APC BR1350MS 1350VA/810W UPS & APC PE6U4 Surge Protector Bundle

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02-22-2021 at 04:40 PM #31

Just ordered about 30 min ago, email confirmation came in but shows the item as backordered, even though the website is showing it "In Stock" so be prepared to wait for this, FYI

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02-22-2021 at 04:50 PM #32

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Just ordered about 30 min ago, email confirmation came in but shows the item as backordered, even though the website is showing it "In Stock" so be prepared to wait for this, FYI

Or cancellation...
One of my orders in 2020 got cancelled without explanation 🤣
Will see
$135 is very good price....

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02-22-2021 at 04:50 PM #33

My friend bought one of these last year. It caught on fire a couple months ago. The replacement APC sent him caught on fire about a month after he got it. Apart from that, it worked great! None of his equipment was harmed, but if he hadn't smelled the smoke, it might have been bad. It was powering a couple Raspberry Pis and a couple routers and switches.

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02-22-2021 at 05:01 PM #34

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My friend bought one of these last year. It caught on fire a couple months ago. The replacement APC sent him caught on fire about a month after he got it. Apart from that, it worked great! None of his equipment was harmed, but if he hadn't smelled the smoke, it might have been bad. It was powering a couple Raspberry Pis and a couple routers and switches.

Do You mean burn out?
If catching fire 🔥,iit will burn your house/apt
Ups not design to catch fire. Burn up is common while protecting..

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02-22-2021 at 05:04 PM #35

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My friend bought one of these last year. It caught on fire a couple months ago. The replacement APC sent him caught on fire about a month after he got it. Apart from that, it worked great! None of his equipment was harmed, but if he hadn't smelled the smoke, it might have been bad. It was powering a couple Raspberry Pis and a couple routers and switches.

I liked how you said "Apart from that, it worked great!" .. after catching fire TWICE

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02-22-2021 at 05:15 PM #36

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The 1350VA rating is what the INVERTER can deliver. The runtime is determined by the capacity of the BATTERIES, the load, and a few other variables. On a related note, I absolutely despise how companies advertise UPS's. They always advertise the VA rating. In the era of PFC power supplies, the VA rating is even more useless. Even in the past, it seemed most UPS manufacturers pulled VA rating out of the air. I suggest looking at the max wattage rating instead. I always recommend getting something rated MUCH higher than your equipment needs.

My other big issue is that the manufacturers don't tell you the battery capacity. That is what has the biggest impact on runtime, aside from load. For decades, they have been pairing larger inverters with smaller batteries. I remember encountering an ancient 200VA UPS with a 7Ah battery and years later a 350VA model (from the same company) with a 3Ah battery. In my opinion, they use batteries that are too small for the inverters they are paired with. If the inverter is loaded anywhere near capacity, it seems to greatly decrease the lifespan of the battery. This is why I suggest buying greatly oversized models these days.

One reason for these products (higher current low capacity) is to provide stability in places with frequent momentary drops in power. I lived in a house that would blip just long enough to reset the clocks at least once a week. I probably don't need actual battery backup for continued us, just uninterrupted power and maybe a few minutes to shut down if the power is actually off.

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02-22-2021 at 05:16 PM #37

Who thinks these are BRAND NEW or REFURB?

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02-22-2021 at 05:28 PM #38

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Here is battery specs, for those interested. [two 9ah batteries]

2x replaceable CSB HR1234W 12V 9Ah batteries

When the batteries die in these UPS' I've had good luck replacing these 9ah ups batteries with Power-Sonic PS-1290 battery, cheaper than buying through APC and they have more lead in them. (they weigh heavier)

I figured that was probably what was in this model. In the old days, a UPS with this size inverter would have closer to two 17Ah batteries.

I will say that I have NOT had good luck with Power-Sonic batteries. They are among the worst I've tried. They had both the worst initial capacity and overall lifespan of any brand I tried. Universal Battery (UB), also known as Universal Power Group (UPG) is the other brand I avoid. Both do tend to be very cheap but I've never seen any UPS come with either brand.

I've had the best luck with CSB and Panasonic. Enersys, Long, and BB Battery also tend to be decent. I've actually had a few CSB batteries last over a decade, well beyond the usual 3-5 year lifespan. In my opinion, CSB is probably the best value. They're moderately priced but seem to hold up quite well. They're also the most common brand you'll see if you peel off those "APC certified" stickers.

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02-22-2021 at 06:16 PM #39

I bought this model from Tigerdirect before. It exploded on me, blew the Mosfets during a power surge/outtage. burning smell and F02 error. APC was relative quick on the replacement though. 3 days to respond to my email and 1 week after to replace.

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02-22-2021 at 06:17 PM #40

Thanks a ton OP. In for one. I just found that my 7 year old CyberPower version of this thing died last week. Need a new one. I think it was actually struck by lightening back in August but I didn't notice until I rebuilt my POC last week and I couldn't get it to work on my new build.

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02-22-2021 at 06:29 PM #41

Is this pure or simulated sine? I couldn't see anything in the description so I'm assuming simulated unless someone else found something

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02-22-2021 at 06:34 PM #42

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The 1350VA rating is what the INVERTER can deliver. The runtime is determined by the capacity of the BATTERIES, the load, and a few other variables. On a related note, I absolutely despise how companies advertise UPS's. They always advertise the VA rating. In the era of PFC power supplies, the VA rating is even more useless. Even in the past, it seemed most UPS manufacturers pulled VA rating out of the air. I suggest looking at the max wattage rating instead. I always recommend getting something rated MUCH higher than your equipment needs.

My other big issue is that the manufacturers don't tell you the battery capacity. That is what has the biggest impact on runtime, aside from load. For decades, they have been pairing larger inverters with smaller batteries. I remember encountering an ancient 200VA UPS with a 7Ah battery and years later a 350VA model (from the same company) with a 3Ah battery. In my opinion, they use batteries that are too small for the inverters they are paired with. If the inverter is loaded anywhere near capacity, it seems to greatly decrease the lifespan of the battery. This is why I suggest buying greatly oversized models these days.

I have this and it's a joke.
You have about 10 minutes at 500W.
That's about what my computer and monitor are at.
So about enough time to save your work and shutdown.

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02-22-2021 at 06:37 PM #43

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Is this pure or simulated sine? I couldn't see anything in the description so I'm assuming simulated unless someone else found something

Lol. Could you check or search from uncle google...
This is the spec https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/pr...P-BR1350MS

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02-22-2021 at 06:42 PM #44

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Lol. Could you check or search from uncle google...
This is the spec https://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/pr...P-BR1350MS

But is it sine or cosine ?

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02-22-2021 at 06:53 PM #45

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Any body knows if this can easily be mounted under a desk? Sideways ..

Do I need to buy a mounting kit of some sort?

Not sure if serious.

If so, yeah, anything can be mounted. However, depending on your load this will run warm and needs ventilation. Also, the batteries are heavy, secure it well!

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