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Amcrest NV4108E-HS 4K 8CH POE NVR (1080p/3MP/4MP/5MP/6MP/8MP/4K) POE Network Video Recorder (Hard Drive NOT Included) $136

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Don't let the boys at IP-Cam-Talk lead you to believe Blue Iris is the only solution you need (as it appears they work for Blue Iris).

Had good luck so far with this NVR using 3rd party cameras.

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1) Hard Drive Not Included
2) If you plan on using non-Amcrest cameras, would recommend getting an external POE switch or injector to configure your 3rd party camera (setting up camera settings/resolution and "10.1.1.x" IP and subnet/etc ) then connect to the Amcrest and manually configure it under "Customirzed" camera.


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0743WP62Q

Amcrest's NV4108E-HS 8CH POE NVR supports hard drives up to 6 Terabytes, while Featuring 8CH Recording, Playback & Live View in Up to 8MP/4K Resolution @ Real-Time 30fps.
Advanced H.265 compression technology lets you save on storage space which allows for longer recording times. H.265 technology compresses your video without sacrificing any of the UltraHD video quality. Intelligent search, playback, and backup functions provide enhanced ease of use and security (for example, motion detection event and exact search functions that are accurate to one second).
Plug & Play setup, Easy to configure, access and control. Scan QR Code on POE NVR from "Amcrest View" app to instantly access live viewing and playback. Connects to and manages all the POE IP cameras on your network directly through their ethernet cables for ultimate ease and convenience in a home security system.
Max 80Mbps Incoming Bandwidth, records 7 cameras @ 4K using H.264. Records 8 cameras @ 4K by changing default settings from H.264 to H.265 and adjusting bit rate to 1792 on each camera for maximum optimization. Conveniently packaged with extras such as USB mouse, network cable, and quick start guide.
Includes USB backup feature for peace of mind. All systems CE & FCC certified with UL compliant power supplies. Guaranteed for a Full Year from purchase with US Support and US Warranty offered exclusively by Amcrest.
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Im using blue iris but im not sure its worth it. I need a windows pc running all the time and using it as a server for other things is not as good as linux
Yep when I first started getting into cameras (just adding one here and there and using only the cameras applications) I then wanted to move to NVR and was sure the PC route was it, then the more I looked into it the better a stand alone unit looked. Ended up with the 16 channel non poe version of this ( NV4116-HS )and it had been great, using 4 different brand cameras.

Got it on sale last year for $120 but current price of $150 is still good in my opinion.

Any one in that model range should be good but I can not speak of the POE versions.
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I setup some Amcrest cams and an Amcrest NVR for a friend, and it has been nothing but problems. Literally chose to stay in one ecosystem for stability and for ease of use. I would never recommend these trash NVRs to anyone. Not sure if it's standard, but these things dole out their own IP to each of the cameras connected to them, which sometimes change. When they change, the channel goes out until you manually go into the NVR and replace the IP with the right one. Also, you are forced to change the password for the cams, and if you forget it, you have to take the camera down and reset it because it'll lock you out after a certain number of tries. I installed IP8M-T2499EW's; to reset them, you have to take the camera fully apart, and pray that there is even a reset button. The camera that I got locked out of didn't so I had to replace the entire unit, and amcrests support was non-existent. The other issue I have with this thing is that it locks you out of viewing remotely if you try too many incorrect passwords. My friend has had his remote viewing go out multple times because some unauthorized person attempted to brute force their way into the NVR. All my complaints are mainly about their NVR and software and not so much their cameras. The NVR is also painfully slow. Quality is still decent.

TL;DR: Amcrest NVR is a pile of garbage in terms of remote access control, brute force protection measures, cam IP management, and overall interface lag. I've used both this and BlueIris on a really low powered computer, and I would choose BlueIris anyday over this garbage.
Sounds like mostly user/installer error? 🤔
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I need to drive 60 cameras in a warehouse. Looking at Blue Iris, the 6 yr old Dahua is a pia.
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Yep when I first started getting into cameras (just adding one here and there and using only the cameras applications) I then wanted to move to NVR and was sure the PC route was it, then the more I looked into it the better a stand alone unit looked. Ended up with the 16 channel non poe version of this ( NV4116-HS )and it had been great, using 4 different brand cameras.

Got it on sale last year for $120 but current price of $150 is still good in my opinion.

Any one in that model range should be good but I can not speak of the POE versions.
I have a perfectly fine BI installation, but the PC burns about 50W . @30cents/KwH , that's about 130 bucks a year. That's got to be considered for sure..

How much power does the Non-POE version NVR consume, typically? I can hopefully stick it anywhere I have an ethernet cable and be done with it.

Also, this is now at $120 . Is this the one?

https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-NV...B07VX8S4DK
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$ 70 Blue Iris license
$ 200 (6+ year old used computer)
$ 100 Windows License if the computer doesn't have it or have old Win 7 on it.
$ 100 8 port POE switch

So $400 to $500 for a Blue Iris system (without cameras) and not to mention you will be burning more electricity because it's a windows computer and include the POE switch as well. These 2 devices combined will draw more power thus produce more heat compared to an all in 1 system.

I used to be BI user and I know old i7 CPUs will max out at 100% with only 10 cameras at 1080p. When CPU usage hits 100% for a month, your electricity bill would have paid for this Amcrest NVR right now.

BI is obsolete and there are better cheaper, more power efficient and user friendly solution out there. This Amcrest is one of them.

It's time to move on.


I have literally zero idea what you are talking about with an i7 maxing at 100% with 10 cameras. I have a feeling you had no idea how to setup blue iris to begin with if that was your issue.

I have a PC that is on 24/7, its my home office computer. It controls my whole house plex media server, all of my led lighting on the entire property, my weather station which uploads real time data to NOAA, and Blue Iris.

You can see in the atached screenshots, with my i7, Blue Iris is taking 4% CPU while writing 26-28MB a second to a western digital purple hard drive. Blue Iris is recording 8 4k cameras 24/7 and also using motion sensing to make an alerts folder to flag motion It is mostly dark right now, so the write rate is extremely low, but even during the day, the CPU never goes beyond 6% from Blue Iris.

Plus, it's 2021, who wants a big clunky NVR box that you have to run cat 5 cables to? Nobody does that anymore. On my main property, I have 12 google mesh pucks scattered around, and different cameras are ran off different pucks with inline PoE injectors. The trenching / installation of cat 5 cables to make a NVR system work at my house would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. I know my situation would be extreme, but most people would end up paying hundreds of dollars (if not thousands) for cat 5's to all be ran from a single location on a property, unless you live in some little shack and don't care about exposed wires ran outside. Also, the last concern on my mind is the extra $30 a year my almost idle blue iris PC is adding to my electricity cost.

It's time to move on from large, primitive NVR systems and move into wireless file transfer, such as Blue Iris.
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If you care about security, as in the devices being secure and inaccessible to unauthorized access, you'll consider a different brand. A couple years ago, a bunch of security vulnerabilities were released for nearly every one of their cameras. I'm sure their NVR is just as bad.
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I'm using the version of this without PoE ports. I think it's a better deal refurbished at $83 and then buy a separate PoE switch.

As noted this is rebranded Dahua.

https://amcrest.com/amcrest-rep-n...-wifi.html
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I like blue iris. Never had any issues. Been using it for 3 years. Already had a spare pc with windows so no cost there. I only have 4 cameras though.
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I have literally zero idea what you are talking about with an i7 maxing at 100% with 10 cameras. I have a feeling you had no idea how to setup blue iris to begin with if that was your issue.

I have a PC that is on 24/7, its my home office computer. It controls my whole house plex media server, all of my led lighting on the entire property, my weather station which uploads real time data to NOAA, and Blue Iris.

You can see in the atached screenshots, with my i7, Blue Iris is taking 4% CPU while writing 26-28MB a second to a western digital purple hard drive. Blue Iris is recording 8 4k cameras 24/7 and also using motion sensing to make an alerts folder to flag motion It is mostly dark right now, so the write rate is extremely low, but even during the day, the CPU never goes beyond 6% from Blue Iris.

Plus, it's 2021, who wants a big clunky NVR box that you have to run cat 5 cables to? Nobody does that anymore. On my main property, I have 12 google mesh pucks scattered around, and different cameras are ran off different pucks with inline PoE injectors. The trenching / installation of cat 5 cables to make a NVR system work at my house would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. I know my situation would be extreme, but most people would end up paying hundreds of dollars (if not thousands) for cat 5's to all be ran from a single location on a property, unless you live in some little shack and don't care about exposed wires ran outside. Also, the last concern on my mind is the extra $30 a year my almost idle blue iris PC is adding to my electricity cost.

It's time to move on from large, primitive NVR systems and move into wireless file transfer, such as Blue Iris.
Just curious what 4k cams are running on wifi backhauls and how stable has it been?
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Is this worth it? I been doing simple setup for home, recording anything that move into a Amcrest camera into a microSD and only check if something is bad. LOL
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Quote from foofurrah :
I'm using the version of this without PoE ports. I think it's a better deal refurbished at $83 and then buy a separate PoE switch.

As noted this is rebranded Dahua.

https://amcrest.com/amcrest-rep-n...-wifi.html
This is pretty good option too, especially if you plan on using 3rd party cameras and don't mind using a separate POE switch. Considering this myself. Thanks.
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I have literally zero idea what you are talking about with an i7 maxing at 100% with 10 cameras. I have a feeling you had no idea how to setup blue iris to begin with if that was your issue.

I have a PC that is on 24/7, its my home office computer. It controls my whole house plex media server, all of my led lighting on the entire property, my weather station which uploads real time data to NOAA, and Blue Iris.

You can see in the atached screenshots, with my i7, Blue Iris is taking 4% CPU while writing 26-28MB a second to a western digital purple hard drive. Blue Iris is recording 8 4k cameras 24/7 and also using motion sensing to make an alerts folder to flag motion It is mostly dark right now, so the write rate is extremely low, but even during the day, the CPU never goes beyond 6% from Blue Iris.

Plus, it's 2021, who wants a big clunky NVR box that you have to run cat 5 cables to? Nobody does that anymore. On my main property, I have 12 google mesh pucks scattered around, and different cameras are ran off different pucks with inline PoE injectors. The trenching / installation of cat 5 cables to make a NVR system work at my house would be in the tens of thousands of dollars. I know my situation would be extreme, but most people would end up paying hundreds of dollars (if not thousands) for cat 5's to all be ran from a single location on a property, unless you live in some little shack and don't care about exposed wires ran outside. Also, the last concern on my mind is the extra $30 a year my almost idle blue iris PC is adding to my electricity cost.

It's time to move on from large, primitive NVR systems and move into wireless file transfer, such as Blue Iris.
BI may have updated its efficiency but still doesn't take away the fact that:
  • You'll spend more on electricity This thing runs 24/7. Your BI system will run at least 100 watts or more than any single solution NVR. 100 watts for 24/7/356 is $140 at 16cents per kilowatt hours. The excess electricity you burn is the price of this NVR for a year.
  • It requires more money upfront compared to this NVR for $136 and it includes POE switch. How can you beat that? Your BI machine has 32 gb of RAM, that thing alone is more expensive than $136.Even that 7700k is twice expensive than $136.
  • You will need more technical knowledge which regular people doesn't have.
  • You are running a Windows 10 box 24/7 which is unreliable and gives you more hole in security (unless you know what you're doing which again you don't expect to all people).
  • Windows 10 needs restarts every update which again gives downtime and a chore to do. It's not plug and forget solution.
  • BI system is bulkier. Find a space for both of your computer box and switch.
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BI may have updated its efficiency but still doesn't take away the fact that:
  • You'll spend more on electricity This thing runs 24/7. Your BI system will run at least 100 watts or more than any single solution NVR. 100 watts for 24/7/356 is $140 at 16cents per kilowatt hours. The excess electricity you burn is the price of this NVR for a year.
  • It requires more money upfront compared to this NVR for $136 and it includes POE switch. How can you beat that? Your BI machine has 32 gb of RAM, that thing alone is more expensive than $136.Even that 7700k is twice expensive than $136.
  • You will need more technical knowledge which regular people doesn't have.
  • You are running a Windows 10 box 24/7 which is unreliable and gives you more hole in security (unless you know what you're doing which again you don't expect to all people).
  • Windows 10 needs restarts every update which again gives downtime and a chore to do. It's not plug and forget solution.
  • BI system is bulkier. Find a space for both of your computer box and switch.
This is the post to end all posts for this thread. Perfectly sums up the advantages of this NVR (any NVR for that matter) vs Blue Iris.

But we have not heard the last of the BI fan-base, they are strongly bias as if they have a stake in the sales of the BI software... hummmm.....
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Have this and switched over to Blue Iris. Really depends on your needs.

I had 6 cameras attached to it and I could never get it to output more than 4 cameras on a TV screen. Reached out to support and the response they gave was weak at best.

For an NVR that advertises 8 channel support, it's embarrassing. My 6 cameras were 2MP. Even switching to substream and 4fps did not resolve the issue.

So it you're looking to just use it for recording and no live view, should not be an issue. But if looking to output for constant live view, this is not the NVR you're looking for.
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I am trying to set up a 4K "webcam". NOT for security and what I'm filming is not subject to privacy concerns. Something like watching a birdfeeder and wanting really good video (true 30fps) or single frames with a high shutter speed. I also am looking for somewhere around 4 to 7 cameras.

One of my big constraints is internet connectivity. The location is remote and has an internet connection but the uplink is REALLY slow.

Would something like this fit my needs (this NVR + HDD + cameras)? Or alternate suggestions welcome.
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