They need to stop making laptops with less than 512GB immediately. The fact that they charge $200 for an upgrade is outrageous, when consumer prices for high end 500GB SSD's are less than $50. How the heck does making these laptops which will last a couple years not have an effect on then environment?
They need to stop making laptops with less than 512GB immediately. The fact that they charge $200 for an upgrade is outrageous, when consumer prices for high end 500GB SSD's are less than $50. How the heck does making these laptops which will last a couple years not have an effect on then environment?
Why do you need more than 256GB?
For school work and coding its honestly enough, If you NEED more then buy more.
Most people I know dont actually need more than 256 GB. They just think they need more.
I have 4TB NVMe SSD in my gaming desktop, but thats because I need the space for all my games. I have a 256 GB macbook because I literally dont need more than that in my macbook, as I dont use it for games.
For those that are looking to keep a laptop more than 1 year - not so much.
The display is on a whole other level.
Brightness on the Air is about 300-350 nits - meaning at 50% brightness (what battery tests are based on) the screen will be at 150 nitts.
Macbook 14" has a max brightness of 1600 nits with a sustained brightness of 1000 nits.
Meaning you can set your brightness at 50% and it still will be brighter than the Air at 100% brightness.
All of this may seem pointless, but it means the 14" has dramatically better battery life.
Processor speed at least 3x the Air with 2-3x the battery life.
That's not even mentioning the ProMotion display.
Nothing wrong with the Air, it's the best budget laptop on the market hands down, but let's not go overboard and act like the Air is better than the 14"
uhhh what? you can't compare battery life based on just the display
macbook air has bettery battery life even at 50wh vs 70wh
For those that are looking to keep a laptop more than 1 year - not so much.
The display is on a whole other level.
Brightness on the Air is about 300-350 nits - meaning at 50% brightness (what battery tests are based on) the screen will be at 150 nitts.
Macbook 14" has a max brightness of 1600 nits with a sustained brightness of 1000 nits.
Meaning you can set your brightness at 50% and it still will be brighter than the Air at 100% brightness.
All of this may seem pointless, but it means the 14" has dramatically better battery life.
Processor speed at least 3x the Air with 2-3x the battery life.
That's not even mentioning the ProMotion display.
Nothing wrong with the Air, it's the best budget laptop on the market hands down, but let's not go overboard and act like the Air is better than the 14"
You are pulling battery stats out of your ass. Apple rates M1 Air as 18 hours streaming, 15 hours web browsing. And the 14 inch Pro as a 17 hour streaming, 11 hours web browsing device.
Of course, the real battery results will only be known once the reviews are in, but Apple usually does not undersell their high end products' batteries and your estimations seem to be out of nowhere. Also, how much faster the 8-core M1 pro is compared to M1 Air is unknown.
You are pulling battery stats out of your ass. Apple rates M1 Air as 18 hours streaming, 15 hours web browsing. And the 14 inch Pro as a 17 hour streaming, 11 hours web browsing device.
Of course, the real battery results will only be known once the reviews are in, but Apple usually does not undersell their high end products' batteries and your estimations seem to be out of nowhere. Also, how much faster the 8-core M1 pro is compared to M1 Air is unknown.
What am i pulling out of my ass?
The screen brightness is 4x as bright as the M1 Air in the 14"
It's right there in black and white.
Battery tests mean nothing unless you know what the brightness level is at.
That's why many Windows PC and even Macs advertise high battery life - but many people, esp those working under fluorescent office lights have their brightness set at 100%
Setting your brightness at 100% on the Macbook Air nets you 300-350 nits
Setting your brightness at 50% on the 14" Macbook Pro nets you 500-600 nits
That combined with the ProMotion display gives you a higher battery life.
But please tell me more about how screen brightness doesnt affect battery life lol
For school work and coding its honestly enough, If you NEED more then buy more.
Most people I know dont actually need more than 256 GB. They just think they need more.
I have 4TB NVMe SSD in my gaming desktop, but thats because I need the space for all my games. I have a 256 GB macbook because I literally dont need more than that in my macbook, as I dont use it for games.
The better question is, Why do they NEED to put in 256GB and charge $200 for industry standard storage? I NEED 512GB because this is professional grade laptop for big boys, not a Chromebook.
70GB is taken up by OS and swap. A couple VM's take up an extra 100GB. A couple 4K movies takes up 20-50GB a piece. Forget about downloading a season of a TV series. I have a few tech courses download which take up another 30-40GB. None of these are outrageous things only top of the line specced machines should be able to do. The only limiting factor for these is SSD. RAM will become an issue in 2 years for people who buy 8GB RAM laptops today.
This isn't 2014 where TV's and monitors are 1080p. Also, solid state prices are pennies on the dollar. It made sense to use less storage when SSD's were introduced because they were expensive. In 2012, Apple used a 500GB HDD in the MBP. Today's SSD prices are equivalent to HDD prices of 2012. What really is outrageous is the fact that the price difference between a high-end 256GB SSD and a 512GB of the same model is about $15, but Apple wants consumers to pay $200.
We get it, your needs could be met with a Chromebook or an old Lenovo with linux and libreoffice and VScode. However, Apple is contributing to harming the environment by selling baseline laptops which are on the edge of obsolescence.
Maybe it's just me, will never buy a computer that I can't upgrade or repair by myself down the road.
Then you never will use a light weight laptop then. All light weight laptops have solder components and can't be upgraded. It's not just a apple thing.
Then you never will use a light weight laptop then. All light weight laptops have solder components and can't be upgraded. It's not just a apple thing.
Lacking vision lol? This is about buying a lightweight laptop you can trust its reliable vs buying something that is new and untested. BTW I know about framework laptop, but I'm not going to spend $$$ to be a guinea pig. Early adopters always loses (EV/Solar/Etc)
Framework might fold in a year or two. Who knows? Why would I spend money to take a chance? No track record on laptop quality/warranty/future support.
I'll take my chances on an Apple/Dell/Sony/HP/etc since they been around a while and knowing they CAN cover warranty and build a somewhat decent laptop.
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For school work and coding its honestly enough, If you NEED more then buy more.
Most people I know dont actually need more than 256 GB. They just think they need more.
I have 4TB NVMe SSD in my gaming desktop, but thats because I need the space for all my games. I have a 256 GB macbook because I literally dont need more than that in my macbook, as I dont use it for games.
For those that are looking to keep a laptop more than 1 year - not so much.
The display is on a whole other level.
Brightness on the Air is about 300-350 nits - meaning at 50% brightness (what battery tests are based on) the screen will be at 150 nitts.
Macbook 14" has a max brightness of 1600 nits with a sustained brightness of 1000 nits.
Meaning you can set your brightness at 50% and it still will be brighter than the Air at 100% brightness.
All of this may seem pointless, but it means the 14" has dramatically better battery life.
Processor speed at least 3x the Air with 2-3x the battery life.
That's not even mentioning the ProMotion display.
Nothing wrong with the Air, it's the best budget laptop on the market hands down, but let's not go overboard and act like the Air is better than the 14"
macbook air has bettery battery life even at 50wh vs 70wh
https://www.apple.com/mac/compare...ook-Pro-14
Up to 15 hours wireless web
Up to 11 hours wireless web
Up to 18 hours Apple TV app movie playback
Up to 17 hours Apple TV app movie playback
For those that are looking to keep a laptop more than 1 year - not so much.
The display is on a whole other level.
Brightness on the Air is about 300-350 nits - meaning at 50% brightness (what battery tests are based on) the screen will be at 150 nitts.
Macbook 14" has a max brightness of 1600 nits with a sustained brightness of 1000 nits.
Meaning you can set your brightness at 50% and it still will be brighter than the Air at 100% brightness.
All of this may seem pointless, but it means the 14" has dramatically better battery life.
Processor speed at least 3x the Air with 2-3x the battery life.
That's not even mentioning the ProMotion display.
Nothing wrong with the Air, it's the best budget laptop on the market hands down, but let's not go overboard and act like the Air is better than the 14"
Of course, the real battery results will only be known once the reviews are in, but Apple usually does not undersell their high end products' batteries and your estimations seem to be out of nowhere. Also, how much faster the 8-core M1 pro is compared to M1 Air is unknown.
Of course, the real battery results will only be known once the reviews are in, but Apple usually does not undersell their high end products' batteries and your estimations seem to be out of nowhere. Also, how much faster the 8-core M1 pro is compared to M1 Air is unknown.
The screen brightness is 4x as bright as the M1 Air in the 14"
It's right there in black and white.
Battery tests mean nothing unless you know what the brightness level is at.
That's why many Windows PC and even Macs advertise high battery life - but many people, esp those working under fluorescent office lights have their brightness set at 100%
Setting your brightness at 100% on the Macbook Air nets you 300-350 nits
Setting your brightness at 50% on the 14" Macbook Pro nets you 500-600 nits
That combined with the ProMotion display gives you a higher battery life.
But please tell me more about how screen brightness doesnt affect battery life lol
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For school work and coding its honestly enough, If you NEED more then buy more.
Most people I know dont actually need more than 256 GB. They just think they need more.
I have 4TB NVMe SSD in my gaming desktop, but thats because I need the space for all my games. I have a 256 GB macbook because I literally dont need more than that in my macbook, as I dont use it for games.
70GB is taken up by OS and swap. A couple VM's take up an extra 100GB. A couple 4K movies takes up 20-50GB a piece. Forget about downloading a season of a TV series. I have a few tech courses download which take up another 30-40GB. None of these are outrageous things only top of the line specced machines should be able to do. The only limiting factor for these is SSD. RAM will become an issue in 2 years for people who buy 8GB RAM laptops today.
This isn't 2014 where TV's and monitors are 1080p. Also, solid state prices are pennies on the dollar. It made sense to use less storage when SSD's were introduced because they were expensive. In 2012, Apple used a 500GB HDD in the MBP. Today's SSD prices are equivalent to HDD prices of 2012. What really is outrageous is the fact that the price difference between a high-end 256GB SSD and a 512GB of the same model is about $15, but Apple wants consumers to pay $200.
We get it, your needs could be met with a Chromebook or an old Lenovo with linux and libreoffice and VScode. However, Apple is contributing to harming the environment by selling baseline laptops which are on the edge of obsolescence.
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Framework might fold in a year or two. Who knows? Why would I spend money to take a chance? No track record on laptop quality/warranty/future support.
I'll take my chances on an Apple/Dell/Sony/HP/etc since they been around a while and knowing they CAN cover warranty and build a somewhat decent laptop.