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Olympus split off their camera division and sold it to another Japanese company: JIP.
Yep. Really hard to say what the future holds, but I wouldn't bet on Olympus being around for the long run. Not to say the current cameras and lenses will suddenly stop working or anything.
With Panasonic inching out of the m43 market too I personally wouldn't invest in them (JIP/Olympus) hoping for lots of new stuff. Though what's currently available is quite good. To be fair, I wouldn't invest this kind of $$$ into an m43 camera (this deal) even if Olympus were doing great. It's not a great value proposition IMO.
M43 isn't going anywhere in general: It is still massive in video. The smaller sensor is actually beneficial in video, whereas in still photography it is a trade-off between size/weight and optics.
As to Panasonic, they've already announced two new video cameras and a new lens. There was also a leak today for an Oly PEN camera (E-P7). I cannot say for certain what the M43 market will look like two years from now, but I can say with a reasonably degree of confidence that video isn't going anywhere even if photography largely moves on to small form factor FF like the A7C and premium APS-C like the Fuji X and Sony A6000 range.
It really depends what you are using it for. For shooting wildlife, this is a fantastic setup.
Lots of museums. Interior architecture, artwork, sometimes in poorly lit interiors. I need fast lenses or good image stabilization. Plus I like wide angle too. I had a Canon 80D prior.
Yep. Really hard to say what the future holds, but I wouldn't bet on Olympus being around for the long run. Not to say the current cameras and lenses will suddenly stop working or anything.
With Panasonic inching out of the m43 market too I personally wouldn't invest in them (JIP/Olympus) hoping for lots of new stuff. Though what's currently available is quite good. To be fair, I wouldn't invest this kind of $$$ into an m43 camera (this deal) even if Olympus were doing great. It's not a great value proposition IMO.
Why are you worried about Oly going out of business? If they went BK today, their gear would go on for many years. Repairs? Plenty of shops to take care of that. Panasonic is going great with their m4/3 cameras. Nikon stopped their 1" sensor Nikon 1 cameras 5 years ago and they are still popular and being used today. Value proposition? Huh?
Why are you worried about Oly going out of business? If they went BK today, their gear would go on for many years. Repairs? Plenty of shops to take care of that. Panasonic is going great with their m4/3 cameras. Nikon stopped their 1" sensor Nikon 1 cameras 5 years ago and they are still popular and being used today. Value proposition? Huh?
I think you need to reread my post. I'm not worried. Though clearly Olympus were, hence they sold the division to a company like JIP.
As you say the 1 series is done. Nikon have stopped producing it, stopped marketing it, stopped R&D. It's an abandoned system. As I said for Olympus, that doesn't mean it will stop working overnight, just that there's no future for it. If you're keen to jump into a system with no future then by all means do. It's your money and your prerogative.
Over $2k for a camera with worse subject tracking AF, larger m43 footprint, less impressive noise/DR and is more expensive than many full frame and APSC contemporaries? Why spend so much when there are perfectly fine m43 cameras out there for much less that will get you about the same results. The savings could be spent in good lenses too, which are arguably more important anyway. If I'm a new consumer why would I choose this camera over a Sony, Nikon, Fuji, etc… for this much money?
Truth be told I happen to like m43 cameras, the GX8 is one my all time favorites to shoot with, but I've yet to see a compelling argument for why the camera in this deal in reality, and not on paper, makes sense for the price being asked. So yeah, at this price point it's a poor value proposition.
bokeh has to do with object distance, background distance and your aperture, that you need to test yourself.
i assume you have the kit 14-42 mm lens? keep in mind that 12 is just slightly wider than 14. if 14 doesn't work, 12 won't work either. i have the 9-18, and i really think you need to go under 10mm for any actual wide angle shot. human eye is about 17mm (or 8mm for MFT) for reference.
seanleeforeverbokeh has to do with object distance, background distance and your aperture, that you need to test yourself.
i assume you have the kit 14-42 mm lens? keep in mind that 12 is just slightly wider than 14. if 14 doesn't work, 12 won't work either. i have the 9-18, and i really think you need to go under 10mm for any actual wide angle shot. human eye is about 17mm (or 8mm for MFT) for reference.
Please explain your 17mm comment. The Human Eye actually sees at an equivalent 43mm. We don't see naturally in wide angle. We stitch the scene together as our eyes scan.
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Yep. Really hard to say what the future holds, but I wouldn't bet on Olympus being around for the long run. Not to say the current cameras and lenses will suddenly stop working or anything.
With Panasonic inching out of the m43 market too I personally wouldn't invest in them (JIP/Olympus) hoping for lots of new stuff. Though what's currently available is quite good. To be fair, I wouldn't invest this kind of $$$ into an m43 camera (this deal) even if Olympus were doing great. It's not a great value proposition IMO.
As to Panasonic, they've already announced two new video cameras and a new lens. There was also a leak today for an Oly PEN camera (E-P7). I cannot say for certain what the M43 market will look like two years from now, but I can say with a reasonably degree of confidence that video isn't going anywhere even if photography largely moves on to small form factor FF like the A7C and premium APS-C like the Fuji X and Sony A6000 range.
PS - This deal isn't particularly hot.
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Have you ever used an EM-1 Mark III?
It really depends what you are using it for. For shooting wildlife, this is a fantastic setup.
With Panasonic inching out of the m43 market too I personally wouldn't invest in them (JIP/Olympus) hoping for lots of new stuff. Though what's currently available is quite good. To be fair, I wouldn't invest this kind of $$$ into an m43 camera (this deal) even if Olympus were doing great. It's not a great value proposition IMO.
I think you need to reread my post. I'm not worried. Though clearly Olympus were, hence they sold the division to a company like JIP.
As you say the 1 series is done. Nikon have stopped producing it, stopped marketing it, stopped R&D. It's an abandoned system. As I said for Olympus, that doesn't mean it will stop working overnight, just that there's no future for it. If you're keen to jump into a system with no future then by all means do. It's your money and your prerogative.
Over $2k for a camera with worse subject tracking AF, larger m43 footprint, less impressive noise/DR and is more expensive than many full frame and APSC contemporaries? Why spend so much when there are perfectly fine m43 cameras out there for much less that will get you about the same results. The savings could be spent in good lenses too, which are arguably more important anyway. If I'm a new consumer why would I choose this camera over a Sony, Nikon, Fuji, etc… for this much money?
Truth be told I happen to like m43 cameras, the GX8 is one my all time favorites to shoot with, but I've yet to see a compelling argument for why the camera in this deal in reality, and not on paper, makes sense for the price being asked. So yeah, at this price point it's a poor value proposition.
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i assume you have the kit 14-42 mm lens? keep in mind that 12 is just slightly wider than 14. if 14 doesn't work, 12 won't work either. i have the 9-18, and i really think you need to go under 10mm for any actual wide angle shot. human eye is about 17mm (or 8mm for MFT) for reference.
i assume you have the kit 14-42 mm lens? keep in mind that 12 is just slightly wider than 14. if 14 doesn't work, 12 won't work either. i have the 9-18, and i really think you need to go under 10mm for any actual wide angle shot. human eye is about 17mm (or 8mm for MFT) for reference.