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AMD Ryzen™ 7 4800H Mobile Processor with Radeon™ Graphics
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Windows 10 Home, 64-bit, English
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AMD Radeon™ RX 5600M 6GB GDDR6
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15.6 inch FHD (1920 x 1080) 120Hz 250 nits WVA Anti- Glare LED Backlit Narrow Border Display
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512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
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16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz
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3-Cell Battery, 51 Whr (Integrated)
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Killer Wi-Fi 6 AX1650 (2x2) and Bluetooth 5.0

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Rx 5600 is comparable to the 2060 series right? This seems like a great deal. Any cons? Aside from the 250 nit scree
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Rx 5600 is comparable to the 2060 series right? This seems like a great deal. Any cons? Aside from the 250 nit scree
It's actually not bad, although he price does get quite close to that Legion 5 4800H 2060 with a much better 144hz display. The 120hz panel is cheap so it's not only dim but has super high response times so it can't actually hit 120hz and has visible ghosting, and very low colors 62% sRGB as compared to 92+% standard.
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It's actually not bad, although he price does get quite close to that Legion 5 4800H 2060 with a much better 144hz display. The 120hz panel is cheap so it's not only dim but has super high response times so it can't actually hit 120hz and has visible ghosting, and very low colors 62% sRGB as compared to 92+% standard.
Thanks. Been waiting for a Legion to get around the 900 mark for a 2060 and 16gb ram. Thought this could be a decent sub.
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Am I missing something or is this the same specs (also from Dell's site) but costs about $19 less. Is there some difference I'm not seeing?

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/mpp/...etail/8e98
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Am I missing something or is this the same specs (also from Dell's site) but costs about $19 less. Is there some difference I'm not seeing?

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/mpp/...etail/8e98
Price shown for me in this link was 854.99. With the $100 amex rebate, I bit on this. Thanks!
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Rx 5600 is comparable to the 2060 series right? This seems like a great deal. Any cons? Aside from the 250 nit scree
I ordered a similar configured one last month for about $250 cheaper with Amex cash back, 8Gb memory. The screen is really terrible at today standard, very dim. Also keyboard backlighting is also very dim. I returned it.
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Am I missing something or is this the same specs (also from Dell's site) but costs about $19 less. Is there some difference I'm not seeing?

https://deals.dell.com/en-us/mpp/...etail/8e98 [dell.com]
I compared the two links side by side, they seem to be the exact model but priced different ...
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I ordered a similar configured one last month for about $250 cheaper with Amex cash back, 8Gb memory. The screen is really terrible at today standard, very dim. Also keyboard backlighting is also very dim. I returned it.
Wonder if they sale a better replacement screen under 100 bucks?
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Rx 5600 is comparable to the 2060 series right? This seems like a great deal. Any cons? Aside from the 250 nit scree
15.6 inch monitor, kills it every time!
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Rx 5600 is comparable to the 2060 series right? This seems like a great deal. Any cons? Aside from the 250 nit scree
It's really bad. Not AMD, it's dell. If you want to know more about this, check the reddit,
r/DellG5SE

(2) DellG5SE (reddit.com)
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It's like INTEL is paying OEMS to create a crappy laptop with AMD. Check youtube and redit commet before buying it. You may know why the price is low. The dell new g15 is a good laptop with 3060. But price is higher
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Rx 5600 is comparable to the 2060 series right? This seems like a great deal. Any cons? Aside from the 250 nit scree
I've had this laptop except with the 4600h instead of the 4800h for $699. Few things to note:

1. If you watched Jarrod's Tech's review of the 4600h model, he compares it to the more expensive 4800h and the 4800h performs slightly WORSE than the 4600h in many games despite having 8gb less ram and a lower spec'd processor.
2. This computer runs hot. So hot that Dell's official bios updates purposefully gimp the CPU and GPU to keep temps more reasonable. If you update to 1.5.0 for the bios, the graphics card will legit perform at the level of a 1650. It's BAD. Downgrade to 1.4.4 and the performance becomes a lot better but windows keeps trying to upgrade to 1.5.0 bios and so you gatta turn windows updates off.
3. Default drivers on the Dell G5 SE are a disaster. You have to manually install older versions of chipset drivers/ audio drivers to make sure stuff works. Again, you have the issue with the software trying to auto update to a broken version.

I ended up returning the laptop. Clearly, Dell does not care about this laptop with all the faulty drivers. My theory is they shipped 1.5.0 to keep temps low so they wouldn't have to worry about laptops breaking due to overheating so less work for their tech support team. If you're willing to put in the work to tinker with this laptop and installing new thermal paste and keep drivers/bios from going ape, then go for it. Otherwise, I'd stay far far away.
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Quote from BoastfulMice8832 :
It's actually not bad, although he price does get quite close to that Legion 5 4800H 2060 with a much better 144hz display. The 120hz panel is cheap so it's not only dim but has super high response times so it can't actually hit 120hz and has visible ghosting, and very low colors 62% sRGB as compared to 92+% standard.
My issues were not with the display. Admittedly I didn't keep it long enough to experience the display deficiencies

This laptop got super hot really fast. Could feel it on the palm rests AND throughout keyboard. Fans somehow blow it up the screen, probably because of those weird angles.

The biggest disappointment was that I couldn't get it to Continuously use the dedicated gpu. It defaults to the integrated graphics. It has the amd smart shift and I wish it was smarter. There is no place in bios or dell command center or Radeon to force dedicated gpu.

I tried disabling and uninstalling integrated gpu to force it to use the 5600(which in theory is only a few FPS behind 2060) but at restart it would go back to integrated

That being said the thermal atrocities I was experiencing were without any additional heat from 5600. I would hate to see the consequences of it using the 5600 under load( thermal shutdowns and throttling)
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Lots of Truth here.....

There can be lots of Thermal issues here....
The 4800H may not get you much over the 4600H on "THIS SPECIFIC LAPTOP" because of the limitations of the cooling design.

So you can save money and get similar performance.

The Dell "G" Line is also their lowest gaming line for laptops.
The "XPS" while not specifically gaming, can be had with the 2060 as well as the AlienWare.

I suspect to some degree these lower-end laptops cooling solution is intentionally under engineered as a means to drive customers to their higher margin laptops.



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I've had this laptop except with the 4600h instead of the 4800h for $699. Few things to note:

1. If you watched Jarrod's Tech's review of the 4600h model, he compares it to the more expensive 4800h and the 4800h performs slightly WORSE than the 4600h in many games despite having 8gb less ram and a lower spec'd processor.
2. This computer runs hot. So hot that Dell's official bios updates purposefully gimp the CPU and GPU to keep temps more reasonable. If you update to 1.5.0 for the bios, the graphics card will legit perform at the level of a 1650. It's BAD. Downgrade to 1.4.4 and the performance becomes a lot better but windows keeps trying to upgrade to 1.5.0 bios and so you gatta turn windows updates off.
3. Default drivers on the Dell G5 SE are a disaster. You have to manually install older versions of chipset drivers/ audio drivers to make sure stuff works. Again, you have the issue with the software trying to auto update to a broken version.

I ended up returning the laptop. Clearly, Dell does not care about this laptop with all the faulty drivers. My theory is they shipped 1.5.0 to keep temps low so they wouldn't have to worry about laptops breaking due to overheating so less work for their tech support team. If you're willing to put in the work to tinker with this laptop and installing new thermal paste and keep drivers/bios from going ape, then go for it. Otherwise, I'd stay far far away.
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