Hyundai is offering the
2023 Hyundai IONIQ 5 Electric Vehicle from
$41,450 with
24, 36 or 48-Month Financing starting as low as
0.99% APR and
$0 Down Payment for very well-qualified buyers when purchased between 6/14/2023 through 7/5/2023.
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- Note: Pricing and availability will vary depending on your selected options and available inventory.
Limited-Time Special Financing Options:
- 0.99% APR (up to 36 months) at $28 per $1,000 financed for qualified buyers.
- 0.99% APR (up to 48 months) at $21 per $1,000 financed for qualified buyers.
- Must be financed through Hyundai Motor Finance (HMF). Tax, title and license extra.
- See your participating Hyundai dealer (dealership locator) for more details.
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On a related note, the NHTSA just opened an investigation into the Ioniq5 due to reports that some Ioniqs are losing power while being driven. Not a full recall as of yet but enough complaints, around 30, to warrant a closer look. https://www.caranddrive
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The Hyundai in this thread sells about 2000 cars a month in the US.
Teslas Model Y, for example, the best selling car is the world, sells over 27,000 cars a month in the US.
This car came out in 2021.
Tesla was steadily raising prices throughout 2022.
Teslas price cuts in 2023 are reflective of:
Vastly increased production of Teslas (avg 50% YoY growth for a decade now) so economies of scale lower their costs quite a bit- hence why they continue to have record profit margins even when cutting prices.
and
Higher interest rates slowing car sales in general
it certainly has an inferior charging network, that's objectively provable- but it HAS one.
The tax credit applied for more cars the first few months- it now applies to less
And it never and still does not apply to buying Hyundais.
It does apply to all EVs that are leased.
But it always did since the credit started so noting changed there
So literally nothing you wrote reflects reality.
I went through exactly this with Lexus. My local dealer didn't want to cover something-- I called Lexus directly and they handled it.
If they hadn't I could have simply gone to a different dealer- since they're independently owned and operated but the new car warranty is valid at any of them.
And if that didn't work I could've gone to the state attorney general to enforce the warranty.
And if that didn't work I could've gone to small claims court or to the FTC.
There's like 6 layers of further recourse if one local dealer won't help you.
Shame you were, as you now admit, unaware of any of this... a few minutes googling enforcement of new car warranty would've saved you a ton of $ it seems.
And again, the SAME rules and laws apply to all brands of cars so there's nothing that would impact the warranty claims rate of one versus the other in any of this.
The Hyundai in this thread sells about 2000 cars a month in the US.
Teslas Model Y, for example, the best selling car is the world, sells over 27,000 cars a month in the US.
This car came out in 2021.
Tesla was steadily raising prices throughout 2022.
Teslas price cuts in 2023 are reflective of:
Vastly increased production of Teslas (avg 50% YoY growth for a decade now) so economies of scale lower their costs quite a bit- hence why they continue to have record profit margins even when cutting prices.
and
Higher interest rates slowing car sales in general
I can't recall anybody actually making this claim in the thread- so you appear to be building a strawman here.
it certainly has an inferior charging network, that's objectively provable- but it HAS one.
This again is grossly, factually, wrong.
The tax credit applied for more cars the first few months- it now applies to less
And it never and still does not apply to buying Hyundais.
It does apply to all EVs that are leased.
But it always did since the credit started so noting changed there
So literally nothing you wrote reflects reality.
It appears your experience was just that you didn't understand how to get this taken care of.
Thanks for confirming!
Of course you can.
I went through exactly this with Lexus. My local dealer didn't want to cover something-- I called Lexus directly and they handled it.
If they hadn't I could have simply gone to a different dealer- since they're independently owned and operated but the new car warranty is valid at any of them.
And if that didn't work I could've gone to the state attorney general to enforce the warranty.
And if that didn't work I could've gone to small claims court or to the FTC.
There's like 6 layers of further recourse if one local dealer won't help you.
Shame you were, as you now admit, unaware of any of this... a few minutes googling enforcement of new car warranty would've saved you a ton of $ it seems.
And again, the SAME rules and laws apply to all brands of cars so there's nothing that would impact the warranty claims rate of one versus the other in any of this.
I went to 3 dealers and paid 1000+ worth of diagnostics for something I discovered due to my meticulous maintenance . It seems you make too many assumptions. I did contact Toyota who asked me to take a walk. If I went to court they would have 1+ yr of diagnostics with 1-2k + money before accepting it. Again making assumptions about me. It just seems you don't have personal experience using warranty.
Will say this again - warranty comparison is not apples to apples. Tesla is no baseline in warranty.
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Why is that?
In fact I specifically cited the opposite of the second one happening, to me, that "personal experience" you always want to harp on- with an ICE vehicle.
I didn't realize Bill Gates had an account here!
Sounds like there's a lot more to the story you're either not telling us, or you didn't understand.
And since you already admitted you didn't understand a lot about warranty stuff or the law the second seems more likely... could be both I guess?
Small claims court doesn't take a year, nor cost thousands of dollars. In most places it's under $100 to file suit and the case is resolved in under a month.
Neither does calling the state attorney general or the FTC cost you anything but a phone call.
SPEAKING OF--
You just wrote-
But wait... LAST post you said you can't do that...
(even though you can of course do that- and as soon as I mentioned I did so you changed your story to claim YOU did too right after telling us it's not possible)
If you're gonna make up nonsense at least get the nonsense story consistent first maybe?
Why is that?
Neither of those is remotely true.
In fact I specifically cited the opposite of the second one happening, to me, that "personal experience" you always want to harp on- with an ICE vehicle.
One phone call isn't worth your time to save $5,000?
I didn't realize Bill Gates had an account here!
If the car is under warranty you ought not have paid anything at all.
Sounds like there's a lot more to the story you're either not telling us, or you didn't understand.
And since you already admitted you didn't understand a lot about warranty stuff or the law the second seems more likely... could be both I guess?
....what?
Small claims court doesn't take a year, nor cost thousands of dollars. In most places it's under $100 to file suit and the case is resolved in under a month.
Neither does calling the state attorney general or the FTC cost you anything but a phone call.
I literally cited one in the post you are replying to debunk your "you can't call the car maker" claim.
SPEAKING OF--
You just wrote-
But wait... LAST post you said you can't do that...
Man, even you can't agree with you!
(even though you can of course do that- and as soon as I mentioned I did so you changed your story to claim YOU did too right after telling us it's not possible)
If you're gonna make up nonsense at least get the nonsense story consistent first maybe?
I understand warranty or laws. I said they know more than me. They can prove more things in court than me. Eg. My friend had an oil consumption issue which was rejected. . They can say all cars burn oil and since check engine light is not on, you are all good.
If you are discounting others' opinion.... YOU WIN 😜
I hope you are happy with your Tesla and warranty. Not sure why you are hijacking some thread and not trusting others experience.
I called, pointed out there's something the local dealer did not want to cover that the warranty said they should- Lexus agreed, called the dealer on my behalf, and they took care of it.
one phone call and done.
Exactly the thing you keep insisting is impossible, yet actually happened.
Then you change the excuse to-
Your original story was they wouldn't cover something that should have been covered. If that was true they could NOT prove otherwise.
So again- you keep changing your story every time you get caught saying something contradicted by facts.
Now you appear to have moved the story to "Well I didn't go to court because they actually had proof I was wrong"
BTW I'm not the one hijackings anything.... I just cited factual warranty claims rates between car makers-- that was it.
You then came in with your tall tales about how nobody actually honors car warranties and there's nothing anyone can do about it.... (which even if it WERE true STILL wouldn't change what I posted since you claim it's true across all brands- so my stats would STILL be accurate for comparison!)
Protip- If you find yourself in a hole-- stop digging.
I called, pointed out there's something the local dealer did not want to cover that the warranty said they should- Lexus agreed, called the dealer on my behalf, and they took care of it.
one phone call and done.
Exactly the thing you keep insisting is impossible, yet actually happened.
Again you can't keep your own story straight- you a few posts ago-
So after admitting you didn't know enough to fight it, you change your story to claiming you DO know this stuff?
Then you change the excuse to-
I mean... if they can prove them then the denial of the claim was valid.
Your original story was they wouldn't cover something that should have been covered. If that was true they could NOT prove otherwise.
So again- you keep changing your story every time you get caught saying something contradicted by facts.
Now you appear to have moved the story to "Well I didn't go to court because they actually had proof I was wrong"
BTW I'm not the one hijackings anything.... I just cited factual warranty claims rates between car makers-- that was it.
You then came in with your tall tales about how nobody actually honors car warranties and there's nothing anyone can do about it.... (which even if it WERE true STILL wouldn't change what I posted since you claim it's true across all brands- so my stats would STILL be accurate for comparison!)
Protip- If you find yourself in a hole-- stop digging.
On top of that you laugh at others opinions. Hopefully you will learn to respect others at some point. Have a great weekend ✌️
The issue is that most of the dealers around me automatically put on the add-on packages. They "treat" the car and do other things automatically to every car coming on their lot. This way they "can't" remove the add-ons because they've already provided the "service" and parts. It's scummy. The best thing to do is not support these dealers but when the only Toyota, Honda, Kia, Ford, Hyundai, and GM dealers in a city all do it, it's difficult to buy a car you want. Some of us are willing to travel a considerable distance to avoid this but for me, it requires going at least 2+ hours away, and I know many people who are not willing or able to do that. This means they are stuck.
There are some dealers around me not doing that but they are now in the minority. I think the Subaru dealer in my city doesn't play those games but that's just hearsay and I haven't talked with them myself yet.
It's high time this whole industry was fixed. Some of the car manufacturers are trying to fix it.
Teslas Model Y, for example, the best selling car is the world, sells over 27,000 cars a month in the US.
You sure about that?
That said, with EVs I wonder if leasing isn't better, at least for now. Replacing batteries in say 5 yrs again gonna be cheap. But after a 3 yr lease the technology will be noticeably improved.
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You sure about that?
Of course, since everything I wrote is well documented fact.
A better question is why you're not sure.
Citation for Model Y being the best selling car in the world:
https://cleantechnica.c
https://insideevs.com/news/672690...ehicle-us/
Citation for Hyundai only selling about 2000 of this car a month in the US:
https://carfigures.com/us-market-...ai/ioniq-5
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