Wow, 13,000+ reviews with an average score hovering around 4.5 stars? Initially I was very pleased to see that, but closer inspection disappoints. As Amazon so often does with product lines comprising a "family" of loosely related products--- gummy candies come to mind--- they have lumped together many, many reviews that don't apply to this "Lil' Grillers" product. If you search the reviews for the ones that actually mention "Lil Grillers," the Amazon search engine coughs up less than 40 testimonials, and a lot of those reviews are lackluster (aside: the product that seems to have the most glowing reviews is the Lil' Friskees Lil' Soup line).
My wife hates it when a box of never-seen-before cat food shows up on the doorstep and my only defense is "but it was on sale at Amazon for a record low price!" Usually our cat either ignores it, or vomits it all back up an hour after eating it. We end up giving these feline impulse buys to the local pet shelter most of the time.
Here are the ingredients:
Water, Chicken, Liver, Wheat Gluten, Corn Starch-modified, Artificial And Natural Flavors, Soy Flour, Soy Protein Concentrate, Added Color, Taurine, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1). A625319
2 meat ingredients, and the rest are filers and items to raise the protein content, although cats are not designed to be able to digest plant protein like dogs so these ingredients are not beneficial for cats.
If y'all gonna feed cheap food to your cat on the daily, you'd better be able to fork up $5000 in surgery when their organs starts to fail due to years if strain in their digestive system. Since you know, you're the one who's killing your kitty so you can save a buck or two.
If y'all gonna feed cheap food to your cat on the daily, you'd better be able to fork up $5000 in surgery when their organs starts to fail due to years if strain in their digestive system. Since you know, you're the one who's killing your kitty so you can save a buck or two.
Expensive food doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good food. Most of them are simply marketing gimmicks.
Expensive food doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good food. Most of them are simply marketing gimmicks.
It does if you know how to read the ingredients list. I can tell you 99% of the time it has better ingredients(not 100% perfect but most definitely limited fillers if any). As a matter of fact, I don't think you can find a premium priced cat food with a list of bad ingredients. I challenge you to do so. If you can't, then I'll accept that you could not find a premium cat food with bad list of ingredients and could not find the "marketing gimmick".
This isn't about winning or losing. I just simply am curious which company wants to charge a premium while having a crap list of ingredients.
Just to note though, it doesn't even have to be "premium" food to have a list of good ingredients. Even the middle of the road ones have good ingredients if you know what to look for and in what order the ingredients are in. What I can tell you for certain is that 90% and up cheap cat food has a list of bad ingredients that might not show its effect in the first few years but the second half of your cat's life. Of course there are those outliers where they eat like crap and live 15+ years just like smokers who live past 80.
P.S. - I consider all highly processed dried food bad so don't include those. Look up WW2 and how highly processed dried pet food came to be. Long story short, it was out of necessity for humans at the cost of our little companions since they were considered non-essentials.
It does if you know how to read the ingredients list. I can tell you 99% of the time it has better ingredients(not 100% perfect but most definitely limited fillers if any). As a matter of fact, I don't think you can find a premium priced cat food with a list of bad ingredients. I challenge you to do so. If you can't, then I'll accept that you could not find a premium cat food with bad list of ingredients and could not find the "marketing gimmick".
This isn't about winning or losing. I just simply am curious which company wants to charge a premium while having a crap list of ingredients.
Just to note though, it doesn't even have to be "premium" food to have a list of good ingredients. Even the middle of the road ones have good ingredients if you know what to look for and in what order the ingredients are in. What I can tell you for certain is that 90% and up cheap cat food has a list of bad ingredients that might not show its effect in the first few years but the second half of your cat's life. Of course there are those outliers where they eat like crap and live 15+ years just like smokers who live past 80.
P.S. - I consider all highly processed dried food bad so don't include those. Look up WW2 and how highly processed dried pet food came to be. Long story short, it was out of necessity for humans at the cost of our little companions since they were considered non-essentials.
I know Royal Canine charges a premium but their ingredients isn't that great.
I know Royal Canine charges a premium but their ingredients isn't that great.
Thank you for that, I stand corrected as you've found one. Did not know that there was a company/brand out there who's willing to do that. At base price they're charging roughly 0.57 per ounce with a list of bad ingredients. In comparison to Tiki Cat in this case 0.44 per ounce for good ingredients. However if you look at the list of ingredients, it is SO much better.
But seriously, the nerves Royal Canin is charging. I believe Royal Canin would be that 1% who's getting away with it. Actually I'm starting to think Royal Canin isn't supposed to be premium cat food, just overpriced cat food lol.
So the key takeaway from this is that at the end of the day, read the ingredients list. I've found "most" mid-high price tag food has in general better ingredients but as you've proven, not all. On the other side of the spectrum, lower end pet food tends to have lower quality across the board, the one in this thread is an example of one.
Because most online reviewers and pet guardians are morons.
And cheap... Not frugal but outright cheap. They'd sooner put their cats and dogs down than to work out a payment plan the moment is reaches $1000 up. If you can't afford $1000 up at any given time, get a damn pet insurance plan. If your pet insurance plan in the area is too high, just get a quote and save that much money every single month to use as a pet-only rainy days fund.
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6% max protein. Good brands usually have 9% or more for wet food.
If you care about your cat and future medical bills, you should probably pass.
My wife hates it when a box of never-seen-before cat food shows up on the doorstep and my only defense is "but it was on sale at Amazon for a record low price!" Usually our cat either ignores it, or vomits it all back up an hour after eating it. We end up giving these feline impulse buys to the local pet shelter most of the time.
6% max protein. Good brands usually have 9% or more for wet food.
If you care about your cat and future medical bills, you should probably pass.
This is meant to be a complement, not main food. Also, it's 6% min protein, not max.
It's still food that gets digested and they are still digesting basically soy flour and artifical flavors.
The small intestine doesn't really say, "well, it's a snack, so I'm not going to process it."
https://www.chewy.com/friskies-li.../dp/228901
Here are the ingredients:
Water, Chicken, Liver, Wheat Gluten, Corn Starch-modified, Artificial And Natural Flavors, Soy Flour, Soy Protein Concentrate, Added Color, Taurine, Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1). A625319
2 meat ingredients, and the rest are filers and items to raise the protein content, although cats are not designed to be able to digest plant protein like dogs so these ingredients are not beneficial for cats.
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Expensive food doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good food. Most of them are simply marketing gimmicks.
This isn't about winning or losing. I just simply am curious which company wants to charge a premium while having a crap list of ingredients.
Just to note though, it doesn't even have to be "premium" food to have a list of good ingredients. Even the middle of the road ones have good ingredients if you know what to look for and in what order the ingredients are in. What I can tell you for certain is that 90% and up cheap cat food has a list of bad ingredients that might not show its effect in the first few years but the second half of your cat's life. Of course there are those outliers where they eat like crap and live 15+ years just like smokers who live past 80.
P.S. - I consider all highly processed dried food bad so don't include those. Look up WW2 and how highly processed dried pet food came to be. Long story short, it was out of necessity for humans at the cost of our little companions since they were considered non-essentials.
Friskies is one of the worst overall foods on the market; most are nutritionally significantly below average.
Horrible undigestable ingredients: Wheat Gluten, Corn Starch-modified, Soy Flour, Soy Protein Concentrate.
https://catfooddb.com/search?search=F
This isn't about winning or losing. I just simply am curious which company wants to charge a premium while having a crap list of ingredients.
Just to note though, it doesn't even have to be "premium" food to have a list of good ingredients. Even the middle of the road ones have good ingredients if you know what to look for and in what order the ingredients are in. What I can tell you for certain is that 90% and up cheap cat food has a list of bad ingredients that might not show its effect in the first few years but the second half of your cat's life. Of course there are those outliers where they eat like crap and live 15+ years just like smokers who live past 80.
P.S. - I consider all highly processed dried food bad so don't include those. Look up WW2 and how highly processed dried pet food came to be. Long story short, it was out of necessity for humans at the cost of our little companions since they were considered non-essentials.
I know Royal Canine charges a premium but their ingredients isn't that great.
Link comparisons from Petco -
Royal Canin - https://www.petco.com/shop/en/pet...5005440--1
Tiki Cat - https://www.petco.com/shop/en/pet...t-cat-food
Link comparisons CatDB -
Royal Canin - http://catfooddb.com/product/roya...f+In+Sau
Tiki Cat - http://catfooddb.com/product/tiki...en+%26+E
But seriously, the nerves Royal Canin is charging. I believe Royal Canin would be that 1% who's getting away with it. Actually I'm starting to think Royal Canin isn't supposed to be premium cat food, just overpriced cat food lol.
So the key takeaway from this is that at the end of the day, read the ingredients list. I've found "most" mid-high price tag food has in general better ingredients but as you've proven, not all. On the other side of the spectrum, lower end pet food tends to have lower quality across the board, the one in this thread is an example of one.