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12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Drive (Mfr. Recertified)

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ServerPartDeals has 12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Disk Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM001G) on sale for $104.99. Shipping is free.

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Specs:
  • Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
  • CMR recording
  • Helium sealed-drive design
  • Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
  • Supports hot-plugging
  • 256MB cache
  • 2.5 Million hours MTBF
  • 7.2K RPM

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    • Manufacturer Recertified : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty
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ServerPartDeals has 12TB Seagate Exos X16 3.5" 7200RPM SATA Internal Hard Disk Drive (Manufacturer Recertified, ST12000NM001G) on sale for $104.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Weltweit for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Exos X16 - 12TB Enterprise HDD
  • CMR recording
  • Helium sealed-drive design
  • Hyperscale SATA model tuned for large data transfers and low latency
  • Supports hot-plugging
  • 256MB cache
  • 2.5 Million hours MTBF
  • 7.2K RPM

Editor's Notes

Written by citan359 | Staff
  • About this product:
    • Manufacturer Recertified : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty
  • About this store:
    • You can view ServerPartDeals's Return Policy here.
  • Additional Note:
    • Please refer to the Forum Thread for additional discussion regarding this deal.

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I bought a couple drives from them recently, including this 12TB Seagate Exos X16. The packaging was among the best I've ever seen. The HD was in a sealed anti-static bag, surrounded by bubble wrap, in a box, surrounded by bubble wrap, in another box. The drive was physically immaculate, no dust, scratches, or scuffs. The manufacture date was August 2020. I'm not sure if that's when it was originally manufactured or recertified. After the SMART data had been reset, it had been run just enough to perform one full read scan (which takes close to a day). For those wanting to test the drive, I recommend HDDScan (for Windows). CrystalDiskInfo does not run any diagnostics itself. It merely displays the SMART info from the drive.

The drive works but I have some concerns, as it sometimes seems to take a few tries to calibrate when powering up. The other Exos (an X18) always gets it right on the first try. The drive performs well, with sequential reads/writes around 250MB/s peak. Random 4K reads are about 0.8MB/s, not exactly spectacular. On the other hand, Random 4K writes are over 13MB/s, faster than any other HD I've seen. As far as noise, it seems about the same as the WD/HGST helium drives.

Mine came with outdated firmware. You can get the update from Seagate's site by putting in your serial number. The download takes forever because it's close to dial-up speeds. It comes with a cross-platform command-line utility. I booted to a live Linux session to do the update. Instructions are included. Be careful, the commands are case-sensitive.

This drive has TLER (Time-Limited Error Recovery) which is usually intended for RAID setups. I think it's probably fine to leave this enabled, even when used on its own. The default timer appears to be 10 seconds. If the drive can't sort things out in that period, I doubt more time is going to make much of a difference. You can disable (or adjust) it with smartmontools (also included with GSmartControl). However, the setting must be reapplied after every power cycle. Here is the command:

smartctl -l scterc,0,0 /dev/sdX (Replace sdX with the designation of your drive. Also, this IS case-sensitive.)

This drive does not support conventional APM (Advanced Power Management). However, it does have power-saving features. It has multiple modes, including one that parks the heads and another that reduces the spindle speed. These are enabled by default and too aggressive for my tastes. You can use the SeaChest utility to adjust or disable these. Here are the commands for the Windows version:

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -s

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --showEPCSettings

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --EPCfeature disable

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature info

SeaChest_PowerControl_x64_windows -d PDx --powerBalanceFeature disable

Use the first command to determine the "handle" of your drive. For the subsequent commands, replace the "PDx" with your drive's handle. The second and forth commands display the current status of those features. The third and fifth commands disable the respective features. These settings DO appear to persist through power cycles.

For anyone wondering, the Exos X18 I got from them had a manufacture date less than six months ago. It had 0 power-on hours and obviously had NOT been tested after the SMART data was reset. Its firmware is up to date and I have not noticed any issue with it yet.
In a home scenario, basically none.
x18 is slightly faster, but also uses slightly more power. In a home setting in a NAS, the speed benefit won't be realized in any real world situation.

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I bought a 14tb from these guys a few weeks ago. Working awesome so far!!
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Quote from TheRedEyeBandit :
I bought a 14tb from these guys a few weeks ago. Working awesome so far!!
I got 2 12 tbs @ 114.99 then and a 14 later. All checked out all tests perfect and have been working well since.

When I dealt with a lots Dell servers a few years ago, usually all drive replacements under warranty were refurbished.
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Looks like the X18's are $5 more
https://serverpartdeals.com/produ...hard-drive
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Quote from TheRedEyeBandit :
I bought a 14tb from these guys a few weeks ago. Working awesome so far!!
I did as well, got two for $260...and no tax charged (saved 10.3%)
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I also bought the Seagate Exos 12TB X18 from them a few weeks ago and installed in a Synology DS220+. Working great!
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i've been following but haven't bought any from them. waiting for the prices to drop back down a bit more..
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Quote from the12pac :
Looks like the X18's are $5 more
https://serverpartdeals.com/produ...hard-drive [serverpartdeals.com]
Whats the benefit over the x16?

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Quote from camell513 :
Whats the benefit over the x16?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...are_button
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Ok, I'm biting, need a large drive to do some comparisons of huge chunks of data.

Before I commit to putting this in my qnap nas, what do you recommend running in terms of qc checking? Any overnight stress testing etc to give you the warm & fuzzies before trusting it?
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Quote from camell513 :
Whats the benefit over the x16?
In a home scenario, basically none.
x18 is slightly faster, but also uses slightly more power. In a home setting in a NAS, the speed benefit won't be realized in any real world situation.
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I brought this drive and I've had a quirk where when I loaded a game from the drive, the computer would freeze. I rebooted it and for about a week I had no issues. Even though Seagate re-zeroed the number of hours used and bootup times, there is some wear into these drives....
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Quote from Weltweit :
I got 2 12 tbs @ 114.99 then and a 14 later. All checked out all tests perfect and have been working well since.

When I dealt with a lots Dell servers a few years ago, usually all drive replacements under warranty were refurbished.
A long time ago Dell sent out parts marked "new" and "refurbished" for repairs. But they found that people in the know would reject the parts marked refurbished and wanted parts marked new. So they started marking every replacement part as refurbished. I think most if not all the replacement hard drives from Dell are actually new.
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Anyone worried about them being "Manufacturer Recertified" ?

I remember that being an issue in the past.
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Quote from Chince :
Anyone worried about them being "Manufacturer Recertified" ?

I remember that being an issue in the past.
As your sole copy of data you are not prepared to lose? Absolutely, run away.

These have a good place as a secondary backup or if the data is easily replacible
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I got an 18tb x18 last week and it passed a week long burn in. Currently backing up 10tb of data from my other NAS. If it wants to fail prematurely, I would hope it would have taken the opportunity already

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