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Here is my thoughts on the TLC show--this is a post I copied from my NON-coupon--NO DEALS blog.

"UGH. NOT good at all. I have been couponing YEARS before this had become a fad/popular thing to do. It is already getting hard enough–I see no need to broadcast this info across the whole nation. The owners of all these couponing blogs/websites always want to broadcast and get as many people as they can to sign up on their blog. I had a coupon friend online and I told her how I think all this “recruiting” will bring extreme couponing to a screeching halt eventually. The difference between when I started couponing to now is already vastly different. Stores have put policies into place making it more difficult for couponers. For the first time ever since couponing P&G has new wording on their coupons “limit 4 like coupons per customer.” It just really blows because there the more people that get into couponing, the more fraud there is too. I have seen blatant examples of blog owners actually tellling people how to de-code the bar codes so they can get around purchasing what the coupon says to purchase. Our grocery stores head cashier told us about this lady who photocopied a coupon and she made a whole stack of them. At RA they posted that only 5/25 coupon is allowed per customer per month because someone supposedly tampered with their coupon. I could give many more examples. And, not too sound like a bitch but all these newbies that have crawled out of the woodwork—they just make more work for me. Yes, I was a newbie once too–BUT, I took it upon myself to READ the threads, and learn the store policies etc etc. It seems all these dumb newbies want everything spoon fed to them–thinking for themselves I guess is too much to ask. They ask the SAME questions over and over and OVER again–the answers are there—they just need to READ.

I’m sure the blog/website owners and those profiting from broadcasting about extreme couponing are happy to have more money coming in. Some already make huge bucks—enough to constantly offer crazy giveaways. But I feel like they are cutting off their nose despite their face. I just don’t think it is very smart to go and advertise about what used to be a secret underground world of extreme couponing. Yep, as you can see–I’m NOT happy about this TLC show."

On top of all this recruiting--I also think couponing will come to an end as we know it because everything is going digital. I found out the Detroit free press has decided NOT to carry red plum inserts anymore outside their tri county delivery area. When I called red plum and the DFP, I was told they want customers to start printing their own coupons instead of getting inserts.

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Last Edited by RETSBAR April 24, 2011 at 09:20 AM
TLC's new couponing GAME SHOW features people trying to get the most products for the littlest amount of money. It is not a couponing-instruction show.

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/12/13/tlc-extreme-couponing-supermarket-sweep/

http://press.discovery.com/us/tlc/programs/extreme-couponing/

Quote from dealznstealz View Post :
Here's the clip of the Extreme Couponing (ABC) describing them as OCD..gambler's...hoader's.
LINK [go.com]

ET Tonight video LINK [zimbio.com]

TLC Added on 1/19 to YouTube
Extreme Couponing- Nathan's Six-Figure Stockpile [youtube.com]
Extreme Couponing- Amanda's Coupon Game Day Plan [youtube.com]
Extreme Couponing- Dumpster Diving for Coupons [youtube.com]

Just remember what ever precedent is set by this show goes out the window with one new coupon policy put in place by your store. The Southeast region for Kroger is already seeing some store coupon policies changed to limit of 2 like coupons over night. I was told this by Kroger Corporate under the discretion of the District Manger's due to "shelf clearing" happening in their stores.

j'aime kirlew's original youtube/target videos:

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http://s1097.photobucket.com/albu...burg%20MD/

http://s1097.photobucket.com/albu...Bonphotos/

Dailymotion

http://www.dailymotion.com/releva...e%20kirlew

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both videos are now on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AfZh_CrYes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f014iZzowDc

spread the links!
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ok, new links:
download 1 [hotfile.com]
download 2 [hotfile.com]
these won't play in the browser and are in .flv format. you might need to download the codecs (if they aren't on your computer) or i suggest vlc media player [videolan.org] or cnet link [cnet.com]

Links for updates from News reports

4/6 Article by Jill Cataldo
"TLC's Extreme Couponing raising controversy as new season approaches"
http://www.jillcataldo.com/node/16170

4/8 Article by Jill Cataldo
"Was coupon fraud shown on TLC's Extreme Couponing?"
http://www.jillcataldo.com/node/16258

4/14 news report by Sandra Gonzalez with Entertainment Weekly
TLC 'looking into' allegations of coupon fraud on 'Extreme Couponing'
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/04/14...couponing/
Thanks to skincarekathy for posting the link

4/15 Article on the Consumerist By Laura Northrup
Extreme Couponing: Fraud Edition
http://consumerist.com/2011/04/me...olice.html
Thanks Jill Cataldo for posting the link

4/15 Kate Torgovnick from The Frisky
An “Extreme Couponing” Scandal
http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246...g-scandal/

4/15/11 Article NY Post
Xtreme Coupon Scam?
http://www.nypost.com/p/entertain...&FEEDNAME=

4/16/11 Article Oklahoma City Examiner
Did Jaime Kirlew commit fraud on 'Extreme Couponing?' You be the judge!
http://www.examiner.com/tv-in-okl...-the-judge

4/24 article in Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/enter...feedburner
Thanks SlickCate for posting the link


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Extreme couponing! How to get $1,100 of merchandise for $40 [msn.com] Today Show

Discounting coupon rules might get you in trouble [chicagotribune.com]

Extreme Couponing: Showcase for Frugal Geniuses or Crazed Hoarders? [nymag.com]

'Extreme Couponing' gone too far? Expert offers tips on how to save big without obsessing [nydailynews.com]




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Bought a paper from a "machine" today...NO p&g in any of the ten or so papers left in there.....they were missing the entire ad section.
I won't buy a paper from a machine anymore. Got burned once and that's what I remember--even though I bought papers from machines many times before that.
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My favourite cashier at my CVS told me of this one woman who came in trying to redeem $179 worth of ECBs in one transaction.........and, NONE of them would scan, they all beeped!! She told them there was a problem with her card and she had talked to corporate about it and they had told her to tell the store it was okay to accept them despite the beeping. Cashier said the woman was quite pushy and the poor shift supervisor gave in to her demands and overrode all the ECBs! Quite convenient that she came in late at night when corporate was closed and they couldn't verify her story! Mad Hope the SS doesn't get in troubleFrown
I wonder if they were for other cards than the one she was using?
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When you coupon you learn that there are an awful lot of really idiotic people in the world.
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I wonder if they were for other cards than the one she was using?
That was my first thought:she's been trash can diving for receipts and ecbs and then they beep since none match her card....which we all know from ages ago. She's got CVS mixed up with RA which still hasn't put that restriction on UPs last I checked....

I seriously think stores need to get their crap together. To take fraudulent coupons, when you know they are fake, just to appease the customer who gives you crap and then tighten the belt on everyone who uses coupons is a total bunch of crap. My one DM tried to pass that garbage off on me after they took in $300 in Tide IPs one week. Almost $1,000 in his stores in total. That was the excuse for not honoring the free Bayer USB coupon, by the AM because it was "for too much off" and "they never give away free meters" and "he'd rather them turn me down instead of take the hit" even if it didn't look fake like the Tide did...

...needless to say we had an intense discussion about district lines and stores I shop and how easy it would be for me to condense my shopping to the stores not in his district and that I could put in plenty of reports of their abuse instead for the few times I shopped there...since I don't use fake looking coupons (let alone fake ones) and get hassled mroe than the people who were usingfake coupons.
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I wonder if they were for other cards than the one she was using?
Probably. I was also thinking something along those lines. Perhaps she had 10 cards or so and got tired of managing them all (one can hope, haha!) and just wanted to use up all the ecbs from those cards in one go. Or, like purple said, she was diving in the trash for other people's ecbs and wanted to use them!LMAO It astounds me the ways that people can come up with to cheat the system! shake head
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......needless to say we had an intense discussion about district lines and stores I shop and how easy it would be for me to condense my shopping to the stores not in his district and that I could put in plenty of reports of their abuse instead for the few times I shopped there...since I don't use fake looking coupons (let alone fake ones) and get hassled mroe than the people who were usingfake coupons.
The sort of funny/ not funny thing about all this is, until this show aired, it was an uphill battle for a lot of people to use legitimate qs - never mind try and pull some of the crap that is going on now. We have a whole rant thread for people who had problems trying to use qs/ ECBs/ CRTs/ RRs/ etc. and got nothing but frustration and grief:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=787335

Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot, and anything goes. Sad how people who tried to do things the right way got shot down, while the TLC inspired scammers get away scott free.

All this nonsense can only end badly for all of us. Mad
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Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot, and anything goes. Sad how people who tried to do things the right way got shot down, while the TLC inspired scammers get away scott free.
Exactly. Stores seem to be focusing on the wrong things here. People who are doing the right thing get their chops busted while morons with fake coupons who aren't afraid to rant and rave to the manager get their coupons pushed through.
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....... IF all of us vets can politely back the cashier when newbies look for support from behind then a lot of newbies will learn the correct way or vanish!
I've had more than one cashier thank for me for this. They're totally backed into a corner. I saw one lady try to argue her way into getting a $10 "automatic coupon" from Wags because the ad "said it's like paying 4.99" instead of 14.99 Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) Cashier was so frazzled so I opened my ad and said "Oh I'm sorry.... do you mean this? I think it says "after the RR"...." so she left all mad. Rather she be mad at me (stranger) than hold the line for another 20 minutes... I've got places to go, n00b!!!!!

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.....DO ONE TRANNY AT A TIME, then move to the back of the line. If there is a person waiting behind you with one or two items, let them go ahead of you.

Being a line hog, not having your sh!t together, using counterfeit qs, and generally making life miserable for the store employees is a sure way to get yourself kicked out of the store. In fact the store does have the right to ban you for inappropriate behavior!
You know, a cashier literally said "wow, really? thanks!!!" when I saw someone come up behind me and I told her if I could just leave my 2 items on the counter while I moved to the back of the line. Then the 20-yr old guy standing in line behind me said "Wow, you must be like the nicest coupon lady ever...." I guess courtesy is now the exception.... Mad
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I've had more than one cashier thank for me for this. They're totally backed into a corner. I saw one lady try to argue her way into getting a $10 "automatic coupon" from Wags because the ad "said it's like paying 4.99" instead of 14.99 Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) Cashier was so frazzled so I opened my ad and said "Oh I'm sorry.... do you mean this? I think it says "after the RR"...." so she left all mad. Rather she be mad at me (stranger) than hold the line for another 20 minutes... I've got places to go, n00b!!!!!
I've seen this as well. One day this old hag at RA b*tched and b*tched at a very nice cashier because Old Spice body wash wasn't outright free at the register. They tried to explain +UP to her and she wouldn't listen. She was ranting and raving that she was going to sue them for false advertising and she was going to have her lawyer investigate. LMAO Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Some people just lack any common sense whatsoever. Why would a store just give you something outright free? Yes, sometimes they do that kinds of stuff on Black Friday or when you buy some other product. However, the great majority of the time people are expected to purchase something to get something free.

When you coupon you learn that there are an awful lot of really idiotic people in the world. laugh out loud
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Exactly. Stores seem to be focusing on the wrong things here. People who are doing the right thing get their chops busted while morons with fake coupons who aren't afraid to rant and rave to the manager get their coupons pushed through.
Definitely. I managed to convince both him and the SM (who admits to not having a home computer or knowing anything about printed coupons, including RA ones) of my "problem store" I knew way more than they did and was obviously not pulling crap...but when he told me they lost $1k in a week over printed Tide coupons? P&G never make printables I tell him. Duh. And for that much off, as I believe it was $5 or $9. They've have the hologram on them spiffy as can be, double sided, etc. The cashier at the one store will hardly take a $1 coupon on a $1 item but took 3-5 of these in each transaction the person did. WTH? Did he hold a gun to her head? Threaten her knitting circle? A group cleared the freaking shelves of Tide at the stores and nobody wondered why the "regular" couponers weren't buying the same Tide or asking for a RC? Just no sense to it and its getting old.
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I've seen this as well. One day this old hag at RA b*tched and b*tched at a very nice cashier because Old Spice body wash wasn't outright free at the register. They tried to explain +UP to her and she wouldn't listen. She was ranting and raving that she was going to sue them for false advertising and she was going to have her lawyer investigate. LMAO Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)

Some people just lack any common sense whatsoever. Why would a store just give you something outright free? Yes, sometimes they do that kinds of stuff on Black Friday or when you buy some other product. However, the great majority of the time people are expected to purchase something to get something free.

When you coupon you learn that there are an awful lot of really idiotic people in the world. laugh out loud
Similar thing happened here...when the Precise was advertised for $5 less the $5 MQ = free, our local inserts didn't have the $5 MQ, so this old lady was like, can this be free with the ad because I don't see the MQ in the paper. This lady doesn't seem to do all the deals, but she's there at RA at 8am when they open. Usually I see her just buying the "sale" stuff, not necessarily the UP rewards stuff. But I don't stare at her order...

what really got me was, a couple weeks later I saw her take 3 newspapers off the rack, put them in her cart, then walk around the store, getting some items, then she sat down by the pharmacy area, proceeded to cut coupons out from the newspaper....then we both ended up at the register at the same time, I saw her put the 3 papers back on the rack without ever purchasing them, but after cutting q's from them. I was like wtf?
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Similar thing happened here...when the Precise was advertised for $5 less the $5 MQ = free, our local inserts didn't have the $5 MQ, so this old lady was like, can this be free with the ad because I don't see the MQ in the paper. This lady doesn't seem to do all the deals, but she's there at RA at 8am when they open. Usually I see her just buying the "sale" stuff, not necessarily the UP rewards stuff. But I don't stare at her order...

what really got me was, a couple weeks later I saw her take 3 newspapers off the rack, put them in her cart, then walk around the store, getting some items, then she sat down by the pharmacy area, proceeded to cut coupons out from the newspaper....then we both ended up at the register at the same time, I saw her put the 3 papers back on the rack without ever purchasing them, but after cutting q's from them. I was like wtf?
Hey now, the ad didn't say you had to buy the paper to use the coupons...duh.
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Geez..........she must be at my store. A couple of weeks ago I purchased a paper and many of the coupons had already been chopped out! It's bad enough you have to check every paper, but to check every page of each insert, ridiculous!
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All this nonsense can only end badly for all of us. Mad
Nonsense doesn't come from TLC. It just increases the numbers of people taking advantage. When the numbers are large they notice. Remember people here stacking $5 off $20 plus $4 off $20 and $3 off $15 coupons at CVS on the same $20 order. CVS had to put a stop to that without EC being involved.

This has already happened outside the grocery/drugstore area. There used to be a lot better deals and strategies in electronics etc. at places like Staples but they kept cracking down because everyone was doing it. There are a lot fewer deals now. Price mistakes used to get shipped. Not anymore, too many people doing it.
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............what really got me was, a couple weeks later I saw her take 3 newspapers off the rack, put them in her cart, then walk around the store, getting some items, then she sat down by the pharmacy area, proceeded to cut coupons out from the newspaper....then we both ended up at the register at the same time, I saw her put the 3 papers back on the rack without ever purchasing them, but after cutting q's from them. I was like wtf?
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The sort of funny/ not funny thing about all this is, until this show aired, it was an uphill battle for a lot of people to use legitimate qs - never mind try and pull some of the crap that is going on now. We have a whole rant thread for people who had problems trying to use qs/ ECBs/ CRTs/ RRs/ etc. and got nothing but frustration and grief:

http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=787335

Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot, and anything goes. Sad how people who tried to do things the right way got shot down, while the TLC inspired scammers get away scott free.

All this nonsense can only end badly for all of us. Mad
I agree and I hope this will end soon. Before it never bothered me that there where new couponers because they would soon find how hard it was and stop. With this bad economy and the TLC show showing people scamming and breaking store policies, it makes it hard to coupon at all, but I know I have to, so I can make ends meet.
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