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Dell G5 Desktop: i5-10400F, 8GB, 256GB SSD, GTX 1650 SUPER $580 + free s/h (Less w/ SD Cashback) at Dell

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topshelf207
06-13-2021 at 05:51 AM.
06-13-2021 at 05:51 AM.
I just want a 1650 for a reasonable price. Don't need teh whole PC.
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roninido
06-13-2021 at 07:24 AM.
06-13-2021 at 07:24 AM.
Quote from CalmSpaniel3799 :
Got one and it arrives 6/25, these others are hating but if you pair it with the Amex offer you can get it for 460 without tax. The class action is for an alienware laptop. Most of these mass produced computers are going to use cheaper parts, but I'm sure as long as you're in a cool room and not doing anything too intensive it'll be fine.
"Anything too intensive", like, um, gaming? Big Grin
Just kidding, but good luck with it, and let us all know how it goes. For $460, it's a much better deal.

Being a budget gamer, I made the mistake a year ago thinking that "New cards are coming out in a few months, $170 is still just a little too expensive for a 1650 Super, there'll be a better deal soon on a 1660, they'll start dropping below $200".

And here we are.
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roninido
06-13-2021 at 07:42 AM.
06-13-2021 at 07:42 AM.
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Mine has a VGA port with a cap over it. I have 3 other ports HDMI, DVI and Displayport . I looked everywhere on BIOS setting but don't see an option to enable it . Was curious to see if you know ....

edit: a closer look, it does have an on board HDMI with a cap cover as well like you said . regardless whether it is HDMI or VGA. it would be cool if I can enable one of them . I want to run 4 monitors. thanks
Pretty sure there is no way to enable onboard graphics on these devices
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roninido
06-13-2021 at 07:47 AM.
06-13-2021 at 07:47 AM.
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Nice to get pc for a price of video card I guess the card is good for 1080 gaming. How much I can sell the pc for without card.
This computer is essentially unusable without a dedicated graphics card. No way to enable onboard graphics.
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06-13-2021 at 09:43 AM.
06-13-2021 at 09:43 AM.
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Just a heads up these Dell G5 gaming rigs are deadend platforms. They're littered with proprietary form factor parts which makes upgrading anything besides maybe a simple memory upgrade not possible. They also have pretty terrible thermal performance.

If you decide on getting one just be aware that its pretty much a throwaway system at the end of it's life. I'm sure there are a handful of part you can salvage from it for your next build but the majority of it will end up as e-waste.
I think the problem is that many people looking for computers here on Slickdeals don't understand just what is meant by "proprietary" parts.

These Dell G5s use motherboards that are not any ATX spec, so you can't put the motherboard in another case (really not a big deal, rare that you would buy one and change cases). But not being ATX, if the power supply goes, you have to get a Dell PSU made for this computer, and you can't just (a) throw in a regular ATX PSU or (b) put the motherboard and parts into another case/PSU combo.
They use power supplies that are, again, not any kind of CURRENT normal ATX formfactor (reviews say they are similar to, but not the same as theoretically upcoming standard ATX12VO). Instead of supplying power directly from the PSU to drives and other peripherals that use 5V power, the PSU supplies 12V to the motherboard, which then converts and supplies 5V power to them. So you probably couldn't add a bunch of extra hard drives in this computer, if any at all.

For people who don't know much about computers, this all means that if you buy this, and 18 months from now your motherboard goes bad, you can't just buy a budget motherboard and replace it in this case. If your power supply goes bad, you can't just replace it with a $30 EVGA ATX PSU. If you buy this and you want to add a few hard drives to it (I have one for software, one for games, and one for media, as well as an SSD for my OS), you probably won't be able to. If you find a Slickdeal on a KEWL RGB GAMERZZZZ COMPUTER CASE WITH MORE RGBZ AND RGB FANS, you won't be able to take the guts out of this and install it in that case.

And I don't just mean this for those of us who work on our own computers. If you bring it to a shop, they won't be able to do any of this either.
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06-13-2021 at 11:53 AM.
06-13-2021 at 11:53 AM.
Quote from roninido :
I think the problem is that many people looking for computers here on Slickdeals don't understand just what is meant by "proprietary" parts.

These Dell G5s use motherboards that are not any ATX spec, so you can't put the motherboard in another case (really not a big deal, rare that you would buy one and change cases). But not being ATX, if the power supply goes, you have to get a Dell PSU made for this computer, and you can't just (a) throw in a regular ATX PSU or (b) put the motherboard and parts into another case/PSU combo.
They use power supplies that are, again, not any kind of CURRENT normal ATX formfactor (reviews say they are similar to, but not the same as theoretically upcoming standard ATX12VO). Instead of supplying power directly from the PSU to drives and other peripherals that use 5V power, the PSU supplies 12V to the motherboard, which then converts and supplies 5V power to them. So you probably couldn't add a bunch of extra hard drives in this computer, if any at all.

For people who don't know much about computers, this all means that if you buy this, and 18 months from now your motherboard goes bad, you can't just buy a budget motherboard and replace it in this case. If your power supply goes bad, you can't just replace it with a $30 EVGA ATX PSU. If you buy this and you want to add a few hard drives to it (I have one for software, one for games, and one for media, as well as an SSD for my OS), you probably won't be able to. If you find a Slickdeal on a KEWL RGB GAMERZZZZ COMPUTER CASE WITH MORE RGBZ AND RGB FANS, you won't be able to take the guts out of this and install it in that case.

And I don't just mean this for those of us who work on our own computers. If you bring it to a shop, they won't be able to do any of this either.
I think most of the SDers that have chimed in are akamai enough to know this stuff. (Well, maybe not the details, but the issue of nonreplaceable proprietary parts.) However, thank you for stating this point so eloquently.
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ScarletFlower8318
06-13-2021 at 12:47 PM.
06-13-2021 at 12:47 PM.
Thanks OP for this post.
Just ordered one.

I have already added AMEX $120 for Dell.com > $600 offer to my card.
Got an instant email from AMEX saying if this purchase is eligible, would have that amount credited to my card.

So for California, its $637-120 = $517 (including Tax)
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anaccounthasnoname
06-13-2021 at 01:43 PM.
06-13-2021 at 01:43 PM.
These Dell G5 PCs are complete and total trash. YouTube Gamer's Nexus and Dell G5. Every component in them is either total chintzy trash, or proprietary, or both. Even the GPU is bottom-of-the-barrel garbage. You won't even be able to sell it because people are so wary of prebuilt GPUs these days.
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06-13-2021 at 01:48 PM.
06-13-2021 at 01:48 PM.
Quote from J.treehorn :
With a discreet graphics card, the dell can do everything the apple can do, but the apple can't do everything the dell can do. Good graphics cards will allow your PC to power the latest and future display technologies.
The problem is that these use proprietary motherboards and power supplies, so you're realistically never going to be able to upgrade the graphics to anything in the 20-series or 30-series because of that limitation.

As for what Macs can do that Dells can't and vice-versa -- for everyday usage, an M1 Mac Mini runs circles around all but the highest end CPUs, and can even game competently at 1080p with the anemic 7 or 8-core M1 GPU via Rosetta 2.
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06-13-2021 at 01:54 PM.
06-13-2021 at 01:54 PM.
Quote from roninido :
I think the problem is that many people looking for computers here on Slickdeals don't understand just what is meant by "proprietary" parts.

These Dell G5s use motherboards that are not any ATX spec, so you can't put the motherboard in another case (really not a big deal, rare that you would buy one and change cases). But not being ATX, if the power supply goes, you have to get a Dell PSU made for this computer, and you can't just (a) throw in a regular ATX PSU or (b) put the motherboard and parts into another case/PSU combo.
They use power supplies that are, again, not any kind of CURRENT normal ATX formfactor (reviews say they are similar to, but not the same as theoretically upcoming standard ATX12VO). Instead of supplying power directly from the PSU to drives and other peripherals that use 5V power, the PSU supplies 12V to the motherboard, which then converts and supplies 5V power to them. So you probably couldn't add a bunch of extra hard drives in this computer, if any at all.

For people who don't know much about computers, this all means that if you buy this, and 18 months from now your motherboard goes bad, you can't just buy a budget motherboard and replace it in this case. If your power supply goes bad, you can't just replace it with a $30 EVGA ATX PSU. If you buy this and you want to add a few hard drives to it (I have one for software, one for games, and one for media, as well as an SSD for my OS), you probably won't be able to. If you find a Slickdeal on a KEWL RGB GAMERZZZZ COMPUTER CASE WITH MORE RGBZ AND RGB FANS, you won't be able to take the guts out of this and install it in that case.

And I don't just mean this for those of us who work on our own computers. If you bring it to a shop, they won't be able to do any of this either.
Quote from anaccounthasnoname :
The problem is that these use proprietary motherboards and power supplies, so you're realistically never going to be able to upgrade the graphics to anything in the 20-series or 30-series because of that limitation.

As for what Macs can do that Dells can't and vice-versa -- for everyday usage, an M1 Mac Mini runs circles around all but the highest end CPUs, and can even game competently at 1080p with the anemic 7 or 8-core M1 GPU via Rosetta 2.
how about this FP deal last week for $650?
XPS 8940

https://slickdeals.net/f/15079354-dell-xps-8940-desktop-i5-11400-8gb-ddr4-512gb-nvme-gtx-1660-super-6gb-650-2-5-sd-cashback?v=1
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c_hack
06-13-2021 at 04:52 PM.
06-13-2021 at 04:52 PM.
Quote from Buildogs :
Mac mini would be better
But you have to pay apple for programs and apps
Very little is free

Apple gives you their version of Office for free, unlike MS. It's not as powerful but fine for home use. Software costs money on both platforms. The Mac Mini is not loaded with bloatware - that's free software I can do without.
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06-13-2021 at 04:58 PM.
06-13-2021 at 04:58 PM.
Quote from c_hack :
Apple gives you their version of Office for free, unlike MS. It's not as powerful but fine for home use. Software costs money on both platforms. The Mac Mini is not loaded with bloatware - that's free software I can do without.
Their are plenty of free Office like programs for MAC, PC, Android, Linux, etc. MS Office is still the most widely used and you get it legally for a whole household 6 users for $99 a year and each user gets a GB of cloud storage.
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06-13-2021 at 05:00 PM.
06-13-2021 at 05:00 PM.
The cpu is why you needs a graphics card -- the "F" series has no graphics. To those who are talking about prices a few months ago--Geez read a newspaper or something. Prices are on the rise.
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roninido
06-13-2021 at 07:03 PM.
06-13-2021 at 07:03 PM.
Quote from 1dash1 :
I think most of the SDers that have chimed in are akamai enough to know this stuff. (Well, maybe not the details, but the issue of nonreplaceable proprietary parts.) However, thank you for stating this point so eloquently.
I agree, I just posted because I was considering buying one of these a while back, and didn't pull the trigger after I looked closer at them.

I usually build my own computers, and I usually use them until they are DONE (I still have a Pentium G3258 with a Radeon 7870 pulling video duty). We have five gamers in our house, still have an R9 270, an R7 370, and Alienware Steam Machine used daily. Last year I was building some budget Ryzen systems to upgrade everyone, then everything went south.

Usually, when I hear "proprietary", I find creative ways of getting around most of that; for example, I found a discarded Xbox 360 that didn't have a power brick, so I was able to adapt an ATX PSU to use it. In the case of these G5s, everything is SO proprietary that I don't see it as worth the purchase.

The last prebuilt computer I purchased,the Dell from this Black Friday deal in 2017, is the first prebuilt I bought in over 15 years. EDIT: I forgot about the ~$200 Alienware Steam Machine from Gamestop, so it's actually the second prebuilt I bought in over 15 years. I bought it because at the time, there was barely a difference in cost between buying that, and building one, and it came with a free Dell Visor WMR headset. The video card, an RX580, died before the warranty was up; the replacement died again (or so I thought) about nine months later, and the computer wouldn't even POST with it installed. I put an old R9 270 in it, and it started right up. It wasn't until a few months later, when I was building one of the Ryzen systems (a 3200G), that I even thought to try the 580 in another computer. No issues installing it, it is on and working right now. I figured I'd put it back in the original computer, again, no POST. So the Dell video card works in a DIY rig, but it actually disables the Dell computer it came in.

Sorry for the long post, again, I just feel like these are a complete crapshoot. It may end up being a great system that lasts for ten years, or it may cost you hundreds of dollars to repair weeks after the warranty runs out.
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06-13-2021 at 07:06 PM.
06-13-2021 at 07:06 PM.
No idea, check reviews on Youtube. I would tend to trust XPS systems more than the G5s, though.
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