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GUN: CZ-82 Czech 9x18 Makarov Pistol $199.99 Shipped

michalchik1 1,153 1,099 January 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM in Sporting Goods (2)
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Widener's [wideners.com] have a CZ-82 Czech 9x18 Makarov Pistol for $199.99+FS. Seems like a pretty good deal.


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Includes 2-12rd magazines, and holster (holster may vary in size, shape, material, and condition no guarantees on which holster you will receive). These pistols are in great shape showing only minor finish wear.

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That''s about what these normally sell for. Not a bad deal, but nothing special. Keep in mind, this will NOT shoot the 9mm rounds you can buy at Wal-Mart. Your typical 9mm is a 9mm Luger. This is a 9mm Makarov, and they are NOT compatible.
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keep the handgun deals coming!
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what will happen if you fire the luger out of this??
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Quote from blast3d View Post :
what will happen if you fire the luger out of this??


Im guessing that the 9x19 (9mm Luger) wont fit all the way into the chamber and if fired might have a blow out towards the back. If you buy this go to a local gun show and they should have ammo for this pistol.
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What's the metal thing with the loop above the pistol in the picture? Just curious.
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Quote from paulwall23 View Post :
What's the metal thing with the loop above the pistol in the picture? Just curious.
Cleaning rod.
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This is a pretty good deal on the CZ 82! Shipping is included and the last time I ordered a C&R pistol 2nd day air was at least $20. This is the most modern pistol to be listed as Curio and Relic by the BATF. I have 3 CZ 82's and love the 9x18 Makarov round. This pistol is reason enough to get your C&R license.
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Quote from captweedwacker View Post :
This is a pretty good deal on the CZ 82! Shipping is included and the last time I ordered a C&R pistol 2nd day air was at least $20. This is the most modern pistol to be listed as Curio and Relic by the BATF. I have 3 CZ 82's and love the 9x18 Makarov round. This pistol is reason enough to get your C&R license.
Agreed wholeheartedly. These are great pistols. This is the regular good price but with free shipping this is a great deal.

Love my C&R FFL.
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Quote from areakode View Post :
That''s about what these normally sell for. Not a bad deal, but nothing special. Keep in mind, this will NOT shoot the 9mm rounds you can buy at Wal-Mart. Your typical 9mm is a 9mm Luger. This is a 9mm Makarov, and they are NOT compatible.
I'll make it fit.

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what will happen if you fire the luger out of this??
It is closer to the .380 in size. Don't try that either, though.


9mm Makarov
Bullet diameter 9.27 mm (0.365 in)
Neck diameter 9.91 mm (0.390 in)
Base diameter 9.95 mm (0.392 in)
Rim diameter 9.95 mm (0.392 in)
Rim thickness 1.00 mm (0.039 in)
Case length 18.10 mm (0.713 in)
Overall length 25.00 mm (0.984 in)

.380 ACP
Bullet diameter .355 in (9.0 mm)
Neck diameter .373 in (9.5 mm)
Base diameter .374 in (9.5 mm)
Rim diameter .374 in (9.5 mm)
Rim thickness .045 in (1.1 mm)
Case length .680 in (17.3 mm)
Overall length .984 in (25.0 mm)
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seriously basic rule of gun safety....do NOT mix rounds unless the gun is specifically says it can take it. Just because the diameter fits, doesn't mean it should be put into the gun.

This question must be meant to start some kind of flame...

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anyone know a deal or a good gun using .22 auto handgun for self protection? I heard .22 is cheap and easy to shoot. Plus i am not looking for seriously dmg, just to protect myself at home only.

first gun !
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anyone know a deal or a good gun using .22 auto handgun for self protection? I heard .22 is cheap and easy to shoot. Plus i am not looking for seriously dmg, just to protect myself at home only.

first gun !

You've never shot a gun? I have a couple recommendations for you... but the first would be learn about guns. Go shooting at a range with a friend or go yourself and rent a gun and ask for help! Take whatever gun safety class you can find in your area. And please do NOT use a .22 in any make/model to defend yourself with.

While a .22 is better than nothing it has a critical problem- poor inherent reliability. A .22 (or any rimfire cartridge) is way less reliable than any centerfire cartridge. Even in a bolt action rifle or revolver they fail to go bang more than you'd like, in a semi-auto your problem is magnified immensely. A 9mm in a decently hefty pistol has very light recoil and is a much better option for self defense. It's the cheapest common pistol round but will cost about 9-10 times more than .22 ammo in my area. In a semi-auto pistol, it's also going to be 10x more reliable and way better at stopping someone You could also go with a small revolver in .357 or .38- ammo will be as much or more than 9mm. Revolver is simpler functioning, but a bit harder to shoot well for most people. Or if it's just for your home and you don't plan on carrying, get a shotgun. 12 gauge preferred but a 20 gauge is okay if recoil bothers you. All of those will cost more to run than a .22, but will work much better at stopping an attack (particularly the shotgun). What is your life worth?

In real life people don't fly back 8 feet and hit the ground when they get shot like on tv. They usually don't even know they've been shot at first if it's a pistol caliber. If they are behaving aggressively they often won't stop attacking you until a bodily system fails (shock from blood loss, trouble/pain breathing from lung hit, direct cns hit, etc). Basically they will keep charging unless the sight/sound of the gun frightens them and they react psycholgically (oh no, I've been shot!!). That doesn't happen often enough to count on it. That's why bigger caliber is better (as long as it's controllable). A couple shots of .22 may kill the guy... three days later, after he bludgeoned you and your family to death with your own gun.

One last thing- learn Cooper's 4 rules of gun safety and live them. Especially remember rule #4 in home defense situation. Any caliber big enough to reliably stop someone will also reliably fly through multiple layers of sheetrock. So always know what's behind your target, and try to plan on defensive scenarios beforehand so you don't end up shooting a loved one through a wall.
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Ranger2131,
I read your post and wanted to thank you!
You put a ton of great gun info into one reply!

I recently went shooting with a friend that has
Lots of handguns & rifles. Since then, I have been
Researching and gathering info in order to make best
Decision for weapons for my home. I know plenty of
People with excellent knowledge of firearms & firearm
Safety, including police officers & military folk...still it is
daunting putting all the pieces together.

If you know of courses, instructors that you would highly
Recommend in California (or Nevada) or have any other tips or links
Please post!

Thank you!
(Soon to be first gun owner, the right kind!)
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Your welcome! Unfortunately I can't help you with recommendations, I live in Texas.

BTW, don't get me wrong about a .22. Cheap to practice with and everyone should have one. Just plan on getting something else as well for serious defense. And actually a .22 in the head is quite lethal because it rarely exits. A fair # of people survive headshots with larger caliber handguns. .22 tends to bounce around and really do damage b/c it often doesn't have enough energy to break through the skull twice. Mob used it partly for this reason (also b/c it's quiet and attracts little attention). The problem is headshots aren't realistic in a defensive scenario, and again the reliability of it actually firing when you need it.

If you do get a handgun and want a .22 for practice, look into the walther p22, sig mosquito and the issc m22. I'd probably go with the last one just for price. All are about as similar as you'll get to your "real" handgun, whatever it is. Unless you get a glock- then you can buy a .22 conversion kit. You can shoot .22 out of it for practice then switch it back to bigger caliber for defense. A Ruger .22/45 and Ruger "Mark" series, along with Browning Buckmark, are also good .22 pistols. They're generally better made and you could hand 'em down to kids. But unlike the first three I mentioned they will be really nothing like your "real" gun as far as practice goes. Fun to shoot though. If you get a revolver, you can easily find a .22 revolver for practice that would be very similar to your "real" gun. If you want a semi-auto .22 rifle I'd look at a Marlin 795, Marlin 60, or Ruger 10/22. Either way, I say get at least one gun in .22 to play/learn with. Imo, if you aren't dead set on a handgun, you could get a Marlin 795 and a Mossberg Maverick 88 (shotgun) and be well set up for both home defense and cheap fun at the range for less than what one decent handgun would cost. By decent I mean Springfield XD, Glock, Sig, HK, CZ, S&W M&P series, S&W or Ruger revolver, etc. Though actually the handgun that started this very thread would be fine- only issue is spare parts, extra magazines, ammo availability (9x18 not common at Walmart), etc.

Have fun and I hope this helps.

EDIT- one last thing... if you aren't prepared to kill someone to defend yourself, I'd recommend not getting a gun for defense at all. Stick with dogs, alarms, pepper spray, etc. Though you could still get a gun just for fun at the range Smilie The thing with a gun for self defense is you have to be willing to use it quickly with zero hestitation. When you do that, you can't control whether the bad guy will survive or not. Trying to shoot someone in the leg, arm, etc. is another one of those made-for-tv things. It's is foolish, extremely unlikely to be successful, and still possibly lethal anyway if you do manage to somehow get lucky and hit their appendage. You aim for center mass and fire until they stop attacking.
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Last edited by ranger2131 January 31, 2011 at 04:00 AM.
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