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Podium rules and discussion thread

rayzac 26,612 2,197 November 5, 2009 at 09:47 AM
What is The Podium?

The purpose of The Podium is to provide a community where controversial topics can be discussed in an environment that is conducive to open conversation. Everyone has an opinion and should be able to share it without fear of attack or reprisal. These discussions tend to get heated so the below guidelines and rules are strictly enforced so we can maintain a forum where everyone feels comfortable contributing.

How do we maintain this environment of open conversation?

Some rules have been put in place below as a guideline to follow. It is impossible to list every possible infraction so please remember this is just a guideline and will be updated as needed. Moderators will remove posts that go against the above stated purpose even if not specifically mentioned in the below rules. If you question why a post is removed, private message (PM) a moderator. Do not make a post asking why.

Well thought out posts encourage a back-and-forth discussion. Based on previous experiences, we have found that members who continually criticize the opinions of others but rarely share their own side tend to kill off discussions. Also, members who post statements as facts that are questionable and/or not widely known and are unable to or unwilling to back it up with links or other evidence tend to divert from true debate. With that in mind, the moderators reserve the right to remove members who we believe have a negative impact on the community as a whole. This decision will be based on a consensus of the moderators.

When a debate topic is presented, members are expected to remain on topic. Discussions do tend to go into various tangents and as long as there is a clear path of discussion that lead there, it will be allowed. However, something clearly off topic will be removed.

What makes a good post?

This is a place of opinions and not everyone will share the same opinion. To help stimulate discussion, when you post an opinion, we encourage you to include facts or experiences that enforce your opinion and if needed, back the facts up with links or evidence. If you post an article as a reply to an existing thread, we also encourage you to state the reason you are posting this if it is not evident and what your thoughts are on the subject.

When starting a new thread, the title must follow the below rules and fit into the overall purpose of the podium. All commentary should be kept inside the thread. If using an article to begin a thread, the title of the article should be used. The exception to this would be if a debate topic is being presented and the article is just being used as ancillary information.

What should be avoided in posts?

Since many of the rules below tend to be subjective, it is advisable to keep your posts away from any gray areas where a moderator decision will need to be made. Some examples include:
  • Calling out other members by name when not directly replying to them
  • Making blanket statements that are not proven and based on opinions
  • Using nicknames for other members unless they have approved it
  • Ganging up on other members
What are the rules?

The following list is presented to be used as a guideline. It is impossible to list every rule so please use common sense when posting. The moderators reserve the right to delete any post the breaks one of the below rules or goes against the intent of SlickDeals and the Podium. If you find one of your posts was removed, please send a PM to one of the moderators of the podium found at the bottom or the Podium forum list or by clicking here. Do not create a "why was my post deleted" thread.

1. No personal attacks are allowed. Personal attacks will be deleted. Controversial conversations always tend to get heated, so in order to enjoy the debates, personal attacks will NOT be tolerated. Personal attacks are considered to be, not not limited to, name calling, labeling (I.E. racist, bigot, etc), or negative comments directed at another member. This can also include the use of certain images and smileys such as crazy and sheep. Whether you call someone a sheep directly or imply it with the graphic, it is still an attack. In addition, if you see someone breaking a rule, use the mod alert button and please include comments as to what you think is the rule being broken if it is not clearly obvious. Calling someone a troll or other such term will get you a warning, so use the mod alert button instead.

2. Use common sense when posting. The same type of rules in the lounge apply to The Podium. No nudity, no heavy profanity (which is filtered anyway), no obscene photographs or pictures.

3. No complaining about politics in The Podium. That is what it is for. If you don't want to get involved in political debates, then feel free to leave The Podium and join any other forum on the site.

4. (REVISED) From now on, no trolling via thread titles, include a link to the article, and your take (your own summary if you choose). Posts SHOULD NOT INCLUDE LARGE BLOCKS OF TEXT FROM THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE. You can still quote from the article, but only use what you need to make your point (you guys are kind of doing this now by bolding particular parts- just quote what you might otherwise have bolded). Also, please err on the side of under-quoting.

5. Please refrain from posting content from chain emails. Most chain emails have been proven to be untrue in some form or fashion, and they are simply not good sources for topics of debate. If for you some reason you just feel that you have to post this kind of stuff, please verify the contents with www.breakthechain.org [breakthechain.org] or www.snopes.com [snopes.com]. If proven untrue, just don't post it. Chain emails that are proven untrue will be deleted.

6. No spamming of the message boards. Spamming includes, but is not limited to, starting several new threads on the same topic and bumping several threads on similar subjects to the front page. If similar threads are active at the same time, one of the threads will be left open to continue discussions and all others will be closed. In addition, posting links to videos or pictures as a joke and/or insult will be considered spam. Posts that are clearly off topic in debate threads are also considered spam.

7. No post-and-run. A post-and-run is someone who will continually starts threads without offering their own thoughts or opinions or does not stick around to participate in the thread. The keyword is continually. We do not require opinions on every article, but it is recommended, but if this becomes an apparent trend, it will be stopped.

8. No trolling. There have been lengthy discussions on what is trolling. The official definition that we use is seen here. [wikipedia.org]. You can also see a short list here of what we consider trolling.

9. Use the proper category icon when starting a new thread. News should be used for threads without a clear debate topic. Debate threads require a clear debate topic and should remain on topic as much as possible as stated above. Going purposefully off topic in a debate thread will be seen as spamming.

The purpose of The Podium is to allow anyone and everyone to voice their opinions on controversial topics, without fear of censorship. If you have something to say, say it! If you have questions or need clarification on any of the above rules, or simply wish to ask if a post is OK before you post it, please PM a moderator. So now that you are here, why not step up to The Podium?!

The SlickDeals.net mod team.
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Yet somehow asking a question that's not a good discussion point gets less responses than an article with no discussion point. I think it might help kill these "nothing more to say here" threads quicker. Which I think is a good thing.
True on both points. I think what we're seeing here is the 'lounge effect' where a news thread is posted and people jump in and add their 2 cents and some quarrel is generated by that process. It's important that TP remember that it is not the lounge.

Perhaps part of our problem is that the lounge has become less hospitable to news items? IDK, as I don't frequent that forum.
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True on both points. I think what we're seeing here is the 'lounge effect' where a news thread is posted and people jump in and add their 2 cents and some quarrel is generated by that process. It's important that TP remember that it is not the lounge.

Perhaps part of our problem is that the lounge has become less hospitable to news items? IDK, as I don't frequent that forum.
I think its more that, with a number of exceptions, Lounge posters and Podium posters aren't the same people. So if something tragic happens, even if there is nothing really political to say about it, Podium posters feel "obligated" to create an OP about it. Like everything that's on the national news should have a thread here.
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If only the 24-hour news channels would have this debate we might go back to when news was actually news and not just gossip.
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I think I'm getting over any tolerance I had for "So and so said this crazy thing" threads.

Who's with me?
So the "Sarah Palin said this crazy thing" threads will no longer be allowed?

I'm with you on that.
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So the "Sarah Palin said this crazy thing" threads will no longer be allowed?

I'm with you on that.
Do any exist?
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Do any exist?
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False mod alerting is a warnable offense. Just because you may not like a topic does not mean you are allowed to mod alert it.
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False mod alerting is a warnable offense. Just because you may not like a topic does not mean you are allowed to mod alert it.
Ummm, care to add any parameters to that ?

I mean, someone sees something they feel to be in violation of the rules, they mod alert it (as instructed btw).

You look at it and you disagree with their contention.

Did this now become a case of "false mod alerting" as they mod alerted something that you determined wasn't a violation of the rules ?
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Ummm, care to add any parameters to that ?

I mean, someone sees something they feel to be in violation of the rules, they mod alert it (as instructed btw).

You look at it and you disagree with their contention.

Did this now become a case of "false mod alerting" as they mod alerted something that you determined wasn't a violation of the rules ?
It is for those cases which are clearly not against the rules and someone just mod alerts something just because they do not like it.

If there is no rule against it, do not mod alert it.
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I think I'm getting over any tolerance I had for "So and so said this crazy thing" threads.
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Too much moderating altogether.
Can I mod alert this thread?
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Too much moderating altogether.
Can I mod alert this thread?

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Too much moderating altogether.
Can I mod alert this thread?
You may, but would you rather we take action on your alert, or leave it be? Confused
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You may, but would you rather we take action on your alert, or leave it be? Confused
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Ummm, Mods, might I inquire as to where the Nancy Pelosi says something stupid thread went ???
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