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Amcrest NV4108E-HS 4K 8CH POE NVR (1080p/3MP/4MP/5MP/6MP/8MP/4K) POE Network Video Recorder (Hard Drive NOT Included) $136

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Don't let the boys at IP-Cam-Talk lead you to believe Blue Iris is the only solution you need (as it appears they work for Blue Iris).

Had good luck so far with this NVR using 3rd party cameras.

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1) Hard Drive Not Included
2) If you plan on using non-Amcrest cameras, would recommend getting an external POE switch or injector to configure your 3rd party camera (setting up camera settings/resolution and "10.1.1.x" IP and subnet/etc ) then connect to the Amcrest and manually configure it under "Customirzed" camera.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0743WP62Q

Amcrest's NV4108E-HS 8CH POE NVR supports hard drives up to 6 Terabytes, while Featuring 8CH Recording, Playback & Live View in Up to 8MP/4K Resolution @ Real-Time 30fps.
Advanced H.265 compression technology lets you save on storage space which allows for longer recording times. H.265 technology compresses your video without sacrificing any of the UltraHD video quality. Intelligent search, playback, and backup functions provide enhanced ease of use and security (for example, motion detection event and exact search functions that are accurate to one second).
Plug & Play setup, Easy to configure, access and control. Scan QR Code on POE NVR from "Amcrest View" app to instantly access live viewing and playback. Connects to and manages all the POE IP cameras on your network directly through their ethernet cables for ultimate ease and convenience in a home security system.
Max 80Mbps Incoming Bandwidth, records 7 cameras @ 4K using H.264. Records 8 cameras @ 4K by changing default settings from H.264 to H.265 and adjusting bit rate to 1792 on each camera for maximum optimization. Conveniently packaged with extras such as USB mouse, network cable, and quick start guide.
Includes USB backup feature for peace of mind. All systems CE & FCC certified with UL compliant power supplies. Guaranteed for a Full Year from purchase with US Support and US Warranty offered exclusively by Amcrest.
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I've been using Shinobi, and it's been amazing for me on my low powered Linux NAS box. It runs on Linux and its free for home use and very light weight.
Nice! Seems RPI can also be used with Shinobi. Never know about this. Thanks!!
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I went the PC route (picked up a used i5 6000 series CPU) and initially tried Blue Iris. Had performance issues and found Milestone Xprotect Essential + [milestonesys.com].

It's free for up to eight cameras and the more "generic" ONVIF profiles have worked fine for my Dahua cameras. I was even able to get the XProtect software to pay attention to some $20 Wyze Cam 1080p (those little cubes) after flashing the RTSP enabled firmware.
Going to try this. Looks really good. Thank you very much.
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Amcrest is just rebranded Dahua FYI. I installed at two locations then stopped buying them once I learned they are Dahua (blacklisted by federal govt last I heard).

Install was easy, everything worked over POE. UI is your generic chinese DVR UI with some bad translations here and there. Not user friendly at all when trying to save a backup video file. It's some weird format that requires 3rd party application conversion to mpeg.
Amcrest is just rebranded Dahua but unlike Dahua the saved file format is just regular mp4 (at least from their cameras, havent tried this NVR) and not the weird Dahua format that requires an aftermarket video conversion. I use Amcrest and some stuff like ftp or email notification can be buggy but the hardware quality is great since its Dahua. Dahua/HIKvision are both Chinese but great quality depending on the model you get.
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why the hit job on blue iris? I've been using blue iris for almost 10 years trouble free, recording 8 different cameras and I couldn't be happier. Once you dial in your PC, it takes very very low resources.

Hell, I even setup a blue iris PC for my parents who are not computer savvy at all, and they use it to monitor their summer home and their main home. I even get clips emailed to me when my dad sees animals doing funny things.
The problem with BI is it requires a separate PC, which is fine for a DUI type person but for the typical average joe it adds a lot of complexity and cost. With an NVR they dont have to get confused about POE switches, IP addresses (aside for the NVR) and in this case maintaining a windows PC (with its random reboots/updates/security issues). Since it needs a windows PC you can't even use a Rasberry pi which only uses a few watts. Just get an NVR and 1-2 6TB HDDs and you done. I do like the pricing for BI, its a nice one time cost and has huge support, but unless you have a business seems like free SW out there does the job as well.
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why the hit job on blue iris? I've been using blue iris for almost 10 years trouble free, recording 8 different cameras and I couldn't be happier. Once you dial in your PC, it takes very very low resources.

Hell, I even setup a blue iris PC for my parents who are not computer savvy at all, and they use it to monitor their summer home and their main home. I even get clips emailed to me when my dad sees animals doing funny things.
$ 70 Blue Iris license
$ 200 (6+ year old used computer)
$ 100 Windows License if the computer doesn't have it or have old Win 7 on it.
$ 100 8 port POE switch

So $400 to $500 for a Blue Iris system (without cameras) and not to mention you will be burning more electricity because it's a windows computer and include the POE switch as well. These 2 devices combined will draw more power thus produce more heat compared to an all in 1 system.

I used to be BI user and I know old i7 CPUs will max out at 100% with only 10 cameras at 1080p. When CPU usage hits 100% for a month, your electricity bill would have paid for this Amcrest NVR right now.

BI is obsolete and there are better cheaper, more power efficient and user friendly solution out there. This Amcrest is one of them.

It's time to move on.
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Anyone have experience with Amcrest NVR?
I have the 2108 (non-poe) model for 2+ years. It's been a set it and forget it experience, for me. Works when I needed. Able to access the vids anywhere. Nice to be able to have 1 app to view Amcrest, and non-Amcrest cams (via ONVIF, for example, the several Reolink cams that I have). I got it with the hope for low (or no) maintenance and so far, it's been the case.
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Max 80Mbps Incoming Bandwidth, records 7 cameras @ 4K using H.264. Records 8 cameras @ 4K by changing default settings from H.264 to H.265 and adjusting bit rate to 1792 on each camera for maximum optimization.

does anyone know what max. bitrate the cameras can do if i only buy 8, 2k cameras? would that give me higher bitrate per camera?
i was thinking a higher bitrate on 2k cameras will be better for security camera footage/identifying someone

is this going to be a better option than pc/blueiris with a poe switch?
will this allow me to get alerts on mobile with the app and also to play and watch live feed/alerts remotely using mobile app?
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Thanks everyone for your feedback, sounds like a mix bag. I'll look into the alternatives suggested here!
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I setup some Amcrest cams and an Amcrest NVR for a friend, and it has been nothing but problems. Literally chose to stay in one ecosystem for stability and for ease of use. I would never recommend these trash NVRs to anyone. Not sure if it's standard, but these things dole out their own IP to each of the cameras connected to them, which sometimes change. When they change, the channel goes out until you manually go into the NVR and replace the IP with the right one. Also, you are forced to change the password for the cams, and if you forget it, you have to take the camera down and reset it because it'll lock you out after a certain number of tries. I installed IP8M-T2499EW's; to reset them, you have to take the camera fully apart, and pray that there is even a reset button. The camera that I got locked out of didn't so I had to replace the entire unit, and amcrests support was non-existent. The other issue I have with this thing is that it locks you out of viewing remotely if you try too many incorrect passwords. My friend has had his remote viewing go out multple times because some unauthorized person attempted to brute force their way into the NVR. All my complaints are mainly about their NVR and software and not so much their cameras. The NVR is also painfully slow. Quality is still decent.

TL;DR: Amcrest NVR is a pile of garbage in terms of remote access control, brute force protection measures, cam IP management, and overall interface lag. I've used both this and BlueIris on a really low powered computer, and I would choose BlueIris anyday over this garbage.
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$ 70 Blue Iris license
$ 200 (6+ year old used computer)
$ 100 Windows License if the computer doesn't have it or have old Win 7 on it.
$ 100 8 port POE switch

So $400 to $500 for a Blue Iris system (without cameras) and not to mention you will be burning more electricity because it's a windows computer and include the POE switch as well. These 2 devices combined will draw more power thus produce more heat compared to an all in 1 system.

I used to be BI user and I know old i7 CPUs will max out at 100% with only 10 cameras at 1080p. When CPU usage hits 100% for a month, your electricity bill would have paid for this Amcrest NVR right now.

BI is obsolete and there are better cheaper, more power efficient and user friendly solution out there. This Amcrest is one of them.

It's time to move on.
I agreed with you. Also don't forget they changed to annual subscription model. Time to dump BI for something cheaper and more efficient.
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I setup some Amcrest cams and an Amcrest NVR for a friend, and it has been nothing but problems. Literally chose to stay in one ecosystem for stability and for ease of use. I would never recommend these trash NVRs to anyone. Not sure if it's standard, but these things dole out their own IP to each of the cameras connected to them, which sometimes change. When they change, the channel goes out until you manually go into the NVR and replace the IP with the right one. Also, you are forced to change the password for the cams, and if you forget it, you have to take the camera down and reset it because it'll lock you out after a certain number of tries. I installed IP8M-T2499EW's; to reset them, you have to take the camera fully apart, and pray that there is even a reset button. The camera that I got locked out of didn't so I had to replace the entire unit, and amcrests support was non-existent. The other issue I have with this thing is that it locks you out of viewing remotely if you try too many incorrect passwords. My friend has had his remote viewing go out multple times because some unauthorized person attempted to brute force their way into the NVR. All my complaints are mainly about their NVR and software and not so much their cameras. The NVR is also painfully slow. Quality is still decent.

TL;DR: Amcrest NVR is a pile of garbage in terms of remote access control, brute force protection measures, cam IP management, and overall interface lag. I've used both this and BlueIris on a really low powered computer, and I would choose BlueIris anyday over this garbage.
I have installed Amcrest/Dahua and Hikvison cameras/NVRs. Never have any problem with both.
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Quote from 1SlickDealFan :
I have installed Amcrest/Dahua and Hikvison cameras/NVRs. Never have any problem with both.
Yea, with my limited usages with this, this unit seems to be fine and stable. There may be some users that expect too much for the price. For this price, this seems to check a lot of boxes for a good set of basic users. If you want 100% reliability and AI processing with all the bells and whistles of a profession grade system, you may want to look elsewhere and spend more money.
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I setup some Amcrest cams and an Amcrest NVR for a friend, and it has been nothing but problems. Literally chose to stay in one ecosystem for stability and for ease of use. I would never recommend these trash NVRs to anyone. Not sure if it's standard, but these things dole out their own IP to each of the cameras connected to them, which sometimes change. When they change, the channel goes out until you manually go into the NVR and replace the IP with the right one. Also, you are forced to change the password for the cams, and if you forget it, you have to take the camera down and reset it because it'll lock you out after a certain number of tries. I installed IP8M-T2499EW's; to reset them, you have to take the camera fully apart, and pray that there is even a reset button. The camera that I got locked out of didn't so I had to replace the entire unit, and amcrests support was non-existent. The other issue I have with this thing is that it locks you out of viewing remotely if you try too many incorrect passwords. My friend has had his remote viewing go out multple times because some unauthorized person attempted to brute force their way into the NVR. All my complaints are mainly about their NVR and software and not so much their cameras. The NVR is also painfully slow. Quality is still decent.

TL;DR: Amcrest NVR is a pile of garbage in terms of remote access control, brute force protection measures, cam IP management, and overall interface lag. I've used both this and BlueIris on a really low powered computer, and I would choose BlueIris anyday over this garbage.
What model of NVR? I have an older Amcrest NVR that has been stable with a bunch of different brand cameras. It was a little fiddley to get the motion detection to work at first, but once it was setup, it just works, and it is super low powered compared to a full windows PC. My main reason for NVR over blue iris on a pc, is that I just don't have the space to put another pc that is solely dedicated to BlueIris.
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I used to be BI user and I know old i7 CPUs will max out at 100% with only 10 cameras at 1080p. When CPU usage hits 100% for a month, your electricity bill would have paid for this Amcrest NVR right now.

BI is obsolete and there are better cheaper, more power efficient and user friendly solution out there. This Amcrest is one of them.

It's time to move on.
This might have been true some time ago. A lot of people don't know about substreams but that has changed the game with CPU requirements. BI5 introduced substreams and I have a 30 camera, all 2MP and above cams, system running at around 5-8% right now. It is not CPU bound anymore.

BI is not obsolete, in fact it's constantly updated. The interface is much better than any NVR. I also have newer Dahua NVR. The interface is cumbersome and to find what I'm looking for it just takes a lot longer to do the same things. It's a nice all in one solution but it has a lot of limitations if you are a power user. But it's good enough for most people. One thing I've had issues with when it comes to NVRs is that the POE ports will also go bad requiring injectors or switches at some point. My 16 channel Dahua NVR also makes a lot more noise than my custom built computer. You can buy a used Dell or HP system for 100-200 that will be quiet and low power consumption.

If you need expansion, speed, being able to use almost any camera, and upgradability then BI is for you. If you only want to run a few cams and don't access the system much, then go with off the shelf NVR. BI has a learning curve, it's most definitely better, but most people don't need it.
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where's matt

we need his expert opinion on this one
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No NVR experience, but my Amcrest IP PTZ camera was garbage.
Software was buggy, never updated, and support was terrible. Hardware seemed fine, but the app and firmware were unusable. Camera is collecting dust in the closet now.
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