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forum thread Posted by VladStar • Jan 27, 2023
forum thread Posted by VladStar • Jan 27, 2023

UltraPro (Jasco) Z-Wave Smart Rocker Light Dimmer (2-Pack, 54897) $48.14 and more

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** UltraPro series is made by Jasco, the same as GE Enbrighten

UltraPro Z-Wave Smart Rocker Light Dimmer with QuickFit and SimpleWire, 3-Way Ready, Works with Alexa, Google Assistant, ZWave Hub Required, Repeater/Range Extender, White Paddle Only, 2-Pack, 54897 - $48.14 ($24.07 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MDF5MSB -Expired, now $67.99


* See also:
UltraPro Add-On Switch QuickFit and SimpleWire, In-Wall White Rocker Paddle Only, Z-Wave ZigBee Wireless Smart Lighting Controls, NOT A STANDALONE Switch, 2 Pack, 54905 - $27.97 ($13.99 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MDFDS4W
--- Details ---

- Operation Mode: ON-OFF-ON
- Current Rating: 15 Amps
- Operating Voltage: 120 Volts
- Contact Type: Normally Open
- Connector Type: Clamp

--- About this item ---

- LIGHT FLICKERING? – The 52327 Direct Lighting Bypass (ASIN: B08ZJQV7W2) is designed for Jasco, Enbrighten, UltraPro, GE-branded and Honeywell Z-Wave smart dimmers but may improve performance of other Z-Wave or Zigbee dimmers to prevent light flickering.
- Revolutionary, patent-pending design – QuickFit and SimpleWire technologies offer groundbreaking home automation features. Unique advancements make the smart controls easier to install and more reliable than ever.
- QuickFit – Improved components reduced the housing depth by up to 20% compared to previous Z-Wave models and eliminated the need for heat tabs. QuickFit enhancements are the ideal smart solution for older-style switch boxes, multi-gang configurations or any other application with limited space.
- SimpleWire – Auto-detecting line/load terminals support fast installation by identifying line and load wires and configuring the dimmer accordingly. Dual ground ports, which are offset to avoid switch box mounting screws, support daisy-chaining in multi-switch setups.
- Voice control – Enjoy the convenience of voice control with Google Assistant or Amazon Alexa when connected through a compatible Z-Wave hub.
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** UltraPro series is made by Jasco, the same as GE Enbrighten

UltraPro Z-Wave Smart Rocker Light Dimmer with QuickFit and SimpleWire, 3-Way Ready, Works with Alexa, Google Assistant, ZWave Hub Required, Repeater/Range Extender, White Paddle Only, 2-Pack, 54897 - $48.14 ($24.07 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MDF5MSB -Expired, now $67.99


* See also:
UltraPro Add-On Switch QuickFit and SimpleWire, In-Wall White Rocker Paddle Only, Z-Wave ZigBee Wireless Smart Lighting Controls, NOT A STANDALONE Switch, 2 Pack, 54905 - $27.97 ($13.99 each)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B08MDFDS4W
--- Details ---

- Operation Mode: ON-OFF-ON
- Current Rating: 15 Amps
- Operating Voltage: 120 Volts
- Contact Type: Normally Open
- Connector Type: Clamp

--- About this item ---

- LIGHT FLICKERING? – The 52327 Direct Lighting Bypass (ASIN: B08ZJQV7W2) is designed for Jasco, Enbrighten, UltraPro, GE-branded and Honeywell Z-Wave smart dimmers but may improve performance of other Z-Wave or Zigbee dimmers to prevent light flickering.
- Revolutionary, patent-pending design – QuickFit and SimpleWire technologies offer groundbreaking home automation features. Unique advancements make the smart controls easier to install and more reliable than ever.
- QuickFit – Improved components reduced the housing depth by up to 20% compared to previous Z-Wave models and eliminated the need for heat tabs. QuickFit enhancements are the ideal smart solution for older-style switch boxes, multi-gang configurations or any other application with limited space.
- SimpleWire – Auto-detecting line/load terminals support fast installation by identifying line and load wires and configuring the dimmer accordingly. Dual ground ports, which are offset to avoid switch box mounting screws, support daisy-chaining in multi-switch setups.
- Voice control – Enjoy the convenience of voice control with Google Assistant or Amazon Alexa when connected through a compatible Z-Wave hub.
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almost 2 years ago
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dealhunter85
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Quote from coachclass :
Matter is a good development, and I hope it gets popular. But there's no reason to stop buying z-wave or zigbee. This is less of an issue with zwave vs matter and more an issue with SmartThings not being a good platform. People who need to worry about being "left behind" are the folks using cloud based devices like SmartThings. You can't be "left behind" with zwave, it's a completely local protocol. If it works today, it'll keep working tomorrow. Unlike SmartThings.

SmartThings as a company has their own business interests that don't necessarily align with home automation users. Don't let SmartThings dictate what your home automation architecture should be. It makes more sense to chuck the SmartThings gateway and replace it something better and more local, than to start replacing individual devices.
Alexa hubs = no zwave
Google Nest Hubs (Android) = no zwave
Apple HomeKit (Apple TV and other Apple Hubs) = no zwave

So all the big everyday "consumer" devices do not support it.

I would pick zwave over the others but not anymore. I have been on the "wrong" side of formats in the past, and in the end it isn't awesome.

Zigbee is what "won" out here. They are part of the matter alliance and what others are supporting.
Just my opinion.

Edit - SmartThings is actually moving away from cloud bases, and maybe already has. Lost a lot of good community builds due to that.
Some info here:
https://support.smartthings.com/h...9624925204
Last edited by dealhunter85 January 27, 2023 at 05:00 PM.
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inzy
almost 2 years ago
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Quote from kreene1987 :
If you want a good switch for 2 years, go with these. You'll be replacing them in 24 months because they die due to inferior internal components. Well documented. Buyer beware.
This is so true. I have replaced a capacitor in every switch I own and they have never failed again.
See the YouTube video if anyone is interested in repairing their broken switches.

https://youtu.be/MsDTi53qq4Q
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coachclass
almost 2 years ago
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Quote from dealhunter85 :
Alexa hubs = no zwave
Google Nest Hubs (Android) = no zwave
Apple HomeKit (Apple TV and other Apple Hubs) = no zwave

So all the big everyday "consumer" devices do not support it.

I would pick zwave over the others but not anymore. I have been on the "wrong" side of formats in the past, and in the end it isn't awesome.

Just my opinion.

Edit - SmartThings is actually moving away from cloud bases, and maybe already has. Lost a lot of good community builds due to that.
The big everyday consumer gateways from Apple, Google, Alexa, and SmartThings (Samsung) are all cloud based. They're not popular because they have the best gateways. They're popular because they dominate the platform space, and then added home automation gateways after the fact. Their roadmap for protocol support isn't going to be a good experience.
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elgringoguapo
almost 2 years ago
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These do not last. I repeat, they will give out after a few years. Happened to all of mine, one by one after about 3 years.
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dealhunter85
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Quote from coachclass :
The big everyday consumer gateways from Apple, Google, Alexa, and SmartThings (Samsung) are all cloud based. They're not popular because they have the best gateways. They're popular because they dominate the platform space, and then added home automation gateways after the fact. Their roadmap for protocol support isn't going to be a good experience.
But realistically, it's good enough for 98% of people. (Made up number, but really the extreme automation stuff is still very niche)

Alexa and run automations that the majority would be more than fine with, Google as well.

Anyway, I had HD-DVD, Betamax, and other stuff that I felt was better quality but was left behind. Zwave feels like the same now.
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almost 2 years ago
elgringoguapo
almost 2 years ago
559 Posts
Quote from daqqad :
I agree that Jasco switches are trash, but Zooz is barely better. I have a bunch of their switches and they all have issues with 2 of them completely dying within 2 years.

Edit:
Not to have a completely useless post, the company I recommend is Inovelli. Leaps and bounds better than anything Zooz makes.
Inovelli switches are legit! Super powerful.
almost 2 years ago
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kaimanson
almost 2 years ago
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Quote from donftw :
Had really bad experiences with my z wave plus ge/jasco light switches. Bought a bunch from Lowes when they went on sale and slowly they've all started to die.
Check, I had one die on me last year, and I found out that GE had extended the warranty period. I called them and they sent me a replacement.

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luniz97
almost 2 years ago
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Quote from HaoC5690 :
GE zwave switches suck! I spent hundreds of dollars on them, only one stayed alive. For the past years, every a few months, I needed to replace a dead one with the other brand, like ZooZ
Quote from psyctto :
wouldn't touch anything made by Jasco ever again... absolute 100% garbage.
just get Zooz, fully featured hardware and their hardware in the last many years has been pretty fantastic.
Zooz switches feel so cheap to click. I've had ge Jasco switches in two of my houses, 15 in one house for last 11 years no issues and 20 in my current house for 5 years no issues.
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Deal-R-Dash
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Do not buy any of the used GE/Jasco switches that are being sold from Amazon Warehouse Deals. I bought a bunch thinking I was getting a good deal and 3/4 of them were returns that were the first generation that had all of the failures. I'm not sure I blame people for using Amazon to essentially do a warranty swap-out but Amazon does not check returns and will gladly sell you a return that does not work and/or that isn't what it is supposed to be. Just warning others as I wasted so much time that I returned any that were not the right version.
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psyctto
almost 2 years ago
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Quote from coachclass :
How long have people been using Zooz? Jasco has been around for a long time, so it might just be survior/victim bias if Jasco seems problematic at the end of a couple of years.

I've had GE/Jasco dimmers for 4 years and have not had issues.
no idea when either company put out their first zwave switches, some quick searches show both had certified products out in the market around 2015... which is around when i started getting zwave switches for my outside lights. i started with GE/Jasco stuff because they readily available at Lowes, and on sale regularly. when they put out the ZWave Plus line, i bought them as well. all but one of them has failed on me, in that time they've all needed hard power cycling at one point or another and reconnection in a few cases. haven't had a single Zooz product fail on me, i've replaced over the years to increase repeater range and add features... but they've been rock solid.
i used to buy a bit of Aeotec hardware back then too, mostly sensors or plug in switches... but they've been really hit and miss. some stand the test of time, others not so much. for repeaters (i use plug in switches outdoors to get more range), the Aeotec hardware was always fantastic. Zooz, until recently, always had issues with being used as repeaters... not sure what they were doing wrong, but they're since fixed that in their last few gens. GE/Jasco, always hot garbage as repeaters. i track my mesh network, so i can see where things hop and what paths they take... the GE/Jasco hardware was rarely used.
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UniqueShoe659
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My experience is a mix of those posted here. I have about 40 of them operating across multiple properties over the past 3-5 years. I would say I have experienced about a 20-30% failure rate on them. Some of them have lasted a full 5 years. Some have died within 1 to 2 years.