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Bought! Was waiting for it to drop to my target price and it finally has. Any recommendations for a motherboard to pair with this? My budget is around $200. I normally go with Asus but I heard that the Asus z490 chipset is one of the few motherboards that can't be updated through BIOS to PCIe 4.0. Fact or fiction? I'll use this mostly for gaming.
Asus will only support PCIe 4.0 on the first GPU slot not the NVME m2 slot which is where the biggest performance difference will be.

Along with that Comet Lake CPUs do not support PCIe 4.0. So even if you buy a Z490 and update the firmware for PCIe 4.0 it won't matter. You'll need a new Rocket Lake CPU to take advantage of PCIe 4.0.

As far as Z490 recommendations I recommend the MSI MPG Gaming Edge or the Tomahawk. The Gigabyte Aorus Elite is also good yet above $200.
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As a guy with a 5900x i wish I would have stayed with intel. My 5900X as well as many others if you check the amd tech support forums under processors have had really bad stability issues, random BSOD etc. Bios upgrades and chipset patches have made it a bit more stable but it's still not rock solid and for someone spending this kind of money on a processor you'd want it to work right out of the box. I will never buy an AMD again
I have a 5900x and have zero issues compared to what you are going through? The CPU is a beast and idles at 41C with my cooler.

The AMD issue of wonky USB is certainly a concern but not impacting me too much. Hope they fix it.
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The included stock cooler on the 10900 is inconsequential as nobody in their right mind would use that 65W cooler to run that beast of a CPU. Once it turbos (set by default) that stock cooler is toast and you'll be throttled.The 10850k also has a higher all core turbo at stock than the 10900. The 10850K is basically a lower binned 10900K and price means nothing considering there's a $2 difference.
Incorrect. It's a 65W cooler for a 65W processor. Intel isn't going to sell a cooler that's going to throttle at turbo. That would be silly given the AMD competition.

The 10900 is the killer deal here.
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how about i9-10850k compare with i9 10900?
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What should I get the i9-10850k or the i90900?? I will never overclock
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10850k = 10900.

They are the same, except the 10850k is overclockable. At the current prices, everyone should buy the 10850k whether or not you can/will overclock because the resale value will be better and you save $2 today.
The 10850k and 10900 aren't the same. The 10850k is a lower binned 10900k and the 10900 has been tested to be very power efficient:

https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...00/18.html

The 10900 also comes with a stock cooler. If you don't plan to overclock I would recommend the 10900 unless you want to squeeze the 10-20% performance for the extra 50%+ power consumption.

The 10900 can also be overclocked and power limits raised if needed as well.
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Incorrect. It's a 65W cooler for a 65W processor. Intel isn't going to sell a cooler that's going to throttle at turbo. That would be silly given the AMD competition.

The 10900 is the killer deal here.
I agree. Bought the 10900 for an ESXi itx build.
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The 10850k and 10900 aren't the same. The 10850k is a lower binned 10900k and the 10900 has been tested to be very power efficient:

https://www.techpowerup.com/revie...00/18.html

The 10900 also comes with a stock cooler. If you don't plan to overclock I would recommend the 10900 unless you want to squeeze the 10-20% performance for the extra 50%+ power consumption.

The 10900 can also be overclocked and power limits raised if needed as well.
We are in agreement. Note that it's actually about 100% extra power consumption. (125W vs 65W).
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The 10900 is the killer deal here.
the 10700k is the killer deal here for most folks gamers included.
the 10850k if you need extra 2 cores for whatever u do. with a 10900 non k you are forfeiting any OC headroom and that intel trashsink with the i9 is worth 5-10 bux, unless of course for whatever reason the board u bought is not a Z490/590 chipset.

edit: Either way all 3 are excellent deals just depends on your rest of the setup needs wants etc.
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Yes. Same sockets
This is true in this specific case, but going by socket is not good advice. See AM4, with not all motherboards and Cpu's being cross-compatible, or Intel 1151 where the first two generations are artificially segregated from the latter two.

I say this as someone with a Z170 that plans on BIOS modding to be able to upgrade to a from a 6600k to a 9700k. My wife has an X370 and 1600 that can only be upgraded to a 3600, unless a BIOS mod comes out that will allow for a 5600.
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Incorrect. It's a 65W cooler for a 65W processor. Intel isn't going to sell a cooler that's going to throttle at turbo. That would be silly given the AMD competition.

The 10900 is the killer deal here.
Intel's tdp is measured at the base clock. Lock your cpu to the base clock by disabling turbo, and it will run fine on a 65w cooler, but with much lower performance.

With turbo enabled (it is by default) the cpu draws and outputs much more than 65w, so a 65w cooler can't keep up.

For example, the i9 10900k is a 125w part but draws well over 300w under load with turbo enabled for example.

The non k will certainly have lower power consumption and heat output, but it will definitely exceed 65w, (probably closer to 175w If I had to guess) and again can't be cooled by a 65w cooler. The article you got your quote from literally mentioned that once power limits are unlocked power consumption will go up.

Feel free to Google what happens when you try running an i9 with a stock cooler.

This a known thing amongst Intel users that the stock coolers are a joke.
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Great prices. I upgraded from a 6th Gen to 10th i7-10700k, couldn't be happier (except for the $409 price I paid last summer, but I knew I paid the premium upon release).

614 single core in CPU-Z and 6150 on multi.

Bios is set to 1.285 fixed, LLC High, Gigabyte Vision D board
52 for 2 cores, 5.1 for 5 cores, 5.0 for last core.

Runs great and cool, even with my Hyper 212 Evo Black RGB with dual fans.

If you don't need PCIe4 now, jump on this. If you have 8th/9th Gen, wait for 12th Gen.
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10850k is tempting for that price but Alder Lake 10nm with DDR5 will be announced later this year. AMD will most likely respond with newer CPU and DDR5.
Problem with Alder Lake is that instead of adding more big cores, Intel limited the big cores to just 8 and added a bunch of little cores to it. Makes perfect sense on a laptop with limited power budget, but mainly useless on a desktop system. I'm not ready to believe that Intel will easily be able to compensate with just 8 real cores with 6-8 small ones vs 10 real cores. Windows 10 will also need to be updated significantly with a better scheduler to delegate between the big and small cores.
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Why i9 slower than i7
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So cinebench is giving the 10850K roughly the same benchmarks as a 3600xt which is half the price.

https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/com...600xt-1610

am I missing something here? The Ryzen chip has a higher base frequency but 4 less threads, but still seems to be close in benchmarks.
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GOOD PRICE FOR i9 10850k
Yup a lot better than last week Best Buy sale for $403
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