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Costco Members: Yamaha TSR-700 7.1-Channel Network A/V Receiver
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Shipping was to Salt Lake City, Utah. From Buffalo it took about six days out. The unit was repaired and sent back to me the same day it was delivered. United Radio asked me a few questions before doing the repair, but it was a quick and painless process. It was another six days shipping to get back to me. Everything worked/works great with my XSX. Zero issues on my end with it plugged into my 7.1 system and my Sony X900H. I mean, the sound might take a few seconds to kick in when I start up my XSX from sleep, but that's about the only glitch I've noticed (if it even is one... it's so minor I don't care).
I don't know that there's a way to tell from the serial number if it has been fixed already, but I do know that when you load it up, if you use the display to show the firmware version, if there is a * by it, the repair has been done. United Radio did flash the latest firmware on it before sending back. I had no settings to backup (still fresh from factory), but they would have backed up and restored settings, too, if needed.
It was about as smooth as you could hope, and considering I was about as far away from Utah as you could get during the holiday rush, shipping time was more than reasonable. If you're closer you'll probably get it turned around even quicker, I imagine.
I'm not an audiophile. I replaced an older Yamaha system I had that couldn't do 4K and it works pretty much the same. I don't need to tweak things, it just needs to work, and it does for me. I hear the app is far more useful in setting things up than the on screen menus (which are slow and clunky), but I haven't bothered syncing my unit to my network, because if I ever need to update the firmware, I'll just use a USB.
I also only paid $320 for it in 2020 (which included a 5% non-member fee). I'd do it again for sure, because the price was more than worth it. Are there better units? Probably. But for the price I got it at and for my use case, I think it's worth it. I'd probably find it worth it at $440, too, but again, there may be "better" units at that price now, I don't know.
Last note: if you do need to ship it in for the repair, take everything out (e.g., remote). Make sure to take off the wireless antenna, too. I didn't realize they came off, so they asked me about them and they took them off and shipped it back. I'm not sure why they thought I might not want them back, but.. whatever. They came back and all is well.
The PS5 currently tops out at 32gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:2:2
The Xbox Series X tops out at 40gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:4:4
The Yamaha will not be able to handle the top bandwidth of these new consoles, each console will however downsample the chroma to 4:2:0 at 4k/120 HDR, so you will get 4k/120 in HDR with this box. Downsampling chroma is generally unnoticeable, but where it does make a difference is in background detail, where the downsampled video will have more blur and look softer. So if you have a fancy OLED and just bought a new console and want the best picture quality available, this receiver will be a weak link and you'll be getting a (slightly) worse picture than what the new systems are capable of outputting. Example of chroma subsampling from wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedi
To get the best picture you should at least be looking for a 40gbps receiver.
You want to look at wattage at 8 ohms.
It is pathetic 67W at 8 ohms for that Sony STR-DH790.
Beware of manufacturers advertising wattage values at 6 ohms.
Run when you see that - it's a trap!
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- The PS5 currently tops out at 32gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:2:2
- The Xbox Series X tops out at 40gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:4:4
The Yamaha will not be able to handle the top bandwidth of these new consoles, each console will however downsample the chroma to 4:2:0 at 4k/120 HDR, so you will get 4k/120 in HDR with this box. Downsampling chroma is generally unnoticeable, but where it does make a difference is in background detail, where the downsampled video will have more blur and look softer. So if you have a fancy OLED and just bought a new console and want the best picture quality available, this receiver will be a weak link and you'll be getting a (slightly) worse picture than what the new systems are capable of outputting. Example of chroma subsampling from wikipedia: https://upload.wikimediTo get the best picture you should at least be looking for a 40gbps receiver.
The one exception is the hideously complex remote control for them, but from what I've seen, that's kind of true of AVRs in general. Luckily, I only occasionally need to use it, and usually just to switch between music and movie profiles, which is trivial.
Plus, Costco has one of the most flexible return policies you'll find. Find out it's not an updated board, or just don't like it? Return it. Even if that weren't the case, Yamaha is standing behind the product and will fix it. Between those 2 companies, I wouldn't worry much.
• Costco Onkyo TX-NR6050 is a rebadged TX-NR6100, which is an $800 receiver. In other words, it costs 60% more than what Costco sells it as TX-NR6050.
I do see 2 subwoofer outputs on the tsr-700 product image though. Does anyone know if it support 2 subs or not? I run two subs, so this is an important distinction for me.
Shipping was to Salt Lake City, Utah. From Buffalo it took about six days out. The unit was repaired and sent back to me the same day it was delivered. United Radio asked me a few questions before doing the repair, but it was a quick and painless process. It was another six days shipping to get back to me. Everything worked/works great with my XSX. Zero issues on my end with it plugged into my 7.1 system and my Sony X900H. I mean, the sound might take a few seconds to kick in when I start up my XSX from sleep, but that's about the only glitch I've noticed (if it even is one... it's so minor I don't care).
I don't know that there's a way to tell from the serial number if it has been fixed already, but I do know that when you load it up, if you use the display to show the firmware version, if there is a * by it, the repair has been done. United Radio did flash the latest firmware on it before sending back. I had no settings to backup (still fresh from factory), but they would have backed up and restored settings, too, if needed.
It was about as smooth as you could hope, and considering I was about as far away from Utah as you could get during the holiday rush, shipping time was more than reasonable. If you're closer you'll probably get it turned around even quicker, I imagine.
I'm not an audiophile. I replaced an older Yamaha system I had that couldn't do 4K and it works pretty much the same. I don't need to tweak things, it just needs to work, and it does for me. I hear the app is far more useful in setting things up than the on screen menus (which are slow and clunky), but I haven't bothered syncing my unit to my network, because if I ever need to update the firmware, I'll just use a USB.
I also only paid $320 for it in 2020 (which included a 5% non-member fee). I'd do it again for sure, because the price was more than worth it. Are there better units? Probably. But for the price I got it at and for my use case, I think it's worth it. I'd probably find it worth it at $440, too, but again, there may be "better" units at that price now, I don't know.
Last note: if you do need to ship it in for the repair, take everything out (e.g., remote). Make sure to take off the wireless antenna, too. I didn't realize they came off, so they asked me about them and they took them off and shipped it back. I'm not sure why they thought I might not want them back, but.. whatever. They came back and all is well.
I do see 2 subwoofer outputs on the tsr-700 product image though. Does anyone know if it support 2 subs or not? I run two subs, so this is an important distinction for me.
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• Costco Onkyo TX-NR6050 is a rebadged TX-NR6100, which is an $800 receiver. In other words, it costs 60% more than what Costco sells it as TX-NR6050.
However the TX-NR6100, TSR-700, & RX-V6A are 100W but the TX-NR6050 is only 90W.
Is it one of those differences where you have to listen to them back to back to notice? Probably.
CNET thinks the Yamaha sounds better than the NR6100: https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-en...-receiver/
Both Yamahas have the 24Gbps HDMI limitation which could affect gaming. That's the only reason I could justify paying $60 more for worse sound. I've tried future proofing with my current Yamaha but now that I'm buying my first 4K TV I've learned it can't passthrough 4K like it was supposed to. I'm sure it'll be the similar with 40Gbps and 8K 60Hz.
Is there a way to tell which is 90 W and which 100 W - when comparing Costco's $500 Onkyo TX-NR6050 to $800 Onkyo TX-NR6100? I don't think so. So 10 watts may be just an arbitrary distinction for marketing purposes because there is a $300 premium for TX-NR6100, a whopping 60% price jump.
- The PS5 currently tops out at 32gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:2:2
- The Xbox Series X tops out at 40gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:4:4
The Yamaha will not be able to handle the top bandwidth of these new consoles...So if you have a fancy OLED and just bought a new console and want the best picture quality available, this receiver will be a weak link and you'll be getting a (slightly) worse picture than what the new systems are capable of outputting.To get the best picture you should at least be looking for a 40gbps receiver.
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I do see 2 subwoofer outputs on the tsr-700 product image though. Does anyone know if it support 2 subs or not? I run two subs, so this is an important distinction for me.
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