Save $20 (Model: NV4108E)
Don't let the boys at IP-Cam-Talk lead you to believe Blue Iris is the only solution you need (as it appears they work for Blue Iris).
Had good luck so far with this NVR using 3rd party cameras.
Note:
1) Hard Drive Not Included
2) If you plan on using non-Amcrest cameras, would recommend getting an external POE switch or injector to configure your 3rd party camera (setting up camera settings/resolution and "10.1.1.x" IP and subnet/etc ) then connect to the Amcrest and manually configure it under "Customirzed" camera.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0743WP62Q
Amcrest's NV4108E-HS 8CH POE NVR supports hard drives up to 6 Terabytes, while Featuring 8CH Recording, Playback & Live View in Up to 8MP/4K Resolution @ Real-Time 30fps.
Advanced H.265 compression technology lets you save on storage space which allows for longer recording times. H.265 technology compresses your video without sacrificing any of the UltraHD video quality. Intelligent search, playback, and backup functions provide enhanced ease of use and security (for example, motion detection event and exact search functions that are accurate to one second).
Plug & Play setup, Easy to configure, access and control. Scan QR Code on POE NVR from "Amcrest View" app to instantly access live viewing and playback. Connects to and manages all the POE IP cameras on your network directly through their ethernet cables for ultimate ease and convenience in a home security system.
Max 80Mbps Incoming Bandwidth, records 7 cameras @ 4K using H.264. Records 8 cameras @ 4K by changing default settings from H.264 to H.265 and adjusting bit rate to 1792 on each camera for maximum optimization. Conveniently packaged with extras such as USB mouse, network cable, and quick start guide.
Includes USB backup feature for peace of mind. All systems CE & FCC certified with UL compliant power supplies. Guaranteed for a Full Year from purchase with US Support and US Warranty offered exclusively by Amcrest.
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Side note, what are some good software solutions besides BI? Genuinely curious as I'm thinking of getting a PoE switch and cameras to work with a computer (sorry ThanksDude I know you're rolling your eyes at this). I know BI doesn't have an Android TV or Roku app to watch the live feed, are there others that do?
With that said, here are some software solutions note in this thread:
Shinobi (Linux)
Milestone Xprotect Essential + [milestonesys.com] (Windows)
Thanks.
I have since upgraded to a Ryzen 3900x /64GB 3200 , which id rather not keep on 24/7 but the experience made me not want to try it again. Which is why i entered a thread about an NVR...
lets see - i still have the license - maybe ill give it another shot
With that said, here are some software solutions note in this thread:
Shinobi (Linux)
Milestone Xprotect Essential + [milestonesys.com] (Windows)
Thanks.
Looks like there's already been some great discussion by SD'ers here which makes me very a happy to see the SD community really getting better on this topic of security cameras https://static.slickdealscdn.com/ima...lies/smile.gif
My quick take:
Dahua OEM
Looks like the NVR Lite version
If you can afford better, I like the Dahua OEM NVR pro models which can take 2 HDDs, and always recommend going with the model up of poe ports you think you need - as most end up finding that they want to add 1-2+ cameras more than they originally thought of needing.
( example if you think you need a 4port NVR go with 8 port, if you think you need a 8 port go with a 16 port ... same applies for a PoE switch )
NVRs in general are lower processing powered, and require the cameras to do much of the work - thus match the NVR OEM with the Camera OEMs.
If you want to mix and match camera OEMs, or want more flexibility - many ipcamtalk members really like a used Business class PC ( newer gen ) + PoE switch + Blue Iris VMS software. ( you can also get Dahua OEM SmartPSS to run on a PC.. free download... but you'll want Dahua OEM cameras )
Many ways to do this.. NVRs imho are not as reliable as a enterprise PoE switch ( even used ) + Business Class PC ( even used ).
Also NVRs fans are louder than a Business Class PC .. tho adding a Enterprise Switch into the mix should add more noise...
i already have a spare i5 pc. should i go NVR route or go blue iris?
would a blueiris setup do 30 fps on all cameras and perhaps a higher bitrate than a nvr?
thinking about getting 4 amcrest turret IP5M-T1179EW-28MM and 2 Reolink RLC-410 5MP(choosing these as i wasnt able to find a similar amcrest bullet with a microphone.IP5M-B1186EW-28MM this is the one i was looking at)
With that said, here are some software solutions note in this thread:
Shinobi (Linux)
Milestone Xprotect Essential + [milestonesys.com] (Windows)
Thanks.
https://shinobi.video/
shinobi looks like its free?
is milestone also free?
https://www.milestonesy
has anyone here used either one of these?
i already have a spare i5 pc. should i go NVR route or go blue iris?
would a blueiris setup do 30 fps on all cameras and perhaps a higher bitrate than a nvr?
thinking about getting 4 amcrest turret IP5M-T1179EW-28MM and 2 Reolink RLC-410 5MP(choosing these as i wasnt able to find a similar amcrest bullet with a microphone.IP5M-B1186EW-28MM this is the one i was looking at)
So depending on your needs and willingness and ability to mess with tweaking BI to suit you. Also keep in mind what Matt stated, "NVRs in general are lower processing powered" and calculate your cost for having your PC + POE Switch on 24/7 and if you are okay will all that, you got your answer.
So depending on your needs and willingness and ability to mess with tweaking BI to suit you. Also keep in mind what Matt stated, "NVRs in general are lower processing powered" and calculate your cost for having your PC + POE Switch on 24/7 and if you are okay will all that, you got your answer.
in order to test BI i will have to buy a poe switch to test with the 6 cameras. as the cameras dont come with power adapter and i dont have a nvr
is there a major cost difference with running a pc vs running a NVR? i havent looked at this aspect. is it more like $10(NVR) vs $15 (PC) or is it more like $25 vs $100 per month kind of difference?
thank you
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That aside your uplink constraint basically makes any solution a non-starter. 4k 30fps will take quite a bit of bandwidth - probably at least 10Mbps+ per camera with H265/VP9 compression
The reason for asking on this forum is to confirm that a system advertised as 4K30fps (NVR and Camera) actually can perform to that level for capturing to the NVR. I'm probably most concerned with shutter speed above all else.
Some of the other video I shoot on an action camera at 4K30fps then I extract still images from the video stream. That's what I'm trying to replicate with a system like this.
The reason for asking on this forum is to confirm that a system advertised as 4K30fps (NVR and Camera) actually can perform to that level for capturing to the NVR. I'm probably most concerned with shutter speed above all else.
Some of the other video I shoot on an action camera at 4K30fps then I extract still images from the video stream. That's what I'm trying to replicate with a system like this.
I would head over to ipcamtalk and look at the specs/reviews/footage of different camera models and see if there's something that works for you.
I think Blue Iris which was discussed here might be better alternative for you. The user interface is better if you're going to be periodically pulling footage, and there's more flexibility in case you want to experiment with different camera types/settings. As per the discussion in this thread, it will probably use a bit more power.
Any special/initial setting required on each third party IP camera to work with the NVR?