This is tempting for me, I didn't bite on the 1500VA one from staples for $130 last year debating if I should get this one but it is 1350VA but comes with the surge protector.
The 1st model mostly burning our mosfet converter. It is not fire....
It burnout mosfets and generating smoke with plastic burning....
I believe apc did not sell 1st model for years. This deal is for current model should have better protection on mosfets
Thanks for the info. When you replace the battery, does the new battery fit into the old battery space? Or does it kinda stick out? Wondering if the fit is exact.
Also, do you need to batteries or just one when to replace? Not sure why the comment below mentioned two batteries.
Exact fitment. Yes this model in the deal has two (2) 12v 9ah batteries.
You need to replace both at the same time. You would be purchasing two (2) batteries when the batteries in the UPS eventual fail.
(I use my noco genius charger first before giving up on my batteries, in repair mode)
"repairs deeply discharged or sulfated (desulfation) batteries by pulsing small amounts of current. This can recover deeply discharged & sulphated batteries with pulse charging. This feature is an advanced recovery mode for repairing and storing old, idle, damaged, stratified or sulfated 12 volt batteries."
Exact fitment. Yes this model in the deal has two (2) 12v 9ah batteries.
You need to replace both at the same time. You would be purchasing two (2) batteries when the batteries in the UPS eventual fail.
(I use my noco genius charger first before giving up on my batteries, in repair mode)
"repairs deeply discharged or sulfated (desulfation) batteries by pulsing small amounts of current. This can recover deeply discharged & sulphated batteries with pulse charging. This feature is an advanced recovery mode for repairing and storing old, idle, damaged, stratified or sulfated 12 volt batteries."
I am looking at the replacement battery from APC for this unit, it looks like it comes attached together, how do you attach the two third party batteries?
Also would you happen to know what batteries the 1500VA one uses?
It may only apply to the BR1500MS, which was replaced by the BR1500MS2 on account of the V1 poofing into smoke and sometimes flames. Some retailers are still selling the BR1500MS even though it's dangerous and extremely failure-prone, so the buyer is required to know what's safe and what isn't or else.
APC makes this BR1350MS model, but also makes a BR1350M2, which indicates to me that this is very probably the V1 model of the 1350/Sine that likely has the same problem as the V1 of the 1500/Sine. APC is probably clearing them fast, through known-criminal retailers who don't care about their image (Tiger Direct ftw), before they release the corrected BR1350MS2.
The 1350VA rating is what the INVERTER can deliver. The runtime is determined by the capacity of the BATTERIES, the load, and a few other variables. On a related note, I absolutely despise how companies advertise UPS's. They always advertise the VA rating. In the era of PFC power supplies, the VA rating is even more useless. Even in the past, it seemed most UPS manufacturers pulled VA rating out of the air. I suggest looking at the max wattage rating instead. I always recommend getting something rated MUCH higher than your equipment needs.
My other big issue is that the manufacturers don't tell you the battery capacity. That is what has the biggest impact on runtime, aside from load. For decades, they have been pairing larger inverters with smaller batteries. I remember encountering an ancient 200VA UPS with a 7Ah battery and years later a 350VA model (from the same company) with a 3Ah battery. In my opinion, they use batteries that are too small for the inverters they are paired with. If the inverter is loaded anywhere near capacity, it seems to greatly decrease the lifespan of the battery. This is why I suggest buying greatly oversized models these days.
Agreed. Unit shipping weight is almost a better indication of run time and capacity. Maybe weight div by max watt. : )
It may only apply to the BR1500MS, which was replaced by the BR1500MS2 on account of the V1 poofing into smoke and sometimes flames. Some retailers are still selling the BR1500MS even though it's dangerous and extremely failure-prone, so the buyer is required to know what's safe and what isn't or else.
APC makes this BR1350MS model, but also makes a BR1350M2, which indicates to me that this is very probably the V1 model of the 1350/Sine that likely has the same problem as the V1 of the 1500/Sine. APC is probably clearing them fast, through known-criminal retailers who don't care about their image (Tiger Direct ftw), before they release the corrected BR1350MS2.
If the batteries fail within 3 years, APC will replace them on their dime, no questions asked. I know, I have a set to return using their prepaid label right now.
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The worst case as happens in ups. Burn out mosfets. You can smell melting plastics...not fire.
It burnout mosfets and generating smoke with plastic burning....
I believe apc did not sell 1st model for years. This deal is for current model should have better protection on mosfets
Also, do you need to batteries or just one when to replace? Not sure why the comment below mentioned two batteries.
You need to replace both at the same time. You would be purchasing two (2) batteries when the batteries in the UPS eventual fail.
(I use my noco genius charger first before giving up on my batteries, in repair mode)
"repairs deeply discharged or sulfated (desulfation) batteries by pulsing small amounts of current. This can recover deeply discharged & sulphated batteries with pulse charging. This feature is an advanced recovery mode for repairing and storing old, idle, damaged, stratified or sulfated 12 volt batteries."
You need to replace both at the same time. You would be purchasing two (2) batteries when the batteries in the UPS eventual fail.
(I use my noco genius charger first before giving up on my batteries, in repair mode)
"repairs deeply discharged or sulfated (desulfation) batteries by pulsing small amounts of current. This can recover deeply discharged & sulphated batteries with pulse charging. This feature is an advanced recovery mode for repairing and storing old, idle, damaged, stratified or sulfated 12 volt batteries."
Also would you happen to know what batteries the 1500VA one uses?
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It may only apply to the BR1500MS, which was replaced by the BR1500MS2 on account of the V1 poofing into smoke and sometimes flames. Some retailers are still selling the BR1500MS even though it's dangerous and extremely failure-prone, so the buyer is required to know what's safe and what isn't or else.
APC makes this BR1350MS model, but also makes a BR1350M2, which indicates to me that this is very probably the V1 model of the 1350/Sine that likely has the same problem as the V1 of the 1500/Sine. APC is probably clearing them fast, through known-criminal retailers who don't care about their image (Tiger Direct ftw), before they release the corrected BR1350MS2.
My other big issue is that the manufacturers don't tell you the battery capacity. That is what has the biggest impact on runtime, aside from load. For decades, they have been pairing larger inverters with smaller batteries. I remember encountering an ancient 200VA UPS with a 7Ah battery and years later a 350VA model (from the same company) with a 3Ah battery. In my opinion, they use batteries that are too small for the inverters they are paired with. If the inverter is loaded anywhere near capacity, it seems to greatly decrease the lifespan of the battery. This is why I suggest buying greatly oversized models these days.
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It may only apply to the BR1500MS, which was replaced by the BR1500MS2 on account of the V1 poofing into smoke and sometimes flames. Some retailers are still selling the BR1500MS even though it's dangerous and extremely failure-prone, so the buyer is required to know what's safe and what isn't or else.
APC makes this BR1350MS model, but also makes a BR1350M2, which indicates to me that this is very probably the V1 model of the 1350/Sine that likely has the same problem as the V1 of the 1500/Sine. APC is probably clearing them fast, through known-criminal retailers who don't care about their image (Tiger Direct ftw), before they release the corrected BR1350MS2.
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