Hyundai is offering the
2023 Hyundai IONIQ 5 Electric Vehicle from
$41,450 with
24, 36 or 48-Month Financing starting as low as
0.99% APR and
$0 Down Payment for very well-qualified buyers when purchased between 6/14/2023 through 7/5/2023.
Thanks to community member
fireserphant for sharing this deal.
- Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
Limited-Time Special Financing Options:
- 0.99% APR (up to 36 months) at $28 per $1,000 financed for qualified buyers.
- 0.99% APR (up to 48 months) at $21 per $1,000 financed for qualified buyers.
- Must be financed through Hyundai Motor Finance (HMF). Tax, title and license extra.
- See your participating Hyundai dealer (dealership locator) for more details.
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On a related note, the NHTSA just opened an investigation into the Ioniq5 due to reports that some Ioniqs are losing power while being driven. Not a full recall as of yet but enough complaints, around 30, to warrant a closer look. https://www.caranddrive
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I said roughly 2/3rds of households live in single family homes where they can charge at home.
Because they do.
EV supply isn't sufficient to even sell to that market, and won't be for years yet- let alone the minority who are unable to charge at home.
Hence why I specifically said (contrary to the straw man you keep trying to build) that you CAN own an EV without home charging (especially if you don't drive much) but that the current market isn't really designed for that....The reason superchargers are somewhat spread out is they're intended for road trips- not daily/local charging... and that by the time the supply of EVs gets big enough it's an issue such people will be able to charge at home fairly easily as more apartment complexes and workplaces adapt to the market and add charging locally.
This has been covered numerous times in this (and other) EV threads already.
(including the outliers on both sides- like that one dude in CT or someplace that claims he's paying like 50 cents a kwh but gas is practically free or somesuch.... versus say my situation where I was with a local electric co-op and my overnight rates let me add 300 miles of range to my EV for $2 while a single gallon of gas was $2.50-3.50 the whole time)
One was a home run...one of the great all-time investments, especially for fixed income investors. The other got progressively lower over the next 40 years, finally yielding under 1%.
Rates will go down one day (who knows when), and those buying longer dated bonds will be the happy ones.
Of course, buying Coke and Phillip Morris yielding 11% (at the time) were the real winners...too bad we don't have a time masheen!
I think car makers are taking us for a ride because they see too many are willing to get talked into a $40k car vs a $20k car. Pandemic pressure is there sure, but even that is overblown. My old econobox was 16yo when the pandemic hit. I was already pushing it's age and was ready for something new. A few repairs kept it running well enough to avoid contributing to the crazy pandemic price rush. Last year the AC went out too, but again, not a necessity. It's 20yo and still serves it's purpose just fine. Don't get talked into spend you don't need. Please really think twice if that spend is a loan/debt. You'd be amazed the difference between what you want vs need when you stop listening to commercials, sales reps, fan bois, etc.
Slickest deal is sometimes no deal at all. Keeps the most money in your pocket or account making you more $$$.
Car purchase is the biggest depreciating purchase in your life. And most purchase a car 6-7 times an average over their lifetimes. Imagine a buying a car at 50k which just takes one around the town (which every car would, irrespective of the price) and then 10 years later that car is only 5k worth. In those 10 years someone spends 1200 per year on insurance, 500 per year on maintenance and whatever on repairs and gas in general. The total cost of ownership of car is about 60k plus gas cost based on the amount of driving. That is 6k per year just to own the vehicle (or $500 per month).
I said roughly 2/3rds of households live in single family homes where they can charge at home.
Because they do.
EV supply isn't sufficient to even sell to that market, and won't be for years yet- let alone the minority who are unable to charge at home.
I agree it's not "essential" but it makes the ownership experience vastly better and easier.
Hence why I specifically said (contrary to the straw man you keep trying to build) that you CAN own an EV without home charging (especially if you don't drive much) but that the current market isn't really designed for that....The reason superchargers are somewhat spread out is they're intended for road trips- not daily/local charging... and that by the time the supply of EVs gets big enough it's an issue such people will be able to charge at home fairly easily as more apartment complexes and workplaces adapt to the market and add charging locally.
Vastly cleaner.
This has been covered numerous times in this (and other) EV threads already.
Again- vastly cheaper using average electric and gasoline rates combined with average MPGe and MPG of EVs and gas cars. Also already covered in depth many times.
(including the outliers on both sides- like that one dude in CT or someplace that claims he's paying like 50 cents a kwh but gas is practically free or somesuch.... versus say my situation where I was with a local electric co-op and my overnight rates let me add 300 miles of range to my EV for $2 while a single gallon of gas was $2.50-3.50 the whole time)
Most others have adopted EV infrastructure at great scale
The market has gone beyond the point you are highlighting. That was the case 5 yrs back and also in stone age states.
Most others have adopted EV infrastructure at great scale
....what?
The original post that spawned this was a complaint local charging wasn't nearly good enough- and lamenting the fact the nearest supercharger was in the next town.
I simply pointed out the factual reasons for that....and you keep trying to make up some other argument nobody is having by putting words in their mouth they never said.
The model 3 is tested and should give as much trouble-free driving as any modern car. The quality control issues of Teslas are mostly behind them, but you can't avoid some cost-cutting measures like thin windshields, cheap plastics, and lack of NVH testing.
The Hyundai is solidly built, but they are experiencing growing pains with the powertrain, including a current investigation about one of the control units failing due to incorrect voltage (google "Ioniq 5 ICCU failure").
The biggest advantage the Model 3 has is the tax credit, if you're eligible. You get more car for the money with the Tesla. If you can accept all of the baggage that comes with owning a Tesla (which I'm intentionally leaving ambiguous), then I'd say it's the better buy in 2023.
The 2024 Model 3 will be lightly refreshed, which may include an updated exterior, some quality improvements, but also a loss of stalks on the steering column.
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What is it you find unsafe or inconvenient?
Most settings should be left on auto anyway... you have physical controls on the stalks and steering wheel for radio, cruise control/speed, voice commands, etc.
I can't really think of anything you NEED to interact with the touch screen for while driving at all.
....what?
The original post that spawned this was a complaint local charging wasn't nearly good enough- and lamenting the fact the nearest supercharger was in the next town.
I simply pointed out the factual reasons for that....and you keep trying to make up some other argument nobody is having by putting words in their mouth they never said.
I still see a lot of assumptions in the post above. I hope you have a great weekend!
Car purchase is the biggest depreciating purchase in your life. And most purchase a car 6-7 times an average over their lifetimes. Imagine a buying a car at 50k which just takes one around the town (which every car would, irrespective of the price) and then 10 years later that car is only 5k worth. In those 10 years someone spends 1200 per year on insurance, 500 per year on maintenance and whatever on repairs and gas in general. The total cost of ownership of car is about 60k plus gas cost based on the amount of driving. That is 6k per year just to own the vehicle (or $500 per month).
1)Buy used, 2)drive it til its a total money pit (and by that I mean at *least* 2K a year in repairs! Maybe more!)
A friend recently traded in a 7 year old car that was a "money pit"... Because it needed $1200 in repairs. The first repairs it needed in over 3 years.
I asked him "add $1200 to your resale value, or trade in value, and how much of a car do you think you can get? You have a perfectly good car right here that you *know* isn't a lemon, know has been well maintained, etc. Spend $1200 on it today and you'll be way ahead of any car purchase you could ever make"
If you have a paid off car and spend less than ~$1500/yr outside of consumables, you are so far ahead it's not even funny!
You are turning it into an argument which no one is interested in hearing
I still see a lot of assumptions in the post above. I hope you have a great weekend!
You too, I'd also suggest getting an eye exam if you can spare the time!
Most settings should be left on auto anyway... you have physical controls on the stalks and steering wheel for radio, cruise control/speed, voice commands, etc.
I can't really think of anything you NEED to interact with the touch screen for while driving at all.
We spent decades designing good controls that could be operated with minimal glances.
Touchscreens have been proven time and again to require excessive eyes-off-road time.
Most settings should be left on auto anyway... you have physical controls on the stalks and steering wheel for radio, cruise control/speed, voice commands, etc.
I can't really think of anything you NEED to interact with the touch screen for while driving at all.
And even when parked, trunk release, hood release, etc, all hidden.
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