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MRCOOL Advantage 9,000 BTU 3/4 Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner & Heat Pump Expired

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Home Depot has MRCOOL Advantage 3rd Gen 9,000 BTU 3/4 Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner & Heat Pump (A-09-HP-230B) on sale for $592.76 (price shown in cart). Select free ship to store pickup where available to save on shipping. 

Thanks to community member jsam88 for finding this deal.

Please Note: This system is meant to be installed by a HVAC technician. Refer to the product page and forum thread for additional details and discussion.

Key Features:
  • New 3rd generation advantage systems includes SmartHVAC Wi-Fi control module with improved setup and enhanced functionality for Apple and Android smart devices; works with Amazon Alexa; works with Google Assistant
  • Installation by a licensed professional required where applicable
  • 1-year compressor, 2-year parts and 1-year remote warranty when registered and when installed by a licensed professional
  • R-410A environmentally friendly refrigerant
  • Sleep mode, louver position memory, gold fin anti-corrosion and auto restart functions
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Found this at Homedepot's website. Add to cart to see the price. This is the non-DIY 220V version.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MRCOO.../308810701
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I've installed two of these exact units, and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

The main issue that I have with them is that their temperature control/regulation is messed up and the company won't do anything about it in terms of warranty support. If I set one to heat mode and set the temperature setting to a given temp like 72 degrees, the heat starts blasting, and continues heating up until the room is well over 100; it NEVER stops when it's on heating mode-- whether it's set to a temperature the standard way, or with the "follow me" mode on the remote.

When it's in A/C mode or Auto (which uses either A/C or heat as needed) the temperature regulation is extremely poor, when set to 72, the room will vary between 60 and 80.

There are also various more minor issues: the manual contains multiple errors, such as the hole cutout template is wrong for this model etc etc, the wiring diagram was wrong in the manual, and the wiring terminal label sticker was missing from both of my outdoor condensor units. All of these things just point to poor english language technical support from the company.

They don't stand by offering any meaningful warranty support to licensed contractors, and they openly state that homeowners/handyman installers won't get warranty support at all.
After a couple phone calls or emails, they promise to have their tech guys get back in touch, but you never hear from them again.

In the interest of fairness, there are several pros for these models though:
-These units are pretty easy to install (other than relatively minor issues with the manual and wiring diagrams) Also if you're not experience with cutting and brazing the refrigerant lines, then you'll likely wind up with an unsightly coil of extra line somewhere.
-They are QUIET. I don't have a decibel meter, but they are drastically quieter than any window unit or household central A/C that I have heard
- They are quite efficient compared to central A/C units or window/portable units

I hoped that these units could be an economical alternative to higher end brands, but while their mechanical performance is apparently quite good; they are quiet, powerful, and efficient-- the numerous electronic issues make this models a poor choice IME
Check out Midea Air Conditioners , its works like a mini-split but goes in window https://www.midea.com/us/Air-Cond...MAW10V1QWT
Better but harder to install.

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geekwithoutacause
06-08-2021 at 07:48 AM.
06-08-2021 at 07:48 AM.
Quote from Sir Meili :
Here in FL, my house's AC stays around 55-60%. So that's not bad, but you shouldn't have condensation. Also check if your dryer is vented properly and not blocked. The air from your dryer should exit your house, not pump it back into it (though I have seen some interior vents, I'm not sure I would do that due to humidity reasons)
I think I've seen dryers that somehow have the humidity condensate into a reservoir you then have to empty.
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06-08-2021 at 08:47 AM.
06-08-2021 at 08:47 AM.
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HVAC contractor here

They have enough work installing equipment that they furnish. We don't want to install customer supplied equipment. We have distributors that we have been working with for years and often have signed distributor agreements with. We know the warranty process and we are familiar with the equipment.

If we agree to install your equipment, and you didn't buy the right size or the equipment doesn't work well, you'll tell everyone you know that (insert company name here) did a crap job for you and you would never recommend them. We can't remedy the situation because YOU bought the equipment online and you WILL have difficulty with warranty fulfillment.

So there is really no upside for us. We would rather continue installing equipment that we have control of every step of the way. It is how we protect out livelihoods.
I get what you're saying. If I were an HVAC contractor, I probably wouldn't be enthusiastic about installing customer-supplied equipment either if I had plenty of work installing equipment I sold.

However, the quotes I see that people are receiving from HVAC contractors still seem high even if they included the equipment. I don't see why a contractor couldn't make a very nice profit supplying and installing a comparable piece of equipment to this unit for $2,500, which is about the most I would be willing to pay. Even at Home Depot's full retail price of $737 (and the wholesale price an HVAC contractor would pay a distributor would obviously be significantly less), that's a gross profit of over $1,700 for maybe half a day of work. A significant part of that $1,700 obviously goes towards materials and all the costs of doing business, but a contractor would have to be doing something very wrong not to walk away with at least $1,000 in net profit on a job like that. Even half that profit seems decent to me.

The fact that finding a competent contractor to do a job like that for $2,500 is difficult tells me they're getting all the work they want for higher prices. If they can command those prices, more power to them I suppose. It's an interesting business for sure.

It's interesting to hear Linus the YouTube techno wizard talk about his mini-split installation costs. He says he was quoted over $25K Canadian [youtu.be] (about $20K U.S., the video should start at the 3:08 mark where costs are discussed) to install a four-zone mini-split system.
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06-08-2021 at 09:06 AM.
06-08-2021 at 09:06 AM.
Quote from Deal Hound :
I get what you're saying. If I were an HVAC contractor, I probably wouldn't be enthusiastic about installing customer-supplied equipment either if I had plenty of work installing equipment I sold.

However, the quotes I see that people are receiving from HVAC contractors still seem high even if they included the equipment. I don't see why a contractor couldn't make a very nice profit supplying and installing a comparable piece of equipment to this unit for $2,500, which is about the most I would be willing to pay. Even at Home Depot's full retail price of $737 (and the wholesale price an HVAC contractor would pay a distributor would obviously be significantly less), that's a gross profit of over $1,700 for maybe half a day of work. A significant part of that $1,700 obviously goes towards materials and all the costs of doing business, but a contractor would have to be doing something very wrong not to walk away with at least $1,000 in net profit on a job like that. Even half that profit seems decent to me.

The fact that finding a competent contractor to do a job like that for $2,500 is difficult tells me they're getting all the work they want for higher prices. If they can command those prices, more power to them I suppose. It's an interesting business for sure.

It's interesting to hear Linus the YouTube techno wizard talk about his mini-split installation costs. He says he was quoted over $25K Canadian [youtu.be] (about $20K U.S., the video should start at the 3:08 mark where costs are discussed) to install a four-zone mini-split system.
You said it right. It's not about 'net profit' anymore. It's about supply and demand. There is way more demand than supply of hvac contractors. This goes for just about any qualified people (carpenter, plumber, hvac, etc).
People work from home and need stuff done. It's booming and driving prices up rapidly.
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palindrome
06-08-2021 at 02:34 PM.
06-08-2021 at 02:34 PM.
Someone please post a deal for a 12k mini split!! It's getting way too hot.
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06-08-2021 at 07:07 PM.
06-08-2021 at 07:07 PM.
Quote from Snerler :
Funny that "pre-charged" systems are considered DIY even though you have to mount the condenser, cut holes in the house, run and secure the a/c lines and power lines, etc, etc.

But if you have to also vacuum out the lines then it's suddenly a professional install only, LOL.

Most DIY guys don't know jack about cutting and flaring copper, pressure testing, or how to pull a vacuum properly. It's not for your average diyer.
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06-09-2021 at 02:27 AM.
06-09-2021 at 02:27 AM.
Quote from dmasjz45 :
Most DIY guys don't know jack about cutting and flaring copper, pressure testing, or how to pull a vacuum properly. It's not for your average diyer.
I would say it's doable if you pay attention to what you're doing. I watched a few youtube videos and practiced cutting and flaring the copper lines multiple times before doing the final one. Pulled the vacuum for a while, and let it sit for 24 hours to see if it held the vacuum. Opened up the lines and all has been good. I've only done 2, so i'm far from being a pro, BUT i'm very meticulous and careful when I do something I'm not familiar with.
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Quote from dmasjz45 :
Most DIY guys don't know jack about cutting and flaring copper, pressure testing, or how to pull a vacuum properly. It's not for your average diyer.
I can understand how a DIYer might have difficulty checking for leaks or pulling a vacuum properly, but I've never understood the immense difficulty some people (including some professional HVAC technicians) have flaring copper tubing. You slide the flare nut on the tubing, clamp the end of the tubing in the die block, slip the yoke on, and screw the cone down until it bottoms out. Easy! A kindergartner could do it. About the only variable involved is how far to let the tubing extend from the die block, but that can be easily figured out by reading the flaring tool's instructions or after a few minutes of trial and error. These people must be trying to use a broken flaring tool or something.
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06-09-2021 at 04:36 AM.
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Quote from geekwithoutacause :
You said it right. It's not about 'net profit' anymore. It's about supply and demand. There is way more demand than supply of hvac contractors. This goes for just about any qualified people (carpenter, plumber, hvac, etc).
People work from home and need stuff done. It's booming and driving prices up rapidly.
I can't imagine what's going to happen to labor prices in the professions you mentioned if they ever start building houses again in a big way in this country. Those people are probably already making more than the average college graduate. I bet there are some engineering graduates out there who are pissed off they can't find a job or make as much money as an HVAC technician. LMAO
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06-09-2021 at 05:10 AM.
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If your near Menards.

8000 btu
https://www.menards.com/main/heat...176270.htm [menards.com]

Have to search site for the 10k unit.
FYI, They aren't in stock. When you go to buy, they say pickup or shipment in 10 weeks (end of august)
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Quote from Deal Hound :
I get what you're saying. If I were an HVAC contractor, I probably wouldn't be enthusiastic about installing customer-supplied equipment either if I had plenty of work installing equipment I sold.

However, the quotes I see that people are receiving from HVAC contractors still seem high even if they included the equipment. I don't see why a contractor couldn't make a very nice profit supplying and installing a comparable piece of equipment to this unit for $2,500, which is about the most I would be willing to pay. Even at Home Depot's full retail price of $737 (and the wholesale price an HVAC contractor would pay a distributor would obviously be significantly less), that's a gross profit of over $1,700 for maybe half a day of work. A significant part of that $1,700 obviously goes towards materials and all the costs of doing business, but a contractor would have to be doing something very wrong not to walk away with at least $1,000 in net profit on a job like that. Even half that profit seems decent to me.

The fact that finding a competent contractor to do a job like that for $2,500 is difficult tells me they're getting all the work they want for higher prices. If they can command those prices, more power to them I suppose. It's an interesting business for sure.

It's interesting to hear Linus the YouTube techno wizard talk about his mini-split installation costs. He says he was quoted over $25K Canadian [youtu.be] (about $20K U.S., the video should start at the 3:08 mark where costs are discussed) to install a four-zone mini-split system.
you guys are really discussing labor rates. You have to identify where in the country you're talking about. The labor rates in the north east and California are far far higher than other parts of the country. I don't think you can just make a blanket $2500 statement for the whole country, it just doesn't work that way.

I remember when there was a tire deal once and we got to talking, some folks in Georgia were paying $10 to mount an balance a tire. People in the northeast were paying closer to $40 a tire. The labor rates are just completely different.
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06-09-2021 at 06:54 AM.
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Quote from Clinkinfo :
you guys are really discussing labor rates. You have to identify where in the country you're talking about. The labor rates in the north east and California are far far higher than other parts of the country. I don't think you can just make a blanket $2500 statement for the whole country, it just doesn't work that way.

I remember when there was a tire deal once and we got to talking, some folks in Georgia were paying $10 to mount an balance a tire. People in the northeast were paying closer to $40 a tire. The labor rates are just completely different.
If the job requires five hours of labor, the the difference in cost between a $50 and a $200 hourly rate is $750. I had something near the middle of that range in mind when I came up with $2,500. So, replace $2,500 with a range of $2,125 to $2,875 to account for labor rate variations.

Tire installation prices seem to be all over the place in just about any given geographic area. Have a look at this list of tire installation prices in New York City [tirerack.com]. I see prices ranging from $12 to $65 per tire for 50-55 series tires.
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06-28-2021 at 04:07 PM.
06-28-2021 at 04:07 PM.
Any guess on when it will be in stock?
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