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California Dreamin'—of Jobs in Texas

It wasn't your usual legislative hearing. A group of largely Republican California lawmakers and Democratic Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom traveled here last week to hear from businesses that have left their state to set up shop in Texas.

"We came to learn why they would pick up their roots and move in order to grow their businesses," says GOP Assemblyman Dan Logue, who organized the trip. "Why does Chief Executive magazine rate California the worst state for job and business growth and Texas the best state?"
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"I don't see this as a partisan issue," Mr. Newsom told reporters before the group met with Texas Republican Gov. Rick Perry. The former San Francisco mayor has many philosophical disagreements with Mr. Perry, but he admitted he was "sick and tired" of hearing about the governor's success luring businesses to Texas.
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Hours after the legislators met with Mr. Perry, another business, Fujitsu Frontech, announced that it is abandoning California. "It's the 70th business to leave this year," says California business relocation expert Joe Vranich. "That's an average of 4.7 per week, up from 3.9 a week last year." The Lone Star State was the top destination, with 14 of the 70 moving there.

Andy Puzder, the CEO of Hardee's Restaurants, was one of many witnesses to bemoan California's hostile regulatory climate. He said it takes six months to two years to secure permits to build a new Carl's Jr. restaurant in the Golden State, versus the six weeks it takes in Texas. California is also one of only three states that demands overtime pay after an eight-hour day, rather than after a 40-hour week. Such rules wreak havoc on flexible work schedules based on actual need. If there's a line out the door at a Carl's Jr. while employees are seen resting, it's because they aren't allowed to help: Break time is mandatory.

"You can't build in California, you can't manage in California and you have to pay a big tax," Mr. Puzder told the legislators. "In Texas, it's the opposite—which is why we're building 300 new stores there this year."
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Other states are even snatching away parts of California's entertainment industry. The Milken Institute, based in Santa Monica, Calif., reports that 36,000 entertainment jobs have left the state since 1997. The new film "Battle: Los Angeles," which is set in California, was filmed in Louisiana.
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California, by contrast, seems to constantly lose focus. Several Democrats who agreed to go on the Texas trip were pressured by public-employee unions to drop out—and many did. And just as Texas business leaders were testifying about how the state's tort reforms had improved job creation, word came of California's latest priority: On April 14, the state senate passed a bill mandating that all public school children learn the history of disabled and gay Americans.

One speaker from California shook his head in wonder: "You can have the most liberated lifestyle on the planet, but if you can't afford to put gas in your car or a roof over your head it's somewhat limited."

Seems that at least SOME people in California are getting it Smilie

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You didn't see anything even remotely close to my claim? Facepalm My claim came from YOUR LINK LMAO.



That wasn't even half way into the article that YOU posted.
And yet the population increased.

Births - Deaths + People Moving in - People Moving out = Net Population Increase/Decrease.

In this case it was an increase. So what if more people moved out than came in to the tune of a few thousand. The end result is that during that time the population increased so it was not a net loss.

Maybe we're talking about different things as all I was saying is that even with more people moving out than coming in the population still increased.
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And yet the population increased.

Births - Deaths + People Moving in - People Moving out = Net Population Increase/Decrease.

In this case it was an increase. So what if more people moved out than came in to the tune of a few thousand. The end result is that during that time the population increased so it was not a net loss.

Maybe we're talking about different things as all I was saying is that even with more people moving out than coming in the population still increased.
I think this thread was meant to be about the economic health of the state and a good indicator is the number of moving in vs moving out (which usually correlates with number of opportunities). The number of people popping out babies has nothing to do with it. In fact all states have seen a net increase in population from 2005 to 2011 so that fact alone tells you absolutely nothing about anything and is a worthless contribution to the conversation.
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I think this thread was meant to be about the economic health of the state and a good indicator is the number of moving in vs moving out (which usually correlates with number of opportunities). The number of people popping out babies has nothing to do with it. In fact all states have seen a net increase in population from 2005 to 2011 so that fact alone tells you absolutely nothing about anything and is a worthless contribution to the conversation.
So is talking about the past Thumbup

Simple fact is that you don't know why people are leaving. Could be because they're making more $ at the end of the day in other states, could be they don't like the climate (all the kinds), could be they can't afford the high cost of living.

If we're losing 10,000s of Zuckerbergs I'd be worried but if we're losing 10,000s of those living around the poverty line I'd be ecstatic. Has anyone ever done what the true and unbiased cost/gain is of the people moving out vs those coming in? Or is it just that someone knows someone who makes 6 figures and wants to move to TX to avoid paying taxes? I'm not gonna lie, I'm kind of in the latter group but TX sucks for what I want out of the environment I live in apart from the lower taxes. It's hot as shit in summer, humid a lot of the time, cold in winter, flat, etc.. At the end of the day it's not worth it for me to not be happy where I live and pay less in taxes so I stay put, for now.
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