expired Posted by c627627 • Jan 25, 2022
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expired Posted by c627627 • Jan 25, 2022
Jan 25, 2022 9:39 PM
Costco Members: Yamaha TSR-700 7.1-Channel Network A/V Receiver
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Shipping was to Salt Lake City, Utah. From Buffalo it took about six days out. The unit was repaired and sent back to me the same day it was delivered. United Radio asked me a few questions before doing the repair, but it was a quick and painless process. It was another six days shipping to get back to me. Everything worked/works great with my XSX. Zero issues on my end with it plugged into my 7.1 system and my Sony X900H. I mean, the sound might take a few seconds to kick in when I start up my XSX from sleep, but that's about the only glitch I've noticed (if it even is one... it's so minor I don't care).
I don't know that there's a way to tell from the serial number if it has been fixed already, but I do know that when you load it up, if you use the display to show the firmware version, if there is a * by it, the repair has been done. United Radio did flash the latest firmware on it before sending back. I had no settings to backup (still fresh from factory), but they would have backed up and restored settings, too, if needed.
It was about as smooth as you could hope, and considering I was about as far away from Utah as you could get during the holiday rush, shipping time was more than reasonable. If you're closer you'll probably get it turned around even quicker, I imagine.
I'm not an audiophile. I replaced an older Yamaha system I had that couldn't do 4K and it works pretty much the same. I don't need to tweak things, it just needs to work, and it does for me. I hear the app is far more useful in setting things up than the on screen menus (which are slow and clunky), but I haven't bothered syncing my unit to my network, because if I ever need to update the firmware, I'll just use a USB.
I also only paid $320 for it in 2020 (which included a 5% non-member fee). I'd do it again for sure, because the price was more than worth it. Are there better units? Probably. But for the price I got it at and for my use case, I think it's worth it. I'd probably find it worth it at $440, too, but again, there may be "better" units at that price now, I don't know.
Last note: if you do need to ship it in for the repair, take everything out (e.g., remote). Make sure to take off the wireless antenna, too. I didn't realize they came off, so they asked me about them and they took them off and shipped it back. I'm not sure why they thought I might not want them back, but.. whatever. They came back and all is well.
The PS5 currently tops out at 32gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:2:2
The Xbox Series X tops out at 40gbps when displaying 4k/120 HDR 4:4:4
The Yamaha will not be able to handle the top bandwidth of these new consoles, each console will however downsample the chroma to 4:2:0 at 4k/120 HDR, so you will get 4k/120 in HDR with this box. Downsampling chroma is generally unnoticeable, but where it does make a difference is in background detail, where the downsampled video will have more blur and look softer. So if you have a fancy OLED and just bought a new console and want the best picture quality available, this receiver will be a weak link and you'll be getting a (slightly) worse picture than what the new systems are capable of outputting. Example of chroma subsampling from wikipedia: https://upload.wikimedi
To get the best picture you should at least be looking for a 40gbps receiver.
You want to look at wattage at 8 ohms.
It is pathetic 67W at 8 ohms for that Sony STR-DH790.
Beware of manufacturers advertising wattage values at 6 ohms.
Run when you see that - it's a trap!
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Onkyo board does full 40 gbps.
Yamaha is capped at 24 gbps and that's if you get a Yamaha with fixed HDMI 2.1 board.
If you can get the Onkyo TX-NR6050 go with it, but that Onkyo sells out quickly every time it comes back in stock.
My main home theater system has the TV in in large cabinet and it would be a royal PITA to run all the sources directly to the TV
Many times in a dedicated media room owner's have their source components and AVR across the room from the display
Its much easier to run those sources to the prepro and then one cable to the TV
What would you need more than one?
Leave the video to the dedicated video devices and feed the audio via eARC to the dedicated audio devices. As a bonus you don't have to deal with the horrendous receiver video menus 😉
Now, I understand there are some issues with having to switch video modes. And this is what my initial point was about. I wish eARC had caught on more and was better developed, to eliminate the rough integration edges you currently have to deal with sometimes — things not directly related to eARC, but things you have to do when using eARC need to be thought of more and better developed.
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I streamed uncompressed music through two Google Chromecast Audios and connect one speaker to the Onkyo and another identical speaker to [an older] Yamaha.
At fist I thought Onkyo sounded crisper - meaning more free of distortion and clearly distinguishable, but then I thought you can't really go wrong with Yamaha for music either..
I would look at other things for advantages. You are not a gamer, so maybe look at reports of problems from long-time posters on audio forums and on here.
Maybe Yamaha has more issues? But Onkyo is newer, so it's a bit too early to tell.
I decided to pay the $60 premium for Onkyo over long-term option of perfect gaming [I don't do games yet, but now I have the option] and reliability.
In years past, it was Onkyo who f*d up with their faulty hardware choices and Yamaha was more reliable.
But today, it is Onkyo who avoided the HDMI 2.1 disaster and it was Yamaha who messed up, and not just with HDMI it seems based on reading these threads.
I think Yamaha will get their act together next year, this time round Onkyo won.
Onkyo board does full 40 gbps.
Yamaha is capped at 24 gbps and that's if you get a Yamaha with fixed HDMI 2.1 board.
If you can get the Onkyo TX-NR6050 go with it, but that Onkyo sells out quickly every time it comes back in stock.
What do you think of reliability between the two? Also, sound quality.
Between these two specific models, Yamaha may be less reliable.
Sound quality may be on par, meaning similar, this may be subjective and depend on types of music and other factors.
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Which should mean it has been board swapped
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