrounds: RS152
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Others may have a better time. I ordered another center channel with this company. Waited 8 weeks and they just cancelled my order.
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That's what makes this so difficult if not nearly impossible, way to many variables.
What is "adequate" or what is "a really nice system" for each person?

Take for instance people suggesting the two pairs of R162's with the R12. 162's only go down to 49Hz and the 12 only to 29hz, is that a "really nice system" or "adequate"?
Don't for the center for at least another $100 but most people say for the money getting the 263 is a smart choice.

For sake of argument take the R263's at 38Hz and say a SVS SB 2000 at 19Hz for $500.

Pretty close to that Costco price that these "budget oriented people" are comparing this to.

Many people are replacing speakers and how long would it take you to save $150 for the center then $150 for surrounds?

People always make fun of these "packages" on here on how they are not a good deal/choice,not much different than 1st common recommendation TBH.

I propose most people do have the budget they just don't budget correctly but that's just my opinion from building many many setups.
You have to factor in price also. R162s at 49 Hz and 6.5 woofer vs R253 at double that price for 5.25 woofer and only 8 hz lower. Granted the 253s have the dedicated 5.25 midrange also. The 263s are triple the price. I agree with you that it's all relative and many variables involved but my point is that you can have a system that is more than adequate for 95% of people for 600 bucks via these infinity sales. That being the rc263, 4 162s and the R12. The Klipsch Costco deal is 900 and the Infinity speakers are better. Especially the rc263 which blow the klipsch center out of the water. The Rc263 blows almost every center out of the water and for 150, the price is insane.

Pair of 162s at 150 is a steal. Pair of 253s which I have also for 320 is still a good deal but I can tell little difference between those and 162s (I am no audiophile though). I can't speak for the 263s but those are 460 for the pair.

Also most people probably want their sub crossed over at 80 so the front and centers don't need to go any lower. So for the R12 sub at 160 and 29Hz , you lose about 9 hz for the 700 dollar subs getting down to 19hz. Is it worth it? Not for me and I'm guessing maybe not for people on slickdeals.
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Most budget oriented people who are trying to building a really nice system arent going to spend 500-700 dollars on a sub. They can get the R12 in this deal for 169 which is more than adequate for most average users. Unless you have a giant 1500 sq foot theater room this is going in, spending that much on a sub is overkill.

It wouldnt make any sense to buy the RC252 for 100, 4 R162s for 300 so a total of 400 for all the speakers and then spend 500-700 on a sub
Why?? I did the RC263, r263 towes, r152 rears and added an HSU 15" sub for $950 lol. The center and sub are really only 2 speakers that matter. It all sounds friggen amazing.
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You have to factor in price also. R162s at 49 Hz and 6.5 woofer vs R253 at double that price for 5.25 woofer and only 8 hz lower. Granted the 253s have the dedicated 5.25 midrange also. The 263s are triple the price. I agree with you that it's all relative and many variables involved but my point is that you can have a system that is more than adequate for 95% of people for 600 bucks via these infinity sales. That being the rc263, 4 162s and the R12. The Klipsch Costco deal is 900 and the Infinity speakers are better. Especially the rc263 which blow the klipsch center out of the water. The Rc263 blows almost every center out of the water and for 150, the price is insane.

Pair of 162s at 150 is a steal. Pair of 253s which I have also for 320 is still a good deal but I can tell little difference (I am no audiophile though)
I can't speak for the 263s but those are 460 for the pair.

Also most people probably want their sub crossed over at 80 so the front and centers don't need to go any lower.
HZ dont matter on any speaker. You cross all of them off at 80hz anyways for a theater. I cross my r263's at 80 as well. ALL cpeakers get crossed at at least 80, dont care what speakers even if they have a 12" driver. Which I see you mentioned at the end =)
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Others may have a better time. I ordered another center channel with this company. Waited 8 weeks and they just cancelled my order.
That's crazy. I ordered 6 speakers and got them the next day. They ship from Louisville, KY in case people are wondering.
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HZ dont matter on any speaker. You cross all of them off at 80hz anyways for a theater. I cross my r263's at 80 as well. ALL cpeakers get crossed at at least 80, dont care what speakers even if they have a 12" driver. Which I see you mentioned at the end =)
Yep that was my point. I was just trying to respond to supermanrob in comparing the 253s with the R162s
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