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Amazon has Select 6-Pack Crisp Air Filters MERV 8 (Various Sizes) on sale below for prices from $24.77 > Now $26.02. Shipping is free with Prime or on orders $25+.

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    • It's recommended to change your filters every 90 days to maintain optimal filtrationMade in the U.S.A
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RonPaulFan
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Depends on the specific filter. 3M add more pleats which means more filter area.

The MERV 13 in the 3M brand has a lower pressure drop (air flow resistance) than their MERV 5, 7, 11, and 12.

3M MERV 5 - 0.23 pressure drop
3M MERV 7 - 0.24 pressure drop
3M MERV 11 - 0.23 pressure drop
3M MERV 12 - 0.22 pressure drop
3M MERV 13 - 0.19 pressure drop

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cpc13
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It really depends on the HVAC system and what it's designed for. Lower end and older ones are typically not built to handle the higher MERV filters. Newer and better ones are built to handle it without issue, though. For example, my HVAC air handler has a sticker on it that specifically says:
Evan55
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What a terrible thing that the slickdeals community informs and educates fellow slickdealers

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whoopdaddy
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"Each filter is made in the U.S.A"
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PaulD8850
Aug 2, 2021
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Quote from jon_laura5 :
Oh No...here comes the AC know-it-alls explaining the good, the bad, and the ugly of MERV's, overworking your air handler, etc... Every home air filter thread on SD gets infected with them...
MERV 8-11 is the "sweet" spot, shouldn't be too much hate. They filter well, but are not too restrictive for most handlers.
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daddydeals
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Quote from Dyscalculic :
I'll probably regret it cause the store will increase prices seeing SD influx, but the best deals for filters are on Zoro.
Zoro is amazing if they carry what you need. My only knock on them is sometimes their pictures don't match the product, like at all.
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GreenPanther4395
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Quote from Tedclu :
I can't find any cheap fiberglass filter any more. Thanks to 3M's marketing.

It is a fact high MERV# put more stress your ac. Family had 40 years in the filter business.
And 40 years ago they would have been right.

But times do change. HVAC engineers design products to a specification. Almost all modern systems are designed for Merv 8-11. Check your system - it should say.
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ToolNut
Aug 2, 2021
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Quote from Bollocks :
This works great but it is unsightly. Part of the benefit of buying expensive air purifiers is not having to hide it when company comes over.
I have never met someone that purchased an air purifier because it looked good in their home….lol Guess my wife is right and I don't know everything!
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jhyman
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Quote from jan474 :
Wow! Only quarter of percent of pressure drop, it's really nothing for your AC.

And most of esteem audience here had me convinced better filters are bad..
These are not percentages. They are measures of the static pressure drop caused by the fitler, and the measurement is wc or inches of water column.

Most systems are intended to work optimally with static pressures of .5 wc or less. So this particular MERV 7 filter uses up about half of that. There are a lot of systems that are oversized for their ductwork, so in those cases you're already dealing with higher pressures and want to keep the filter drop as low as possible.

Think about the fan blowing air. The ductwork, grills, coils in your blower, etc. all add resistance to the fan being able to move air (increase the static pressure). The higher the static pressure, the harder your system has to work and the less efficient it is. If you have an older system with a PSC blower motor as the pressure increases it just moves less air. In a worst case scenario, it's possible that it won't move enough air to prevent your coils from freezing up or your furnace from overheating. This can also happen if you never change your filter and it gets too clogged up.

A higher pressure drop can be correlated to higher MERV ratings (particularly in cheaper filters), but as these numbers show it's not always the case. If you really want to run high MERV filters (most people without pets or respiratory conditions won't need to), the general recommendation is to use a 4" or 5" deep filter. The deeper filter helps reduce the pressure drop.

Edit: Also systems aren't designed to MERV specifications as filters with the same MERV rating can have vastly different pressure drops. Most people with newer systems won't be in a situation where a slightly higher MERV filter reduces the lifespan of their equipment meaningfully. Most people will also not benefit from a super high MERV filter and are just paying more. The most important thing is to change your filter regularly!
Last edited by jhyman August 2, 2021 at 01:38 PM.
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Bob64
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Quote from jan474 :
Wow! Only quarter of percent of pressure drop, it's really nothing for your AC.

And most of esteem audience here had me convinced better filters are bad..
That's not measured in percentages of airflow, the units are inches of water column.

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in for 6-PK..Walmart was getting expensive at $8 each for 20x25x1 cheapest brand..this is better deal..
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cpc13
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Quote from jan474 :
Wow! Only quarter of percent of pressure drop, it's really nothing for your AC.

And most of esteem audience here had me convinced better filters are bad..
Assuming that all manufacturers follow the same model as a premium brand (3M) that charges significantly higher prices for their high-end offerings is a great way to shorten the life of your HVAC.

If you read the comments here and came away with "better filters are bad", then you missed the point. Use what's appropriate and don't go above your HVAC manufacturer's recommendations unless you've really done your homework and know what you're doing.

As someone who replaced their entire HVAC system last year, I know firsthand the expense that comes with that replacement.
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Quote from ph1aak :
This is accurate. The higher the MERV, the harder your system has to work to pull the air through it
Not necessarily true. Check the specs and you will see.
So it is magic? No— the expensive higher merv filters use much higher pleating increasing overall surface area of the filter material. Though air resistance pressure per square inch for higher merv filters may be higher than those of lower merv filters, but the increased surface area of the higher merv filters compensate for that.
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jan474
Aug 2, 2021
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Quote from HansGruber :
You don't want to go higher than Merv 8 on filters. I have used Merv 11. It bogs down your system. Merv 8 runs perfect.
Quote from CalvinTran :
do you understand the rating means? don't just look at the numbers and say they were doing nothing. BTW, I don't understand so I can't tell if they are good or bad. Just like dB, 3dB looks like a small increase.
Quote from PaulD8850 :
MERV 8-11 is the "sweet" spot, shouldn't be too much hate. They filter well, but are not too restrictive for most handlers.
Quote from jhyman :
These are not percentages. They are measures of the static pressure drop caused by the fitler, and the measurement is wc or inches of water column.

Most systems are intended to work optimally with static pressures of .5 wc or less. So this particular MERV 7 filter uses up about half of that. There are a lot of systems that are oversized for their ductwork, so in those cases you're already dealing with higher pressures and want to keep the filter drop as low as possible.

Think about the fan blowing air. The ductwork, grills, coils in your blower, etc. all add resistance to the fan being able to move air (increase the static pressure). The higher the static pressure, the harder your system has to work and the less efficient it is. If you have an older system with a PSC blower motor as the pressure increases it just moves less air. In a worst case scenario, it's possible that it won't move enough air to prevent your coils from freezing up or your furnace from overheating. This can also happen if you never change your filter and it gets too clogged up.

A higher pressure drop can be correlated to higher MERV ratings (particularly in cheaper filters), but as these numbers show it's not always the case. If you really want to run high MERV filters (most people without pets or respiratory conditions won't need to), the general recommendation is to use a 4" or 5" deep filter. The deeper filter helps reduce the pressure drop.
Quote from Bob64 :
That's not measured in percentages of airflow, the units are inches of water column.
Quote from cpc13 :
Assuming that all manufacturers follow the same model as a premium brand (3M) that charges significantly higher prices for their high-end offerings is a great way to shorten the life of your HVAC.

If you read the comments here and came away with "better filters are bad", then you missed the point. Use what's appropriate and don't go above your HVAC manufacturer's recommendations unless you've really done your homework and know what you're doing.

As someone who replaced their entire HVAC system last year, I know firsthand the expense that comes with that replacement.
Yeah, I looked again and it does not say percentage, I don't know what I was reading!

I guess regular filters and my 3 winnix purifiers will have to do.

BTW is there better way to tag and respond to multiple instead of quoting?
Last edited by jan474 August 2, 2021 at 01:56 PM.
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tmfm
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Quote from SebastianB9810 :
It's true tho. These "know-it-alls" are probably professionals in the industry (like me) and are just trying to teach others… what's wrong with that?
nothing, but there can be a wide range of answers from professionals. It's kind of like asking a mechanic what oil is best. I had 2 different professionals, from the same company, tell me 2 different things. The guy that couldn't figure out where my ac was leaking told me not to use anything but those green (fiber glass?) filters. The next guy found the issue nearly immediately (copper rubbing against copper wore a hole in a line), and braised the line to fix it. He said use w/e filters you want (or that what I was using was fine MERV 11), gave a bunch of reasons, but I was already sold; he was highly competent.
Last edited by tmfm August 2, 2021 at 01:48 PM.
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TheBigAlphaMale
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Quote from ToolNut :
These fit the standard "20" box fan sold at Walmart, Home Depot, etc. I stopped using the expensive "home air purifiers" years ago and just rubber band these to the box fan. Doing this YOU choose the filtration ability you want AND even better, this way costs ALOT less than air purifier systems filters!
saw the guys on this old house or whatever it was on PBS make a box fan set up with filters around it last year sometime. I thought about doing this for the dog kennel to keep the pet dander/hair mess more manageable and maybe doing one in the house and running it at night so it will not be seen by anyone but me but never got around to it and forgot about it until reading your post reminded me. Im hoping doing it in the house would keep the dust down and guess I wont really know if it works until i give it a try! Applause
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HansGruber
Aug 2, 2021
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MERV 11 filters work fine but your AC/Furnace are under much heavier load. The performance is not as good unless you have an industrial sized blower. Some Merv 11 is really Merv 8. Some Merv 8 is really Merv 6. The Rheem filters at Home Depot are rated Merv 8 but really Merv 6 in my opinion. But they are pleated and not the blue or green fiber glass filters that do nothing in regards to filtration. You can tell the Merv rating by looking through the filter in light. If you can see through it at all it's Merv 6. Merv 8 you can see light but not much else. I use the AirX dust and they work better on my system than the dust/smoke and bacteria Air-x which went up in price.

There is a guy on youtube who tested all the filters and concluded that improved filtering was based on the thickness of your air filter. So a 14x25x1 is good but a 14x25x2 or 14x25x4 is even better. Most furnaces/air handlers do not have room for thicker air filters. So most including me are stuck with the 1" filters.

You want a filter that will not restrict air flow but restrict dust and particles efficiently. The simple solution is by the cheapest filters that are pleated and change them once a month instead of once over 3 months.

The real Merv 11 filters are sometimes yellow/orange in color but not always. The media aka. filter material is very thick and not transparent.
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dcmanryan
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Quote from maxentropy :
Makes sense that higher MERV# chokes the AC but also keeps out small particles from recirculating-- that said what's the recommended "right" amount of balance of cleaning the return air vs not stressing the central air?

I've been using MERV 11 for 25+ years on the same AC. Curious what the experts say.
It obviously handles it fine so keep on trucking. MERV 11 you'll start to see issues if your furnace can't handle it. 20 year HVAC tech here and I use and find a MERV 8 is the best all around and if your system is 30 years old or newer and can't handle a MERV 8 you have HVAC issues beyond the filter.

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